"A surprise name in the list is that of Tyrur Sugar Ray which was injured in the Champion Stakes semi and was stated to be a non-runner for the Derby. But he came  through gallops and a veterinary examination and last year’s Derby finalist now leads the six-strong Conor Fahy team in the draw...."

from the R P

Just another Irish greyhound x file

plenty of them over last few months

wouldnt have minded 500/1 tsr

looks like being 124 entries...seems abit of a poor effort that?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cqojwjm8TVE

dont forget droopys jet was  ''injured''?  fook me

http://tpoireland.com/webcam/


Live stream for draw

20 heats,  16 with 5 qualify,  4 qualify from 4.

Vic in 3 and Jet in 4 same heat!

With only 120 dogs there were bound to be some high profile clashes. Puma and North Bound from favourable draws a cracker

20 heats,  16 with 5 qualify,  4 qualify from 4...i think its fair to say that most of the Madra wont be  flying on all cylinders.

nice to see the book percentage finally on the move. 

under 125 now. 

Lodgefield Turbo not on the betfair lists any longer yet still in the Derby.

What is that about?

STARS ON SHOW AS ETS IRISH DERBY COMMENCES




08/08/2013
Greyhound fans have a real midweek treat at Shelbourne Park this evening when the eagerly awaited ETS Irish Derby commences with ten quite absorbing heats to set up what promises to be a quite stellar classic. 


There will be a galaxy of stars in action tonight with defending champion Skywalker Puma the shining headliner and backed up by Shelbourne superstars Paradise Madison and Milldean Panther. But there are established stars and potential champions in each and every heat to make this absolutely compulsive viewing.

Skywalker Puma versus North Bound is a real mouth-watering clash in Heat 8 and Larry Dunne’s Slippery Robert must be a serious player also. However Frances O’Donnell reports that Puma is in great form following his heavy Champion Stakes fall and he should have the class to start from where he left off some eleven months ago.

Paradise Madison is made a banker bet in Heat 3. He was outstanding in winning the Champion Stakes final and should have come on further with that run under his belt. Ollie Bray is very happy with the dog and that’ll do for me. He can win from Airlie Dazzler and the sure-to-improve Sidaz Eagle.

Milldean Panther is a hugely interesting runner in Heat 7. This is one of the fastest greyhounds we have ever seen but he has had very bad injury problems and will be having his first race since December 1st. While he has trialled well there has been something missing and in the circumstances Cabra Buck gets the vote. Hopefully Milldean will progress and he could add a huge dimension to this classic.



A FANTASY BANKER

Isabels Boy will be favourite for the first heat and should lead all the way but Droopys Margo and Glenanore Dancer can run big races.

Jacksallstar has been withdrawn from Heat 2 and that should clear the way for Mall Brandy to win from the big finishing English racer Bouncy Bocko which is under the care of Liam Dowling.

John McGee’s Champion Stakes runner-up Jaxx On Fantasy has been a revelation recently and he looks banker material in Heat 4 where Rumble Titan, returning from injury, looks the main threat.

The Declan Byrne trained Oaks and Champion Stakes third Melodys Diamond can see off the Cesarewitch and Ladbrokes 600 winner Ringtown Snowy in Heat 5 with the latter returning from a lay-off.

Paul Sallis can have a flying start to his Irish campaign with Bold Three in Heat 6 and he can get the better of the flying bitch Tantallons Kay. Skywalker Star could be a second for Frances O’Donnell in Heat 9 but he’ll have to do everything right to beat the Paul Hennessy trained Jaytee Hellcat which could prove to be a real surprise packet in this classic.

Finally, Owen McKenna’s Airforce Diva is given a confident vote to win Heat 10 with Droopys Adler and the progressive El Flutter chasing her home.



YOUR DERBY HEAT FORMGUIDE



ISABELS CAN LEAD ALL THE WAY

Early pace could decide this in favour of ISABELS BOY which will be having his first run since his English campaign. He flies to the bend but will need a few lengths in hand down the back.

Droopys Margo is improving with each run following her injury problems and can be a major player but she will need to clear Glenanore Dancer to the bend. The latter is better than he has shown recently and has a big run in him. Hawaii Kinsale is a youngster with immense potential but he is inexperienced and has a terrible draw. Piercestown Lucy will be running on very strongly while Fridays Carroll is capable of challenging Isabels Boy for the early lead.

FORECAST: 1 ISABELS BOY; 2 Droopys Margo; 3 Glenanore Dancer

*****

BRANDY CAN SCORCH HOME

The absence of Jacksallstar (injured) should make this easier for MALL BRANDY which is a litter brother to Paradise Madison and also possesses excellent pace.

The change of seeding should suit and he will be hard to beat. English raider Bouncy Bocko, now with Liam Dowling, is well housed and will be flying from halfway. Kilgraney Tomson is another that is very strong from the half and was a very impressive winner of the Tipperary Cup. Big Johns Girl has useful form up north while Rockchase Reem is a noted slow starter but packs a huge finishing burst. A reserve will run.

HEAT 2: 1 MALL BRANDY; 2 Bouncy Bocko; 3 Kilgraney Tomson 

*****

MADISON CAN SHOW HIS CLASS

With three races under his belt, the latest a stunning Champion Stakes success, PARADISE MADISON should be approaching his very best form and that would mean a convincing victory here.

He should lead his two neighbours to the bend but may have to give best on the corner to the quick starting Quail Hollow. But from the second bend Paradise should be much too strong. Airlie Dazzler will be very strong from halfway and can follow the leader. Sidaz Eagle is a young dog with little experience but much pace and when he learns to start he could become a star. Keelogs Diamond and Big Surprise are fine experienced trackers but may struggle here.

HEAT 3: 1 PARADISE MADISON; 2 Airlie Dazzler; 3 Sidaz Eagle

*****

FANTASY HARD TO OPPOSE

Is there a more progressive dog in Ireland than JAXX ON FANTASY? Doubtful.

He was brilliant in finishing second in the Champion Stakes where he pushed Paradise Madison all the way and the former Hungarian racer can strike a blow for the Continental side of the game. Rumble Titan is a serious performer but he is returning from injury and may need the outing. Mays King is a young dog on the upgrade and stays very strongly. Clydal Jack has a terrific strike rate but has a poor draw for an inside seed while Locnamon Royal is an interesting northern challenger. Stone Boy King  impressed here last time but this is tougher.

HEAT 4: 1 JAXX ON FANTASY; 2 Rumble Titan; 3 Mays King

*****

DIAMOND CAN HIT THE RIGHT TUNE

Ringtown Snowy has two major wins this season in the Gain Cesarewitch and the Ladbrokes 600 and he is sure to run well.

He is returning from a lay-off and that may hand the advantage here to Oaks and Champion Stakes third MELODYS DIAMOND. She will need a smart start and will have to lead Ringtown to the bend. Drumurrer Vixen is well capable of progressing a fair few rounds and Is returning to best form. Barefoot Bandit is a young dog on the way up in class and likely to be involved at the business end. Signal Tower does his best work late while Combo Mike is well housed on the inside and can also be prominent.

HEAT 5: 1 MELODYS DIAMOND; 2 Ringtown Snowy; 3 Barefoot Bandit

*****

BOLD A FIRST FOR BRITAIN?

The Paul Sallis trained Bold Three arrives with a big reputation but the British tracker is something of a “dark one”.

He is returning from injury but has trialled well and was highly regarded across the water where he claimed a number of high profiles among his victims. Oaks finalist Tantallons Kay could well go off favourite and this inside runner will play a huge role if she can make a good start. Brogan Henry is a strong runner with a good draw but he must clear his neighbour Hillcroft Champ around the bend and that may be difficult. Lookoutforbodie has good southern form while Boundforthestars appears to face a difficult task in this grade.

HEAT 6: 1 BOLD THREE; 2 Tantallons Kay; 3 Brogan Henry

*****

CABRA CAN BUCK THE PANTHER

All eyes will be on Milldean Panther as he makes his eagerly awaited return from injury. He has performed well in trials but how much have his problems affected his brilliance?

Only time will tell but in the circumstances the vote is given to CABRA BUCK which can fly to the bend and stays strongly. Best drawn runner is Captain Scolari and he can lead up the inside and perhaps for much further. Nothing Simple will seek the rail early but he moved wide on the bend last time. He may be well housed. Slippery Sooty was unlucky last time when baulked on the bend but he is sure to figure. Oneco Impact is notoriously slow early but finishes like the proverbial express.

HEAT 7: 1 CABRA BUCK; 2 Milldean Panther; 3 Captain Scolari

*****

PUMA CAN RESUME WHERE HE LEFT OFF

Skywalker Puma’s bid to create history starts here. He will be bidding to become only the second dog to successfully defend his Irish Derby title – the other was Spanish Battleship which actually managed to defend it twice!

Puma fell last time but is reported in great form and he has a fine draw. Obvious main rival is Easter Cup winner North Bound and he, too, is perfectly housed in six. He won’t be easily beaten and the first bend lead could be vital. Slippery Robert is high class and could give the big two a real run for their money. Bookie Buster won the Kilkenny qualifier and led all the way then. Townspark Tucker has run some fine races in defeat here and is a strong stayer. Linwood Peter is well regarded but faces a very tough task. 

HEAT 8: 1 SKYWALKER PUMA; 2 North Bound; 3 Bookie Buster

*****

SKYWALKER CAN BE A HEAT STAR

This race has cut up badly with two absentees in Pakies Ramble (sold) and Jaytee Hellcat (injured) and, while reserves will run, they will hardly be of the same calibre.

The clear vote now goes to the well housed SKYWALKER STAR which can go up fast and stays strongly. Tyrur Annaleen is a classy female that made a mess of the start in the big Galway Bitch final last week. She can be involved here. Melodys Sonic has promised plenty since his Tralee debut while Lotus Paddy is a strong northern runner and is well housed.

HEAT 9: 1 SKYWALKER STAR; 2 Tyrur Annaleen; 3 Lotus Paddy

*****

DIVA CAN EARN HER DERBY STRIPES

While she probably hasn’t achieved as much as anticipated after a tremendous start to her career, Owen McKenna’s AIRFORCE DIVA is still one of the best bitches in training.

She was in top form here last time and a repeat of that form would see her home in front here. A big danger is the Champion Stakes finalist Droopys Adler which has only won four races but has been racing in the highest class right through his career. The youngster El Flutter has a big future but probably over further than this trip. He will be doing his best work from halfway. Fairhill Paddy goes up strongly while Danmar Mini is a very useful bitch but needs to improve. Tyrur Pirlo lacks experience but has buckets of potential.

HEAT 10: 1 AIRFORCE DIVA; 2 Droopys Adler; 3 El Flutter

*****



FANCIES, OUTSIDERS AND MORE



TOP THREE

* PARADISE MADISON....10-1

* KEREIGHT KING....25-1

* PARADISE SILVA....40-1     



GOOD VALUE

* BORNA GEM....66-1

* AIRFORCE DIVA....200-1

* TYRUR AMELIA....250-1   





MIRACLE SEEKERS

* EL FLUTTER (E.W)....200-1

* KILGRANEY BOLT (E.W)....500-1



A YEAR EARLY

* HAWAII KINSALE....100-1

* FIRE HEIGHT SCOT....100-1



DERBY NEWS AT A GLANCE



CHANGE OF NAME

* Kelmar Galaxy, which contests Heat 13 on Saturday, has been sold by Tony Martin and is now owned by Terry Corden. His name has been changed to Tynwald Galaxy.



* Johnnys Boy has had his name changed to Johnnys Star. The British bred challenger had to have a change of name when being sent to Ireland as the name had already been registered in the Irish Stud Book for a dog that was whelped back in 2005 but never raced, though he did have three official trials.



* El Flutter has been transferred from Jimmy Ferncombe’s name to the ownership of the O’Donnell/ Byrne/ Lenny Syndicate.



NON RUNNERS

* Heat 2 – Jacksallstar (injured). Reserve will run

* Heat 9 – Pakies Ramble (sold to UK). Reserve will run

* Heat 9 – Jaytee Hellcat (injured). Reserve will run



ST LEGER BOUND

Jaytee Hellcat was sent over to Paul Hennessy by John Turner to challenge for the Derby and was quietly fancied to go a long way in the classic.

However he hasn’t recovered from a knock received and will not take his place in Heat 9 in the first round.

The dog will remain with Hennessy and is to be aimed at the Kerry Agribusiness Irish St Leger at Limerick.

...but the Irish got to spread the competition over 5 weeks!

Bet ringtown snowy north bound ap 
Hope all stay sound looks great comp

Race 1 Enterprise Targeted Solutions Irish Greyhound Round 2 Heat 9 08:04 Approx. (550 Yds. Flat)  (Race Grade : AA0)
Trap    Greyhound     * View Complete Race Form
Trap 1    KILGRANEY TOMSON
Trap 2    LOTUS PADDY
Trap 3    BORNA GEM
Trap 4    SIGNAL TOWER
Trap 5    SIDAZ EAGLE
Trap 6    ALTERRA
Race 2 Enterprise Targeted Solutions Irish Greyhound Round 2 Heat 10 08:18 Approx. (550 Yds. Flat)  (Race Grade : AA0)
Trap    Greyhound     * View Complete Race Form
Trap 1    FAIRHILL PADDY
Trap 2    TYRUR BALOTELLI
Trap 3    DROOPYS ADLER
Trap 4    DROOPYS JET
Trap 5    CROSSFIELD STAR
Trap 6    LAHINCH BILLY
Race 3 Enterprise Targeted Solutions Irish Greyhound Round 2 Heat 11 08:32 Approx. (550 Yds. Flat)  (Race Grade : AA0)
Trap    Greyhound     * View Complete Race Form
Trap 1    HOLBORN JUNIOR
Trap 2    NOT SO SCOTTISH
Trap 3    DROOPYS MARGO
Trap 4    PARADISE SILVA
Trap 5    NORTH BOUND
Trap 6    ROCKVIEW TURBO
Race 4 Enterprise Targeted Solutions Irish Greyhound Round 2 Heat 12 08:46 Approx. (550 Yds. Flat)  (Race Grade : AA0)
Trap    Greyhound     * View Complete Race Form
Trap 1    BOLD THREE
Trap 2    BAREFOOT BANDIT
Trap 3    GLENANORE DANCER
Trap 4    SIDARIAN JAGUAR
Trap 5    BIG JOHNS GIRL
Trap 6    BIG SURPRISE
Race 5 Enterprise Targeted Solutions Irish Greyhound Round 2 Heat 13 09:00 Approx. (550 Yds. Flat)  (Race Grade : AA0)
Trap    Greyhound     * View Complete Race Form
Trap 1    STATESIDE TROIKA
Trap 2    TYRUR AMELIA
Trap 3    LODGEFIELD TURBO
Trap 4    BALLYANA FOXTROT
Trap 5    CATHYS CLOWN
Trap 6    PAY THE LOLLY
Race 6 Enterprise Targeted Solutions Irish Greyhound Round 2 Heat 14 09:14 Approx. (550 Yds. Flat)  (Race Grade : AA0)
Trap    Greyhound     * View Complete Race Form
Trap 1    FOREST RALPH
Trap 2    BOUNDFORTHESTARS
Trap 3    DEANRIDGE VIKING
Trap 4    KILGRANEY BOLT
Trap 5    SLIPPERY SOOTY
Trap 6    DRUMURRER VIXEN
Race 7 Enterprise Targeted Solutions Irish Greyhound Round 2 Heat 15 09:29 Approx. (550 Yds. Flat)  (Race Grade : AA0)
Trap    Greyhound     * View Complete Race Form
Trap 1    HIGHVIEW MAN
Trap 2    NOTHING SIMPLE
Trap 3    FRIDAYS CARROLL
Trap 4    KILLBARRY ROVER
Trap 5    MELODYS DIAMOND
Trap 6    BOOKIE BUSTER
Race 8 Enterprise Targeted Solutions Irish Greyhound Round 2 Heat 16 09:44 Approx. (550 Yds. Flat)  (Race Grade : AA0)
Trap    Greyhound     * View Complete Race Form
Trap 1    SKYWALKER PUMA
Trap 2    ISABELS BOY
Trap 3    CLYDAL JACK
Trap 4    ROCKCHASE BULLET
Trap 5    TYRUR SUGAR RAY
Trap 6    UNIVERSAL DREAM

anybody manage to lay bit of berlin down to 6.0?? and lots at 100? 

or anybody own up to backing it?

I was encouraged by the run of Ballyana Foxtrot in the heats on Saturday,in a comp with so much early this young un with little racing stuck too the task very well,improvement looks more than possible, and maybe the e/w (place bet in the comp?? Anyway made my shortlist now.

A surprising number of non runners, even allowing for the O’Donnell (non)runners.
This screwed up the morning price betting for a significant number of heats.

How do they manage to squeeze reserves in? They are either entered or they are not, unless you are in Ireland. The layers would have been caned on the Thursday, but may have got the lot back on Saturday.