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By:
fcompany
When: 25 Jul 12 18:33
heard panthers in the north of england,anyone know if its true?
By:
Swayne
When: 25 Jul 12 18:41
comp would be good COM.

its all v fishy with the Panther, one min he is derby fav. due to trial the flwg day and advertized in RP, then in the morning he is retired for a period of time but will be back, then in the afternoon he is retired full stop and no-one knows where he will stand at stud...maybe he is in North of England, where Kelso's Guardian is rumoured to be, and their both off to Dubai, as some of the tittle tatle suggests on Kelso'sCrazy
By:
letsgetserious
When: 25 Jul 12 19:04
Was on the fast boat Sunday morning and overheard some guy on phone saying he had Milldean Panther with him

He sounded Geordie
By:
Swayne
When: 25 Jul 12 19:34
I'd have turned pirate and commandeered the ship, and kept the treasure..Devil
By:
cashdoneatthecross
When: 25 Jul 12 19:59
Bassanio - the worst thing is with Lads is that this time 8/10 years ago they priced up several races every Saturday night at Shelbourne when there was any reasonable competition on, nowadays if you go into any of their shops(certainly down South Tipp/Waterford) you are lucky to get anything on.

Also shocked at the prices of the top 8 in the betting
By:
frank60
When: 25 Jul 12 23:47
Theres a Rumour about that they are changeing there name to Sadbrokes.Cry
By:
ChildOfMine2
When: 26 Jul 12 01:31
Another piece of ammo in Droopys Jet corner is that he's unbeaten around Shelbourne - "Horses for courses!" Happy
By:
Swayne
When: 26 Jul 12 04:46
yes, he;s class, but he's had red box in all his 5 HQ races
By:
SHANEBOY_FANTASY_WINS_2011_IRISH_DERBY
When: 26 Jul 12 16:01
.....SHANEBOYS dogs to look out for in the Derby..the winner is definately one of these!!!!!!!.....

..Droopys Cain..Droopys Jet..Razldazl Jayfkay..Tynwald Bolt..Confident Rankin..Razldazl Rioga..Cuil Cougar..Piercestown Sand..Rockchase Bullet..Razldazl George..Quail Hollow..Shelbourne Geoff..Kingo..Barefoot Allstar..Razldazl Bugatti..


.....IGNORE THE REST..THEY CANNOT WIN..THE WINNER IS ONE OF THESE!!.....
By:
Swayne
When: 26 Jul 12 22:58
CAMAS CRASH does 28.15at SPK tonight, with previous strong Limerick form..I cant even see it in the AP listCrazy
By:
FATTIEWHITEYSLOVEADRINK
When: 26 Jul 12 23:27
After such a run think they may enter him tomorrow!
By:
Bassanio
When: 27 Jul 12 09:31
Was already in the Derby Fattie as was on Talking Dogs entries before the race.

He is yet another unexposed but very talented dog that no bookmaker would quote until he did a flying run around Shelbourne.

I must admit he was completely off my radar though.

It is a bit annoying that he ran last night as when the entries come out, the bookies would have had to quote every dog and those that did comprehensive research on the entries may well have unearthed him and got a price.

He looks a serious prospect though.
By:
FATTIEWHITEYSLOVEADRINK
When: 27 Jul 12 10:09
if you fancy him (I've no idear who this dog iis till last nite anyway)
hope one of clueless firms put him in first like sidjanes  **** firm they are!
but than again they could email yar saying the dog was never 100/166/133/1like
Sussex cup dog I got on for £5ew!!
If you didn't have thick skin you pack up punting dogs!
By:
Chopper76
When: 27 Jul 12 11:26
Think Camas Crash's run highlights that MP track record isn't that out of this world
By:
Bassanio
When: 27 Jul 12 11:48
Track is faster than a few years ago and the top all aged dogs rarely run 525 around there any more.

The Premier Fantasy run is a better run than Panther's in my view.
By:
Swayne
When: 27 Jul 12 11:52
if they lay a dog dont they normally put it in their public book? theres no sign of him on oddschecker, he has top form around Limerick and was discussed on one of the forums a couple of weeks back.

Re Panther clock, even tho sand just relayed, was running fast last few months, and whilst Panther did clock in 4 dog race of much lesser quality, he did 3 of the 4 fastest times ever round SPK last year when not running as quick. You only need to look at rating of his times to see how fast he was, but trapping ability against all aged dogs let him down
By:
Bassanio
When: 27 Jul 12 12:54
They should put it in the public book anyway, so I would guess they have not entertained a bet on him so far.
By:
Chopper76
When: 27 Jul 12 14:43
There is no doubt imo that the PF run is street ahead
By:
Swayne
When: 27 Jul 12 18:07
Over forums this afternoon that Milldean Panther has been moved to Dolores and is not injured and will be running for her very soon. ? Crazy
By:
woodmanchester
When: 27 Jul 12 18:30
Only 10/1 on Betfair for Irish Derby. Razldazl Panther got a nice ring to it! I could get an 11th hour reprive! Happy.

It reminds me of when Kicking King wasn't supposed to be going in the Gold Cup just before Cheltenham one year, it did, and won! Crazy
By:
woodmanchester
When: 27 Jul 12 18:44
Seems Camas Crash opened at 100/1 with Power, 33s now.

Happy birthday HorseRacingExpert, 4 years old, eh? Laugh
By:
Swayne
When: 27 Jul 12 18:47
66's and 50's matched on Panther over last 2 / 3 hours (not by me unfort)
By:
SHANEBOY_FANTASY_WINS_2011_IRISH_DERBY
When: 27 Jul 12 19:04
.....Camas Crash did not open at 100/1..when Bassanio said they will put him in at a short price i watched the site all day as i was not working and they only put him on the site at 33/1..ignore the 100/1 beside it as it was never put up at that price.....


.....Milldean Panther was not matched at 66s or 50s on here..do some of you not know how to use the site..the best matched was 44.....
By:
Swayne
When: 27 Jul 12 19:07
well, I was told just now by someone who did it 66's and 50's (and the last £10 of his at 33's)
By:
SHANEBOY_FANTASY_WINS_2011_IRISH_DERBY
When: 27 Jul 12 19:08
.....well he is a liar as it was not matched at bigger than 44 on here!!!.....look at the graph.....
By:
FATTIEWHITEYSLOVEADRINK
When: 27 Jul 12 19:14
Could be 200/1 I wouldn't play him!
ain't done anythink since coming back
why so many ate up about him!
hope he does run might out somethink I think win it!
By:
FATTIEWHITEYSLOVEADRINK
When: 27 Jul 12 19:15
Could be 200/1 I wouldn't play him!
ain't done anythink since coming back
why so many ate up about him!
hope he does run might out somethink I think win it!
By:
Bassanio
When: 27 Jul 12 19:15
Powers probably put that up there so that they can create a story if he wins and bluff about their liabilities.
By:
Swayne
When: 27 Jul 12 19:23
how do use/access 'graph'? cheers
By:
SHANEBOY_FANTASY_WINS_2011_IRISH_DERBY
When: 27 Jul 12 19:24
.....click on the little sign to the left of the dogs name.....

.....here it is for u.....

1.01 £2     
1.03 £3     
7.00 £200   £5
7.40      £15
7.60      £8
8.00      £135
8.20      £135
8.40      £94
8.60      £18
9.00      £166
9.20      £4
9.60      £4
9.80      £2
10.00 £10   £92
10.50      £72
11.00      £16
11.50      £6
12.00      £100
13.00      £8
14.50      £20
15.00      £80
18.00      £20
20.00      £11
21.00      £11
22.00      £45
23.00      £31
32.00      £0
34.00 £0   £34
36.00      £4
40.00      £20
42.00      £4
44.00      £10
By:
Swayne
When: 27 Jul 12 19:43
thx
By:
never give up
When: 27 Jul 12 21:03

Jul 24, 2012 -- 1:44PM, never give up wrote:


has the panther moved to dolores kennels??


yip

By:
p_r_e_m_i_e_r__f_a_n_t_a_s_y
When: 29 Jul 12 11:02
Ladcrokes have put their betting back up. However entries closed last night for the Derby and they still have dogs who are entered not in their betting and no doubt have dogs not entered still in their betting.

It's your Derby so price up all the entries you useless shower of pr|cks.
By:
hillcrest
When: 29 Jul 12 12:06
anyone got a list of entries
By:
Swayne
When: 29 Jul 12 12:20
Shaneboy, I will come back to you
By:
woodmanchester
When: 29 Jul 12 12:26
Entries very important to me re-Panther and Sand. Phoned Declan Clary's number but only answer-phone. I masquerade as press! Laugh
By:
SHANEBOY_FANTASY_WINS_2011_IRISH_DERBY
When: 29 Jul 12 12:26
....what do you mean you will come back to me..what i have told you is FACT!!!!..Milldean Panther was only matched as big as 44 on here..he was not in the market on **** and on wbx nothing has been matched on him....so where was this supposed 66s and 50s?.....
By:
Swayne
When: 29 Jul 12 12:34
am not disputing what you say, like I said will look into and revert
By:
p_r_e_m_i_e_r__f_a_n_t_a_s_y
When: 29 Jul 12 17:51
No Razldazl Will in the Derby but then again a certain firm knew that days ago and instead of taking him out of the betting immediately they decided to double his price to sucker some people in. Well congratualtions you managed to get a few quid off me, now i know the perils of ante post betting so know my money is gone. I wouldn't even have the gall to look for my money back as i have some morals and know the ante post rules, morals something that said firm obviously don't have. Anyway enjoy my few quid that you got, you have again shown yourself up for the scumb@gs that you are, a dispicable firm. Ladies and gentlemen i give you Patrick Powers of Ireland!!
By:
FATTIEWHITEYSLOVEADRINK
When: 29 Jul 12 18:30
If will would of won would of had hard time getting paid out as that acc been closed a while now
For ringing up and saying can u **** that bet off there a res in 3 that's off the park with ep that will take out my 5 dog!
Got £40 back with email next day saying your barred!
Cheers badblokes!

pf on subject of derby what do u think mister granard or he had a name change!?
Big price?
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