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What happens from a punting point of view? If you've backed him since the end of round 3 have you done your dough? Pretty unlucky if so.
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I guess so. They can only void bets after disqualification I guess.
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Yeah. Layers would be dirty if it's a straight refund and backers will be dirty if they've just lost outright. No easy solution for the Fair but I'd guess there's a rule in place.
Still, let's be honest - they're not going to DQ Tiger. |
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Why not? They are enforcing the rules strictly this year. The 14 year old was penalised for slow play already. Rules are rules and Tiger has signed for an incorrect score.
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He might have. I don't mind either way, but I'm having a hard time picturing Tiger being DQ'ed at the moment.
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He's signed for a 71. With the 2 shot penalty, it should have been a 73. I can't see how he is not disqualified.
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You're assuming it's a definite penalty. If they assess a penalty he will be DQ'ed.
If it's not though, there's no problem. I suspect they might be lenient or fudge the rules a little to let him play on. Would be a brave man who DQs Tiger at the Masters. That's not to say it won't/shouldn't happen though. |
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Surely if he were to be disqualified he would have been already?
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I think you'll find that if Woods is in any doubt as to a rules infringement he would dq himself. No one better at playing to and understanding the rules of golf. Would he be comfortable playing the weekend if the Augusta officials bent the rules a little to let him play?? I think not.
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AUGUSTA, Ga. -- Tiger Woods got a bad break when his approach shot to the par-5 15th green bounced off the flagstick and into the water during Friday's second round.
He might also have taken a bad drop. Masters officials are expected to review the situation Saturday morning, which could lead to disqualification if it is deemed Woods dropped the ball in the wrong spot. Because Woods signed his scorecard for a 1-under 71 without adding the 1-stroke penalty, he would be disqualified because he put a six on his scorecard instead of a seven. Woods had 87 yards to the hole for his third shot and saw his ball hit the flagstick and then roll back off the green and into the water. Under Rule 26-1, Woods had three options at the yellow-staked (not lateral) hazard, which is a pond that fronts the green: • He could have played from a designated drop area, which he chose not to do because he did not like the lie. • He could have dropped the ball, keeping the point at which it last crossed the margin of the water between the hole and the spot on which the ball would be dropped. Since the ball entered the water well left of Woods' position from the fairway, it would seem he did not choose this option, which would have allowed him to drop on a straight line as far back as he wanted. • Or he could return to the original spot from which he played, and drop "as nearly as possible'' from where he played the third shot. This is the option Woods took, and in interviews afterward, he said he dropped "two yards'' behind the original spot. Replays seemed to suggest he was closer than that, but the question is if that is considered "as nearly as possible'' to the original spot. On a CBS-TV highlights show late Friday night, analyst David Feherty showed the replay and said he believed the drop was illegal. Augusta National officials were not available for comment early Saturday morning, but golf's rules officials typically review any possible violations brought to their attention. |
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He has dropped in the wrong spot, stupid rule IMO but he has broken it
Should be a 2 shot penalty and then of course DSQ for signing a wrong card but I doubt very much this will happen |
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If he's deemed to have signed for a wrong score he will be disqualified.
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So "Masters Breakfast" might be worth watching
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Even the Masters committee cant fudge this, it was a rule breach
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it looks that way.
I got disqualified for forgetting to put my handicap on the scorecard, would have won the tournament too. |
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I agree. It's a straightforward DQ, no question.
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ffs shirley not
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I reckon it will all come down to whether the amount he went behind the original shot "he claims 2yds" is further than he is allowed to in the committee's opinion.
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It would be automatic DSQ for me in club comp as I would not have asked for a ruling and then signed wrong card. But will they bend the relief rule a bit?
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He should be d'qd like anyone else would be , but its woods and Im sure the commercial decision will take precedent over the rules.
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Don't Drop the Ball Augusta [Is Tiger about to be disqualified?]
John Lynch's Dad ^ | 4-12-13 | Blog Posted on 13 April 2013 06:01:38 by FlJoePa Don't Drop the Ball, Augusta On a day that so much attention was given to a rules infraction, it’s another rules infraction that everyone should be talking about. We all know that 14 year old Guan Tianlang, competing at a level far beyond his age, was assessed a 1-stroke penalty for slow play. While basically nobody liked this ruling or agreed with it, it was technically correct. USGA Rule 26 governs drops when a ball is in a water hazard. Per this rule, a player can replay the shot from “as nearly as possible from the spot from which the original ball was last played.” A player can also go back as far as he’d like keeping the flag and the point where the ball last crossed the margin of the hazard in line. When Tiger Woods hit his approach into hole 15, his ball caromed off the flagstick and went into the water hazard near the front-left portion of the green. Per Tiger’s post-round comments, he then went back to where he played from, but went 2 yards farther back. When he did this, I tweeted “Whe did TW's ball last cross the margin of the hazard? Near the bleachers. Shouldn't he have dropped on that line, not the line he did?” Clearly, Tiger could have dropped from his original spot, but admitting that he dropped 2 yards farther back eliminates the “re-hit” drop option from consideration. The only other option he had was to keep the point where the ball last crossed the margin in line with the flag. As I stated above, the ball bounced off the stick and rolled off the front-left portion of the green and into the hazard. That is the point the ball last crossed the margin of the hazard, and that is the controlling point for the line Tiger needed to take his drop from. It’s absolutely within the realm of possibility Tiger just assumed his ball crossed the hazard on the line he originally hit it (it did, at first), but that line does not control where you take your drop. Check out the last paragraph of this Rules Decision: “If a ball last crossed the margin of a water hazard as described in the situation above, it appears that the ball crossed the margin of the hazard three times (e.g., first, the initial time it crossed; second, when it crossed over the hazard onto land; and third, when the ball rolled back into the hazard). So when the Rule states that the ball must be dropped “keeping the point where the ball last crossed the margin of the water hazard directly between the hole and the spot on which the ball is to be dropped,” it is referring to the third (final) time. It is the reference point for the 26-1b option only.” On a day that rules were being enforced, the Officials might want to go have a look at this one. |
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The very fact the Tiger has openly admitted that he deliberately dropped the ball "2 yards" further back from where he originally played, means that under the rules of golf he must be disqualified.
If they don't disqualify him, then the tournament will become a joke. |
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Move along please nothing to see here. They cannot disqualify the world no.1. Put up a market for it and there would be no offers.
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cant u drop as far back as u want?
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No, not in this instance, as he chose the option to replay the shot from where he had been originally. Then he admits that he dropped 2 yards further back.
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padlock - as far back on a line with where the ball entered the hazard (i.e. after hitting flagstick). he did not go back on the right line, so that rule doesn't apply.
he should be dqd under the rules. |
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Not in this situation, no.
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i hate to say it but he should be DQ.....the drop wasnt as near as possible....he went back so he cud hit the exact same shot again (to gain an advantage to him)
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There's gonna be carnage on here in 2 minutes. Masters Breakfast on Sky.
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the golf gods get revenge mabey
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the point of previous shot is clear as theres a divot
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As he chose to replay shot from original position he is only allowed a small amount of leeway where he drops the ball, not 2 yards.
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he was very unlucky with that shot,would be odds on now if it didnt hit pin
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I actually thought that he had made an error when he 'admitted' that he went two yards back for the drop, it should have been as near as possible to the last shot. I hate to say it because it would be a really cruel blow, but I think the only fair ruling is a DQ for Tiger.
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will it even get a mention on Masters Breakfast?
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Okay looks as though they'll cover it later, but body language would suggest they think he's a goner.
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given that he may well have infringed the rule, i'm surprised he hasn't come out and done the honourable thing overnight
if he is dq'd then waiting to be thrown out doesn't make him look good does it? |
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weird,show the f incident ffs
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Find it amazing that he has risked this rule infringement. Woods was DSQ for rule infringement not so long ago "embedded lie". Even the pro's get the rules wrong.
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