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By:
par
When: 19 Jul 12 12:40
hard to argue with that point
By:
irish wizard
When: 19 Jul 12 12:49
Countering against the Premium Charge you shouldve invested in Tiger with the Bookies and Layed him on here and if ur bet is a winner then ur lay on here is a LOSER thus stopping ur orbit into the PREMIUM CHARGE ! That is if u had the sense to realise that you are close to taxed on here before u get too close ! being a winner gambler but loser on here HELPS alot !
By:
henok
When: 19 Jul 12 13:09
OP, could you give me 2000?Wink i will pray for you in return
By:
EVILROYSLADE
When: 19 Jul 12 13:28
I fear the Weasel Woods will let his brattish temper take control and he will be dragging his bottom lip through the rough all week. Wish you well however KR.
By:
EVILROYSLADE
When: 19 Jul 12 13:29
Good old Lytham. Got him again.
By:
STEPTOES YARD
When: 19 Jul 12 13:30
tiger going backwards
By:
They think it's all over....
When: 19 Jul 12 13:40
John Parrott taught Hazel the word stellar,shes murdered ever since Cry
By:
therhino
When: 19 Jul 12 13:48

Jul 19, 2012 -- 1:29PM, EVILROYSLADE wrote:

Good old Lytham. Got him again.


Just a wee bit early to be declaring this my good man.

By:
Knight Rider
When: 19 Jul 12 13:52

Countering against the Premium Charge you shouldve invested in Tiger with the Bookies and Layed him on here and if ur bet is a winner then ur lay on here is a LOSER thus stopping ur orbit into the PREMIUM CHARGE ! That is if u had the sense to realise that you are close to taxed on here before u get too close ! being a winner gambler but loser on here HELPS alot !


Not sure I follow your logic.  Surely if he loses, you pay PC on your winning BF lay but lose the full amount with the bookies?

By:
noobile
When: 19 Jul 12 14:23
he means if you had backed tiger with the books at the same price then laid him on here if tiger did win you have a large loss this market to offset your premium charge. think of it as a "reverse arb"Grin
By:
therhino
When: 19 Jul 12 14:44
But if he backed with the books he needs a cool million in his BF account to trade Confused Not everyone has a million in their account I'm fairly sure... Although he actually might. Safe to say he knows what he's doing I think we can give him the benefit of the doubt.
By:
d13phe
When: 19 Jul 12 15:43
tempted to lay off to leave a big juicy green on Tiger?
By:
EVILROYSLADE
When: 19 Jul 12 17:59
I am hoping Rhino! I just hope KR is able to lay him off and soon! You guessed I cannot tolerate whinging Eldrick!Devil
By:
ocukstinky
When: 19 Jul 12 18:54
Best of luck to you KR, decent enough round today.
By:
Max and Paddy
When: 20 Jul 12 00:37
KR strikes me as the sort of person who would let a bet ride. Go for it, son.
By:
Dylan1975
When: 20 Jul 12 00:42
Tiger will be in the mix and we all know how good he is when in contention, looked to be swinging well and if the wind blows has his stinger which is a key shot off the tee. Looks like the weather might favour the later starters tomorrow too so he looks to be on the right side of the draw.
By:
Flashbadger.
When: 20 Jul 12 08:01
This must be teh most retarded bet of all time.....  Im quite a big player (probably bet in about 5-10% of Knighrider stakes..... and I often bet at 9/1 /10/1 here if 10/1 available at bookies due to ease - 10.5 here was an OK price on woods but only if you not a premium charge payer... so in effect KR is betting 110k at 6/1 when 10/1 available + all bookies offerring it so quite haoppy to lay - indeed Laddies would take 5k froma new account so would be easy to get 100k on if making an effort via all bookies....

I do like a drunken bet though so GL with taht....

secondly -  You must be delighted how woods played - I think 6/1 now looks like a great price so no harm done....  GL....
By:
Flashbadger.
When: 20 Jul 12 08:02
Ps I would speak to your account manager about getting this premium charge waived (do it now not after teh result) as this is definitely not what teh premium charge wasintroduced for......
By:
Brokelad
When: 20 Jul 12 08:10
I don't get this PC (am pretty sure it will never affect me so no need to worry), but I thought that single big wins weren't included? Unless KR is winning 50grand a week on golf!!!
By:
bubbagreen
When: 20 Jul 12 08:19
man up and put your 'big' bets up next time flash Cool
By:
Aussie Driver
When: 20 Jul 12 08:21
Brokelad (not aptly named I hope), broadly speaking one big win IS excluded when determining whether someone is eligible to pay the PC, but once you are eligible for PC, as KR obviously already is, the premium charge will be applied to the profits made thereafter
By:
Total Bosman
When: 20 Jul 12 08:25
Surely you'd have been able to drip-feed this in on purple over the week rather than pay 40%?  Liquidity was very solid, and if you'd have gone a couple of ticks under BF you'd get snapped up for the arb, and still have a better price than losing 40% of your win.
By:
bubbagreen
When: 20 Jul 12 08:37
do we need to make this thread another PC debate Mischief
the world and his wife know its better to punt elsewhere these days
not had a bet on here since yang beat tiger in the uspga
greened up after day 2 at 1/4 and got the letter

goodbye blue, hello purple Cool
By:
d13phe
When: 20 Jul 12 08:45
How do we know KR pays the premium charge?

might not play on enough markets to qualify
By:
Total Bosman
When: 20 Jul 12 08:47
Gerbs     Joined: 14 Apr 02
Replies: 2240 19 Jul 12 10:44 
knight rider are you currently a PC payer ?

Knight Rider     19 Jul 12 10:56 
Yes I am Gerbs.  so Betfair cheering on Woods as well
By:
Brokelad
When: 20 Jul 12 08:47
Cheers Aussie Driver (the name is a fairly apt reflection unfortunately!!) 40% of that much is a shocker! Still, a dilemma I wouldn't mind having atm lol.
By:
d13phe
When: 20 Jul 12 08:48
Fair enough TB Plain

in that case why would you bet on here unless the bookies wont touch him?
By:
bubbagreen
When: 20 Jul 12 08:51
i think tiger will have to hit the front b4 the wind comes sunday/saturday Cool
By:
Bayes.
When: 20 Jul 12 09:09
If you are a PC payer then you are effectively in a 60/40 syndicate with Betfair, clearly with you doing the hard bit. Thus KR is really only risking 66.6k here if he loses as he will be rebated the 44.4k in the future by not payinhg PC on other wins.

The big risk for all PC payers is that they become long term losers. Then Betfair cunningly withdraw from the 'syndicate' and no rebate ever materialises. I'm sure this scenario is highly unlikely for KR and as such it is irrelevant whether he has 111k on here or 66.6k elsewhere.
By:
Knight Rider
When: 20 Jul 12 09:52
Good post Bayes.  It's by no means clear cut so I'm not surprised some people have called me a 'clown', 'retarded' etc.  Laugh But I've weighed up the likelihood of my continuing to make money over the next few years, which I think is good, and Betfair will be taking a 40% cut of my LONG-TERM earnings, this is very different from taking 40% of each bet.  So it is wrong to think of it in terms of getting 11/2 instead of 9/1 etc.  Any losing bet creates a new premium charge 'buffer' for future earnings.
By:
Bayes.
When: 20 Jul 12 10:01
Must admit Tiger looks a bit big here compared with his SP, particularly as he usually stays silly short in running. Presumably this price is nowhere near a lay for you KR?
By:
Knight Rider
When: 20 Jul 12 10:07
Yeah I've got no interest laying off at the moment.  Fortunately I am on Scott as well so that helps mitigate the risk somewhat.
By:
Barzalona
When: 20 Jul 12 12:00
KR - Surely being as sound a follower of Golf as you appear to be, and having watched many struggle with the conditions this morning, and also viewing the likely forecast of worse weather when the Tiger tees off.... you would have to be thinking strategically now?

Maybe you just love the ultimate "live by the sword, die by the sword" swashbuckling existence, and can afford it.

Either way, all the very best to you.
By:
bubbagreen
When: 20 Jul 12 12:05
green up

and chill out for the rest of the year
By:
xmoneyx
When: 20 Jul 12 12:20
which woods will come out today
By:
bubbagreen
When: 20 Jul 12 12:35
a shrewd bet by kit when there was no wind
tiger can't control the stinger in the wind
By:
sosay
When: 20 Jul 12 13:11
why the feck would he green up if he believes to have good value,tiger is also in a decent position to push on so greening up now would be pissing money away long term
By:
bubbagreen
When: 20 Jul 12 13:14
cause he can live it large on just the winnings for the rest of the year Cool
By:
bubbagreen
When: 20 Jul 12 13:15
come back for the masters Cool
By:
Barzalona
When: 20 Jul 12 13:21
sosay - tiger's game is notoriously not suited to adverse weather.
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