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Super Hans
21 May 12 18:27
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Only 3 weeks till the best major gets underway.

Anyone spotted any early value in the market?

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By:
'king alf's back
When: 21 May 12 23:47
Geoff Ogilvy looks like he's built his season around peaking for this... a previous winner and usually goes well when its a tough scoring course....and this will be the case. 80/1 available with books seems fair enough ( had he won this year he'd be 33/1 at best ). The signs of an imminent return to top form have been showing up over his last 4 tournaments....tbh, still struggling to forgive him losing in a play off to the pensioner Peter Senior in Oz a couple back as I'd had a big bet when he was well behind, then had it in the bag and blew it....but maybe he'll return the loss with a bit of interest Grin Backed Rickie Fowler @ 86 on purple when he was about to lose his maiden tag and layed back @ 52 for a nice freebie but would want 66/1 to re-bet and thats doubtful pre tournament.Love the US Open and its always been a source of profits in this camp so can only hope the trend continues. Go Go GO Laugh
By:
Super Hans
When: 22 May 12 16:06
Currently only 10 of the top 30 players best priced on here.

Can see Rory 11.5 / Charl 65 and Webb @ 75 going off shorter on the day.

Hoping a big chuck will drift when the full field is added.
By:
maggot
When: 22 May 12 16:21
Can't see Webb ever winning a U.S. Open, unless he improves on his driving accuracy.

Having said that, if they grow the rough like they did last year, then he might be a good thing at that price.

My guess is that the rough will be more punishing than ever, to make up for last year's debacle.
By:
maggot
When: 22 May 12 16:26
My only bets so far ( apart from laying Stenson @ 20s in a piddly amount), Dufner @ 100s, laid off @ 42s, and a lay of Bubba @ 36.
By:
Ampleforth
When: 22 May 12 16:54
I have laid all the listed runners for a small profit already, and with over 70 runners still to be added I will be hoping for a shock winner for a bumper no risk payday Cool
By:
Super Hans
When: 22 May 12 17:13
Wouldn't back Webb myself.

But wouldn't be surprised to see him going off at 65 or lower.
By:
therhino
When: 23 May 12 11:33
Webb drifted massively before the Masters and unless he does something between now and then I can see him hitting 3 figures again with Dufner killing it, peoples love of Ricky growing with his win and guys like Jason Day finding a little form a few will need to be pushed down and he will be one of them barring a good showing before San Francisco.
By:
HeinzGuderian
When: 23 May 12 21:37
I seem to remember the rough being virtually unplayable last year. All anyone could do was hack out sideways !!
The lad who won it only hit it off the fairway once.....and still managed a Par.

By the way,a look back at last years selections does make very interesting reading !! Laugh
By:
maggot
When: 23 May 12 22:01
Not sure which tournament you were watching, Heinz, but obviously not the U.S. Open 2011.
By:
'king alf's back
When: 23 May 12 22:45
Can only imagine Heinz is thinking of the USPGA ??? the US Open was on a comparatively easy course...they won't let anyone win on -10+ this year....will be back to the good old days of Winged Foot/Shinecock Hills style scoring, hopefully....its a far sterner test and much more interesting. Last year was just like most weeks on PGA tour.Can't fault the way Rory won but it was the easiest a US Open course has played in my memory by a long way.
By:
HeinzGuderian
When: 24 May 12 10:10
I think you'll find that the rough at Congressional was virtually unplayable maggot......that would explain why only 2 out of 156 players reached double figures,you see. Cool
The trick was to keep it on the fairway......one lad managed that exceptionally well Grin
By:
maggot
When: 24 May 12 11:07
You're getting muddled, Heinz. You must be the only one on the planet with that opinion.

Congressional, last year, played just about as easy as any course in U.S. Open history.
By:
Aussie Driver
When: 24 May 12 11:18
Maggot listen to the genius, the winner managed par apparently. Oh hang, maybe the guy who managed par finished about 20th ..................... hmmm not sure about all this
By:
HeinzGuderian
When: 24 May 12 11:59
Sorry ladies,but the rough was punishing last year.
Pray explain why the lad had to play out sideways,back to the fairway,on the 5th,on Saturday,if,as you are trying to claim,the rough not punishing ?

You girls have been out in the sun too long !! Laugh
By:
HeinzGuderian
When: 24 May 12 12:02
'Still managed 'A' Par,drivel.......Kanga Burgers must be getting to you,mate. Grin
By:
Aussie Driver
When: 24 May 12 12:19
Ok Mugerian, yes the rough at Congressional last year was penal LaughLaugh

I wish I lived in your world, the fantasy sounds great
By:
therhino
When: 24 May 12 12:32

May 24, 2012 -- 5:59AM, HeinzGuderian wrote:


Sorry ladies,but the rough was punishing last year.Pray explain why the lad had to play out sideways,back to the fairway,on the 5th,on Saturday,if,as you are trying to claim,the rough not punishing ?You girls have been out in the sun too long !!


Maybe because he had a massive lead and didn't see the need to go for it and risk a DB or worse. That would be one explanation, fairly obvious one would think. The course was set up easy and the greens were soft due to rain. Hence the -16 and the plethora of others under par.

So no mercy this year we have to assume. I like Dufner's chances therefore, the in form player and just constantly plugs away finding fairways and greens. Has to go close.

By:
HeinzGuderian
When: 24 May 12 14:34
We were discussing the 'punishing' rough,Rhino,Wee Buddy.
I mean to say,if it wasn't that 'punishing',why not just go for the green in Two ?

The lad played it perfectly. Unilke Westwood,Mickelson,who were hacking out and cursing their errant drives.

They can grow the rough to Ten Feet this year.........no problem at all for someone who can drive it straight.

( Tigger must be licking his chops ) Confused
By:
NorwichRob
When: 27 May 12 12:43
I'm sure most on here remember the last Olympic US Open - Lee Janzen's win in 1998 - course set up was crazy...seem to recall John Daly having an uphill 2 footer at 18 which horseshoed out and went 30ft behind him, winning score even par but course made for cracking viewing...apparently USGA Exec Director predicting first 6 holes to be toughest ever start in a US Open...obviously not looking for a -16 Rory repeat! Course has been lengthened but still reckon the winner profile will be similar to Janzen's....accuracy and touch...enjoy...Cool
By:
hitmanhearn
When: 28 May 12 10:23
Luuukkee
By:
golfdaft
When: 29 May 12 08:26
Your right about Congressional, due to the pre tournament weather, it was softer than they anticipated which meant far more guys hit the fairways and then greens in reg, hence the overall scoring was more in keeping with a regular event. The aim of the organisers is to find a winner with a score of around about level par and the course will be set up to achieve this. NorwichRob is correct that the winners profile will most likely be an accurate player, not necessarily long off the tee, but in my view,a more important factor will be an even temperament, a few players fit this bill, Donald being the most obvious one.
By:
donny osmond
When: 29 May 12 10:53
us open qualifier at walton heath yesterday ...


q-Alexander Noren, Sweden
67-68 -- 135

q-Marc Warren, Scotland
70-65 – 135

q-Lee Slattery, England
71-66 -- 137

q-Gregory Bourdy, France
67-70 -- 137

q-Mikko Ilonen, Finland
66-71 -- 137

q-George Coetzee, South Africa
66-71 -- 137

q-Soren Kjeldsen, Denmark
68-69 -- 137

q-Matthew Baldwin, England
67-71 -- 138

q-Matteo Manessaro, Italy
69-69 -- 138

q-Peter Lawrie, Ireland
67-71 -- 138

q-Raphael Jacquelin, France
70-68 -- 138
-----------------------------------
A-Sihwan Kim, Korea
66-72 -- 138

A-Jeev Milkha Singh, India
71-68 -- 139

Benjamin Hebert, France
70-69 -- 139

Gregory Havret, France
71-68 -- 139

Niclas Fasth, Sweden
67-72 -- 139

Ross McGowan, England
73-66 -- 139

Richard Bland, England
67-72 -- 139

Colin Montgomerie, Scotland
68-72 -- 140

Stephen Gallacher, Scotland
67-73 -- 140

Joel Sjoholm, Sweden
70-70 --140

Thomas Aiken, South Africa
72-68 --140

Robert Coles, England
72-68 -- 140

Jorge Campillo, Spain
70-70 -- 140

Oscar Floren, Sweden
71-70 -- 141

Jose Maria Olazabal, Spain
67-74 – 141

Markus Brier, Austria
69-72 -- 141

Chris Wood, England
70-71 -- 141

Bernd Weisberger, Austria
70-72 –142

Shane Lowry, Ireland
72-70 – 142

Andrew Johnston, England
74-68 -- 142

Ross Fisher, England
71-71 -- 142

Thorbjorn Olesen, Denmark
70-72 -- 142

Marcel Siem, Germany
71-72 -- 143

Pablo Larrazabal, Spain
66-77 -- 143

Carlos Del Moral, Spain
73-70 -- 143

Darren Fichardt, South Africa
68-75 -- 143

Mohd Siddikur, Bangladesh
70-73 -- 143

Ricardo Santos, Portugal
74-69 -- 143

Romain Wattel, France
71-73 -- 144

Gary Boyd, England
72-72 -- 144

Johan Edfords, Sweden
69-75 -- 144

Jean-Baptist Gonnet, France
73-71 -- 144

Gary Murphy, Ireland
73-71 -- 144

Rikard Karlberg, Sweden
74-71 -- 145

Rhys Davies, Wales
73-72 –145

Simon Khan, England
75-70 -- 145

Alejandro Canizares, Spain
71-74 -- 145

Matthew Zions, Australia
71-74 -- 145

Peter Hedblom, Sweden
73-72 -- 145

Fabrizio Zanotti, Paraguay
68-77 -- 145

Andrea Pavan, Italy
69-76 -- 145

Jbe Kruger, South Africa
69-77 -- 146

Tommy Fleetwood, England
71-75 -- 146

Anton Haig, South Africa
73-74 -- 147

Himmat Rai, India
74-73 -- 147

Marcus Fraser, Australia
72-76 -- 148

Scott Hend, Australia
76-72 -- 148

Sean Whiffin, England
70-79 -- 149

Tom Lewis, England
73-76 -- 149

Anirban Lahiri, India
73-77 -- 150

Richard McEvoy, England
77-74 -- 151

Zhiqun Lam, Singapore
75-77 -- 152

Michael Jonzon, Sweden
76-76 -- 152

Oskar Henningsson, Sweden
73-80 -- 153

Ian Keenan, England
77-77 -- 154

Andrew Dodt, Australia
68-WD -- WD

Scott Jamieson, Scotland
76-WD -- WD

Gareth Maybin, Northern Ireland
72-WD -- WD

Richie Ramsay, Scotland
80-WD -- WD

Pelle Edberg, Sweden
74-WD -- WD

Lorenzo Gagli, Italy
78-WD -- WD

Brett Rumford, Australia
73-WD -- WD

Edoardo Molinari, Italy
79-WD -- WD

Julien Quesne, France
75-WD -- WD

Fredrik Andersson Hed, Sweden
75-WD – WD

Shiv Kapur, India
74-WD -- WD

George Murray, Scotland
72-WD -- WD

Thomas Levet, France
73-WD -- WD

Pablo Martin, Spain
WD-WD -- WD

Jose Manuel Lara, Spain
WD-WD -- WD
By:
Super Hans
When: 29 May 12 14:50
Currently 98 players listed in the market.

How many more to add?
By:
zog
When: 30 May 12 20:56
Heinz been eating strange mushrooms
By:
Howdi
When: 30 May 12 21:13
About time Lukkke stepped up the plate.
By:
donny osmond
When: 30 May 12 23:18
1998

 
Lee Janzen, 33, made four birdies and no bogeys over the final 15 holes at The Olympic Club in San Francisco to come from seven strokes behind Payne Stewart and claim his second U.S. Open Championship in six years. Ironically, he also overtook Stewart to win in 1993 at Baltusrol Golf Club in Springfield, N.J.

"I seem to bring out the best in Lee," said a disappointed Stewart, who had led for more than 60 holes of the championship.

Janzen began the day five strokes behind Stewart, who led for the first three days and was the only player under par heading into the final round at 3-under-par 207. Playing two groups ahead of Stewart, Janzen started at 2-over 211 but dropped two more strokes behind when he bogeyed the difficult second and third holes.

Janzen gained momentum with his good fortune on the par-4 fifth. His tee shot found the trees on the left and looked to be lost, but as he was heading back to the teeing ground to replay a second tee ball, his first ball dislodged and fell from a tree into the deep rough. Janzen chipped back to the fairway, hit his approach over the green, and then chipped in for par.

"I can't tell you the feeling I had walking to the sixth tee," said Janzen. "I was looking at six and I made four."

Janzen still didn't appear to be a threat to Stewart. More apparent challengers were Tom Lehman at 1-over, who was playing in the final group for the fourth consecutive year, and Nick Price and Bob Tway in the second to last group, each starting the final round at 2-over. None, however, could make birdies like Janzen. His final round of 2-under 68 was one of only three sub-par rounds on Sunday.

Janzen earned a share of the lead with birdies on the par-3 12th and par-4 13th before carefully navigating pars on the incoming holes, including the most difficult 486-yard 17th, where he reached the green with a 3-iron and 2-putted from 40 feet straight downhill.

Stewart, who won the Open in 1991 and also led after 36 holes in 1996, made bogey on the 16th after finding a greenside bunker with his approach. His last chance to tie Janzen came at the finishing hole, where he had a 25-footer for birdie. His downhill putt broke left and slid inches below the hole, giving Janzen the biggest come-from-behind win after 54 holes since Hale Irwin came from five back in 1973.

"I feel complete satisfaction," said Janzen, who could barely stand to watch Stewart's birdie putt on the final hole from a television in the scoring area. "I went out and played my absolute best in the championship I love most."

There were only 26 rounds under par for the championship. Janzen had two of them, the lowest of which was his 66 for the second round, which brought him into contention after an opening 73. The lowest round was Paul Azinger's 65 on Sunday, capped by a birdie at the 18th.

Nineteen-year-old amateur Matt Kuchar had one of those under-par rounds as well. His 70-69 start put him at 1-under and in a tie for fourth place, just two strokes behind Stewart, who entered the weekend at 3-under. The reigning U.S. Amateur champion finished tied for 14th, the lowest finish for an amateur since Jim Simons was tied for fifth in 1971. He was the only one of six amateurs in the field to make the cut and earned exempt status for the 1999 championship.

The minimum of 60 players made the cut, which came at 7-over 147. Rocky Walcher axed three former champions from the field when he made par late Friday night, playing in the third to last group.

The USGA accepted a record 7,117 entries for the championship, none of which a stir like the entry of Casey Martin, who was awarded the right to use automotive transportation in the championship because a physical disability (leg). Martin, a member of the PGA Nike Tour in 1998, finished tied for 23rd.




Lee Janzen, 73-66-73-68-280  $535,000   

Payne Stewart,66-71-70-74-281

Bob Tway, 68-70-73-73-284

Nick Price, 73-68-71-73-285

Steve Stricker, 73-71-69-73-286
Tom Lehman, 68-75-68-75-286

David Duval,75-68-75-69-287
Lee Westwood, 72-74-70-71-287
Jeff Maggert, 69-69-75-74-287

Jeff Sluman, 72-74-74-68-288
Phil Mickelson, 71-73-74-70-288
Stuart Appleby, 73-74-70-71-288
Stewart Cink,73-68-73-74-288

Paul Azinger, 75-72-77-65-289
Jesper Parnevik, 69-74-76-70-289
a-Matt Kuchar 70-69-76-74-289
Jim Furyk, 74-73-68-74-289

Colin Montgomerie, 70-74-77-69-290
Loren Roberts, 71-76-71-72-290
Frank Lickliter II, 73-71-72-74-290
Jose Maria Olazabal, 68-77-71-74-290
Tiger Woods, 74-72-71-73-290

Casey Martin, 74-71-74-72-291
Glen Day, 73-72-71-75-291
By:
bubbagreen
When: 03 Jun 12 09:31
you should have held your nerve on rickeeeeee queenie MischiefCool
By:
Super Hans
When: 03 Jun 12 23:05
Well that's changed things.

Boy wonder out to 18 and Tiger in to 7.6.

Good news for outsider backers. Should be some tasty prices available.
By:
khpunter
When: 04 Jun 12 11:42
Anyone have a link to the field yet or are there still more entrants to be decided?
By:
donny osmond
When: 04 Jun 12 12:04
us sectional qualifiers today

field should be more or less sorted

http://www.usopen.com/en_US/news/qualifying/sectional.html


and follow the links ....
By:
daffyde
When: 06 Jun 12 23:14
Paul Lawrie and Thomas Bjorn for me. Watching the 98 Janzen/ Stewart footage a couple of nights ago. If it's set up anything like that you're going to need a straight driver and a sh!t hot chipper. Bjorn is one of the best as is Lawrie. I also think that (despite their respective tempers at a younger age) these two have got older heads on their shoulders and will be able to deal with the inevitable Bogeyfest and play through it. Despite his cr@p putting, I've always been impressed with how Westwood can get through bad holes and be patient. You're going to need that sort of attitude round Olympic. Could really see some of the less experienced players blow up
By:
SophieB
When: 06 Jun 12 23:58
paul lawrie not taking his us open spot, god knows why not....all the cheap air fares gone?
By:
HeinzGuderian
When: 07 Jun 12 09:55
Snapped up all the 16.5 on Mr Westwood yesterday !! Cool
By:
hacker
When: 07 Jun 12 12:01
Do we get shot tracker during the US Open?
By:
HeinzGuderian
When: 07 Jun 12 14:30
Nope,but Maggot does pass around his Fairy Cakes. Mischief
By:
donny osmond
When: 07 Jun 12 16:15
they have playtracker, but its not shot by shot as far as i remember
By:
hacker
When: 07 Jun 12 17:59
Thanks Donny
By:
lufc67
When: 07 Jun 12 18:14
remember Janzen winning it,i was on nicky price and remember doing my nut when janzen kept getting the breaks which included hitting it up a tree only for it to belatedly drop down for a good lie.Sad
By:
HARRY22
When: 08 Jun 12 22:40
Is anyone actually backing tiger woods at the current price? ShockedShocked a genius flop shot wins him last weeks tournament and now he is 11/2 fav for the us open..oh dear Cry
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