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frames
13 Jul 10 13:37
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Enjoyed doing the thread last year and being as I got incredibly lucky and have come no where near to that win in the last 12 months then it seems fair enough to have another crack.
It`s very different this year though ,Tiger (7.4 as I type) was shorter than he is now after shooting a very poor first round at Turnberry.He went off a 5/2 chance on a course he had not played before (I think) and  here he is at over 6/1 on a course where he has lagged up in the last two Opens played here.Two ways of looking at it ,wow what a price or perhaps this could be the last chance we get to lay the Greatest at single figures in our Open.I have had a few quid in to lay him at 6.0 for a while ,he got to 6.4 and obviously I wish I had layed that.Now 7.6 as I type and it seems one way traffic.
I was hoping to find last years thread and copy a few bits off it to post on here as the rules for me are the same as always.The difference this year is that I cannot field anywhere near last years as a starting point.I think I was fielding 12k ish against Tiger at the off and his poor start made it.I can`t see me laying him until  near the off this time and might gamble on him making a fast start but that`s not a game I`m keen to play.
I remember a few of the regulars posting figures last year ,TB,Trebor,Knight Rider, Ronsk and a few others I can`t remember at the moment.This made the thread much more interesting and I hope they will give it another go and also hope a few others might join in.Bito has promised a "how to make the Giro pay" piece which has to be a great addition.
I look forward to the weeks banter and will try and answer any questions asked.I have turned the filter off for the week.
Good luck all.

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By:
donny osmond
When: 13 Jul 10 13:44
i know you are a layer, but have you had any backs either to trade or to hold

good luck, a brave project
By:
mythical prince
When: 13 Jul 10 13:47
no lapdancing clubs in st andrews and if woods wants to win he will. 7.6 is HUGE however for the longer shots im also going for justin rose and alvaro quiros.
By:
frames
When: 13 Jul 10 13:51
I have backed a few massive prices, 600+ to hopefully trade .Don`t want to post them now as it could be called a ramp ( rather leave those to Archie)but I will do before the off.The only player I have layed so far as part of the book is Darren Clarke.
By:
Herbie Peanut
When: 13 Jul 10 14:11
Good luck Frames glad to see you are doing this again. Tigers drift must be due to his switch to a broomstick putter!
By:
DONEMYLOT
When: 13 Jul 10 14:34
Excellent

Good Luck frames, very enjoyable reading
By:
ulf lundell
When: 13 Jul 10 15:59
Looking forward :)
By:
frames
When: 13 Jul 10 16:03
Thanks all.As with last time DML ,it`s just numbers.
My favourite thread title of the week so far ,"the weather is going to be a factor".
By:
Chosen®
When: 13 Jul 10 16:33
Good luck, frames. This - as last year - will be the 'go to' thread for the Open. Looking forward to it.

For the record, I'm laying Woods outright and top five. He's simply not mentally in shape to handle the questions (on and off the course) that keep coming. Plus the putter has been abandoned.
By:
ericthecat
When: 13 Jul 10 16:46
frames, i knew it would make a few smile ;-)

I agree with you bet Tiger then lay him as I am sure he will make a fast start in near windless conditions. Aim to lay him at about 4's and take the free bet.

Harrington is value, nerves of steel.
By:
DaVinci I
When: 13 Jul 10 16:46
Afternoon chaps, hope you don't mind me pitching in on here too.

Be really interested to read your thoughts in play frames as you have made some moves recently in the markets which I would have done myself (Bank permitting Blush)

I'll post my thoughts tomorrow at some point in more detail but as usual most of my trading will be done in play.

I actually think Tiger is starting to offer a bit of value at 6/1+ but the real reason for my post today is your thoughts on Darren Clarke? I thought after last week's improved display he might be able to get off to a fast start here and may offer a decent trade?

Surprised at your decision to single him out as lay pre event at a big price, just wondered what the reasoning was behind it?

Good Luck to All and let's hope for a profitable week Cool
By:
ronsk
When: 13 Jul 10 17:00
I shouldn't speak for Frames, but my guess is simply that he's taken a view regarding Clarke. His price is plenty short enough, given his form in recent times, therefore I suspect he's playing the long game. I may be wrong...

Top stuff Frames. This was easily the thread of last season, may this one continue in much the same vein!
By:
DaVinci I
When: 13 Jul 10 17:12
Agree with the 'long game' view as I wouldn't fancy him to win it and you are right of course he is very poor value at the odds when compared to others.

Just thought he may be more of a back to lay rather than an outright lay, but it's all about opinions.

I guess that's why Betfair has done so well.
By:
double trouble
When: 13 Jul 10 17:15
Good luck frames, going to be a cracking week. And Eric, please stick around, you could be a star in the making.
By:
caney1980
When: 13 Jul 10 17:17
DaVinci - I feel the same on Clarke and was left scratching my head after backing at 110 before he'd officially qualified only to then see the odds go to 120! 

Fingers crossed he gets off to a fast start first few days...!

Love this thread, only just discovered the betfair forum Shocked
By:
frames
When: 13 Jul 10 17:39
Cheers all.
Chosen , good luck but I have noticed you have gone anti Tiger since his private life came into the open ,not sure it`s a good plan to keep laying someone because you detest them.I have not layed Monty for at least a month now .He`s done nothing all season but still managed two Top 5`s in the majors.Played 9 good holes in the US Open and I don`t remember anything special in The Masters and yet he was still thereabouts.
DaVinci,with regards Clarke Ronsk is correct,I tend to think players shorten up too much after a good week.I look at the players around Clarke in the market ,does he really have a better chance than Schwartzel,Quiros,Karlsson and Co ? He is a 1/3rd of the price the two Sorens.I would not back him at 300 but as always you pays your money ............
Rose and Donald amongst others have shown recently that taking on these in form players is by no means foolproof.I`m fairly sure Stricker will be on the early lay list,halved in price after a pitch and putt victory last week.Actually pitch and putt might be successful around here.
Eric,I`m not sure I said to back Tiger then lay later.Dangerous play that one but good luck.
By:
DaVinci I
When: 13 Jul 10 18:10
Thanks for the reply.

Stricker definitely on the lay list for me too. May find thing a bit different this week Laugh

Just thought Darren might like this course a bit more than some you mention, but we'll see.

Good luck and look forward to reading your thoughts over the next few days.
By:
ericthecat
When: 13 Jul 10 18:44
frames, sorry if I mis-understood your first post? But, if the weather forcast is accurate and Tiger tees off in windless conditions, I can see him being 3 under by the turn and the price shortening bigtime to about 3.5! So depending on the weather nearer the day I aim to get free bets on all thanks to Tiger. But I can not see him winning. Harrington, Ogilvy, Karlsson, Glover and Soren Hansen for me. Tempted by Dredge 300s is a big price for the course record holder!
By:
marychain1
When: 13 Jul 10 19:07
Excellent thread. Mind if I join you? I have been laying contenders in running in some recent tournaments, and may well adopt that approach as the week progresses, but I have started with a some backs. I've done outright and top 10 on all my picks, most ones I feel could go deep or win, and I have had a couple of speculative punts at long shots as well.

I've gone for Fisher and Wood as my only bets at under 100.0. At similar stakes I've gone for Stenson, Choi, Schwartzel, Watney, Overton, Yang and Slocum at prices of 110 to 400. I've split one bet between Hansen, Ikeda, Faldo, Fujita and Noh at prices 600-1000.
By:
a bitofinterest
When: 13 Jul 10 19:11
i can't be certain the giro will arrive in time Cry
By:
saxon farm
When: 13 Jul 10 19:25
Frames: An excellent thread,have a good Open, sir.
By:
Knight Rider
When: 13 Jul 10 19:40
Good luck Frames, I'll join in again although I think this tournament was my biggest loss last year Laugh

However like a moth to a flame I will be going in again with the same strategy.  Mostly backing the underrated PGA players and laying the overrated Euro ones.  Laying each one to lose £100k, the main lays at sub-100 are:

McIlroy
Mickelson
Harrington
Rose
McDowell
Poulter
Kaymer
Casey
Donald
Fisher
F Molinari
Wood

Obviously have laid plenty more but not gonna clog up the thread with all of them!  All these players are currently -£96k (or will be thereabouts once I've been filled in).

Biggest greens as follows:

Ryan Moore +£676k
Matt Kuchar +£419k
D.A. Points +£353k
Rickie Fowler +£296k
Zach Johnson +£258k
Jason Day +£252k
Y.E. Yang +£248k
Steve Stricker +£233k

Players that I have neither backed nor laid are currently +£3.7k, this should go up a bit by the time the tournament starts.

Obviously this could go very well or very badly, it's not ideal to be betting much bigger on one tournament than I do for the rest of the tournaments all year but I think you've got to take advantage of liquidity when it's there.

Have not laid Tiger, I had an order in at 6.0 which I thought was just about reasonable but people laying 7.6 and upwards must be bonkers.  If you fancy him to have a bad week there are a ton of other ways to oppose him; if Tiger has one specialty it's winning golf tournaments so if you lay him and he starts well, it's gonna be a long week.

Will try to keep this updated even if it looks horrific, I know that will give plenty of readers some enjoyment Silly
By:
hologon
When: 13 Jul 10 19:48
this will be the read of the week good luck to all
By:
DaVinci I
When: 13 Jul 10 19:54
Ferking hell KR, knew you liked a punt from reading your posts, but didn't realise how much Shocked

I actually quite fancy G-Mac this week, but can understand your point about his price.

This should be a great read this week............. and can I just reiterate Good Luck to all.
By:
Alfie Green
When: 13 Jul 10 19:55
7.6 for Tiger to win starting off early on Thursday in calm damp conditions....thats my starting play.
By:
frames
When: 13 Jul 10 20:05
Thanks Saxon.
Welcome aboard KR ,just like to echo DaVinci ,fecking hell  they are some figures.Look forward to following them through the week.
By:
Mighty Whites 2008
When: 13 Jul 10 20:07
I agree with your thoughts Knight Rider.

Some big reds there though!
By:
double trouble
When: 13 Jul 10 20:08
Tiger has to start turning soon, far, far too big imo.

Good luck KR, hope you and frames, and all the good guys, of which there are many on here, have a good week.
By:
celticgr
When: 13 Jul 10 20:10
clearly the golf thread of the year for regulars and all will learn something we had missed...as I am working its my must read til home time,my public will have to wait

My crossed out list is pretty much like KR plus Phil...it seems like GB and I have all the form runners but someone from the US will win,Cink again,seems a big price,Duval showed glimpses of class in big events,DL 111 goes well in this event and I for one wouldnt mind seeing a good guy like him winning....whatever wish the whales fun and thanks for the insight and education....good luck one and all
By:
par
When: 13 Jul 10 20:15
If the tabloids are to be believed Tiger has done several hundred millions to the gorgeous Elin

Depending on which rag you read it varies between 300 and 700 million.

If I had just done 300 million I would not feel like playing golf and if 700 is nearer  the truth I would be lieing in a dark room sobbing my eyes out.

Maybe his mind is strong enough to cope with these alleged deals. I do not know.
By:
Knight Rider
When: 13 Jul 10 20:16
yes DL3 is an interesting one, didn't think he would be backable this week thanks to his outstanding Open record but managed to get a fair amount at 350+.  Bigger price than Tom Watson, really??
By:
jaytay2
When: 13 Jul 10 20:46
Be nice if eddie the eagle contributed as well would deffo make it thread of the year,would understand if he did'nt thoughgood luck all
By:
Eddie the eagle
When: 13 Jul 10 21:00
I don't have much to contribute on this thread.  I've mostly been on vacation for the last 4 - 5 weeks so haven't done much in the markets during that period and is also heading to Turkey on Thursday morning and will spend 9 days there.
   Therefore I am not creating any kind of book in The Open this year.  At the moment the % is also heavy in backers favour , so this week I
will probably only be a backer of something like 5 - 8 runners.  Will try to green out during the tournament if they start well and if I can find the time to access internet.
By:
Lefty Lee
When: 13 Jul 10 21:58
This was a cracking thread last year, really enlightening, great to see it again this year!
By:
Wetherspoons
When: 13 Jul 10 22:00
Lay the fav. May everyone have a nice green book.
By:
ericthecat
When: 13 Jul 10 22:06
well could not resist the 7-1 on Tiger any longer, my first nibble on him, now dead calm and a few birdies on thursday, please;-)
By:
Wetherspoons
When: 13 Jul 10 22:10
Ditched his putter, lay him til the cows come home.
By:
bobby 1
When: 13 Jul 10 22:21
fk me just looking at that post knight rider sent a shiver down my spine. good luck sir
By:
zekial
When: 13 Jul 10 22:31
always read threads that frames and kr are involved in but never contribute.best of luck this week men, I admire your style.

for the record ive backed robert rock @700 with 50k green along dustin johnson and jb holmes.rock is in good form lately and anything over 500 is a bit of an insult
By:
plainlazy
When: 13 Jul 10 22:57
good luck frames..historically ive been a layer of tiger but his price is just too big especially round here ..so im having a hundred on him now..in the hope he makes a good start..
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