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Charley Hoffman 130s with the bookies, 380 on here. Played well this year on tight tracks, a bit perplexed by that one have had to back him a bit.
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Sorry, wrong thread. ^^^
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Just thought I'd have a quick skim read of this. I have no recollection of posting on this thread, but there I am on page 10 and I have even less memory of having a book in that tourny! July 2010 was a very hazy month, I guess that explains it. Glad I had a winning one at least
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lay off the drink Hank its making you senile hehe
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great read just spent an hour rereading this one......
i wonder if we are all gonna do this again for this years open, on a sidenote what price was louis at the start of this - when eddie bet him? 500/1? |
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yes oosty has at least 500 on here before he won
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even i ended up on oostie , i jumped on around 6 or 7/1 after Rory made is first bogey on second day, it was that win and the following 4 weeks that set me up for what i do now, and it was because of this thread. So thanks Frames,Eddie ect ;)
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What do you do now then meng?
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it gave me the funds and the confidence to make betting on the golf my main source of income, ups and downs ofcourse but more ups....so far
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frames
18 Jul 10 17:45 You can`t help but like Rory,after his 80 his advisor (Stuart Cage I think they said) pulled him aside to ask if he wanted to be interviewed about it.No hesitation in saying he did.Will win more than his share. Yeah, possibly |
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If we are blowing our own trumpets here is a classic thread which any newbies might enjoy a read.
I can't find the original one off thread which incredibly was 10 years ago(Donny might find it ).In hindsight I probably wish I never did the original thread ,it ended up being my best ever week and I never came remotely close to achieving again.As well as that a few friends read it and no doubt word spread locally and people probably got the impression that was a normal week. Anyway in this thread the golf forum legend Eddie The Eagle wins the best part of 500k. |
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Good luck this year frames...
I haven't layed anything this year as I'm off to Turkey in a couple of hours and wont get much time there to be online working on a book. Have backed a few players though just to have an interest in the tournament. My backs are Oosthuizen , Cink , Dufner , Mcneill , Dyson , A Hansen , Na , Petrovic , Kelly and Garrido. The first four being the biggest green. |
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Good morning everyone , I've got these positions at the moment :
Greens : Oosthuizen 350 k Casey 120 k Garrido 260 k Cink 360 k Dyson 45 k Na 125 k Everyone else is - 8 k Should lay off some on Oosty , but find it difficult to do so @ 4.5 when I think his price should be around 3 or even a little less than that. Found these two ,350k it seems. |
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Those are Eddie the Eagle posts from this thread.
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Eddie the eagle
Eddie the eagle 18 Jul 10 12:39 Joined: 01 Feb 04 | Topic/replies: 5,548 | Blogger: Eddie the eagle's blog new bluey , no Premium Charge for me now even if Oosty seals the deal. I paid lots of PC last year , but this year has been awful so far , so I will still be down for the year even with Oosty winning. frames , I don't think I will do anything before the leaders start playing. No pictures on telli here as far as I can see , so will either follow play on the forum or try to find a streaming , but internet connection isn't great here so doubt if it will work properly. Rate reply: Fecking hell ,still down on the year ,Eddie did have a swing or two. |
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i dont think search is working 100% at the moment frames, your thread
might also be lost due to being old format? will take a look later in the week there were some great posters on here, sadly missed!!! |
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I remember this thread the first time around. I recall be absolutely astounded by the numbers involved. It would be great for you to make another frames??
I know the liquidity was incredible back in those days but do any of you still work to the same kind of numbers? Does the market allow it these days...I know there's still quite a bit of money about in the majors still but just wondering if the figures are a distant memory of the hazy days! Can this even be achieved anymore of do the fast picture guys just mop up?? |
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Ok thanks Donny.
I won't be doing another one Sports Fan but I will answer your question ,it could be long winded but I have an hour to spare. |
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Ok here we go ,could be boring to some ,apologies.
I have been in to gambling from a very early age , throwing 2p's against a wall from varying distances in school ,very occasionally 10p's.I was fascinated with cards ,3 card brag and pontoon were the games back then.In my school days I would get one afternoon off a year ,my Dad would take me to Chester races, horses racing then joined the fascination list.My dad likes a punt on the fixed odds football coupons ,that joined the list. A treat when I was 15/16 was an hour or two in our local club ,one snooker table.I had been playing pool for a few years but quickly became hooked on snooker.I got to a reasonable standard and in my early 20's leased a snooker club.Needless to say this was gambling heaven for me.In the end cards stopped me from practicing snooker ,a game called Kalooki was played for hours on end in the club. Those were great days now I look back. Let's move on ,my forum date says I joined in Jan 2002 ( is that when I joined BF or found the forum ? Not sure).My maximum bet back then would be 100 and that was very rare.I think my first deposit was a grand ,the thought of laying horses was magical.I dabbled in football, snooker and darts.Over a few months I did the grand ,said to myself I will try another grand and if that goes so do I.I was not a winning punter on horses/football.I did win over the years playing snooker/pool and cards. Anyway I drop on to golf by accident.I used to (cough, cough) lay the odd bet in the club.I did a bit of on-course bookmaking as well back then.It was Craig Perks's Players Championship 2002 ,one of my locals backed him at 10/1 ew, I'm guessing it was the Saturday.I had a lap top behind the bar ,put the golf market on and started laying with my grand.Two days later I was overs for a grand ,how the feck did that happen ? I don't know but I was now hooked. A year or so later the night that ultimately changed my betting.I was still dabbling in football trying to find that system ,I had started laying the fav in a live football match for a few grand (I had built my bank up to around 35k by then ,mind blowing to this day for me).The idea was to get out after a few minutes ,nick a few quid if it's 0-0,hoping for the miracle early goal from the rag.The first few goes resulted in wins of around 400. I will never forget ,it was a Monday,quiet day in the club.The evening game was Blackburn at home to Everton.I layed Blackburn for about 5k early in the day,can't remember the price but I'd guess around evens.I check in about and hour or two later and they are now 1.9 (these are guesses regards the price but you will get the drift),I lay another 5k hoping the price goes back and I can get some back.Wrong they continue to shorten and by kick off Blackburn are losers for 20k+.It transpires that Everton tried to get the game called off as a flu bug had swept though the squad. You can guess the rest ,Blackburn score very early.I'm fecked ,2-0 by half time.Everton tease me and get a goal back ,Unsworth had a great chance late on but no 2-1 it finished.I remember winning 600 on a side market ,next team to score or something but I had blown around 23k.Sick is an understatement ,went home nearly in tears ,told the wife ,withdrew the remainder ,gave most to her and put the rest in savings accounts for the kids.In a year I had gone from a max 100 punter to losing over 20k on a football match. In hindsight it may be the best thing to happen to me ,I came back a month or two later with renewed concentration and a willingness to accept a red when needed. I went full time Jan 2004 ,the pre PC days were amazing for me.By full time I was doing both golf tours most week,18 hour days min Thurs,Fri and 12 hours min Sat ,Sun.If there was a snooker tournament on it was 7 days a week. I have gone on a bit ,apologies but now to the question.I cannot do anywhere near what I could back then.PC 1 was ok,PC2 killed it for me but luckily I had had the good years. The first a ONE OFF thread turned out to be my pinnacle ,I won 24k and paid 945 in commission.I have never came anywhere near to that amount since ,maybe once I have won 10k+ in the 10 years since. I tried Purple ,got banned.Dropped on a way to beat a bot ,turns out the bot must have been Purples ,how was I supposed to know ? I'm now down to the 4 majors and maybe 10-15 Euro events ,it's a hobby although my wife tells me I am now working for BF.Had my best week in a long time last week ,won 6.3k,BF will take 4k ish of that so I suppose she is right. Gone on a bit ,count myself very very lucky to have dropped on BF early. I have a file of all golf I have covered since 2004 ,rather large file with small write ups for every day.I might read it one day. The answer to your question is it can't be done these days, not sure the fast pic boys get that much in Europe these days. |
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Nice write up Frames, hard to believe the legendary Eddie win was 9 years ago now. I was gutted to lose 3k that week, looking back at the figures my total for that year at that point was still more than I've done the last 18 months. Betfair boom years are gone and they ain't coming back, and you just need to look at the forum regulars on this thread who are a distant memory to see that. It's strange that exchange betting has gone backwards when it's the best value way to bet, but I guess the general public just haven't been won over.
Certainly the days of laying and laying and laying are gone, as are the days you could back or lay to big stakes knowing you could trade out when things moved your way. These days if you pick off a big one you know you could be stuck with it so it's either risk averse or boom and bust, and personally I know I've become a lot more risk averse since the days of huge liquidity. I got almost no action going on Pebble, spent most of it bored to tears. Looking at my spreadsheet, the peak was 2011 (for obvious PC reasons), then a steady year on year decline until 2016, but year on year improvements since then, hard to say if that's me adjusting my approach or any significant change in the landscape. |
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Good read frames, thanks for posting.
I don't know why exchange betting hasn't exploded, I figure it's simply too complicated for average Joe. I've tried explaining what I do to plenty of mates who love a punt - nails on a chalkboard. Feel like I'm explaining grade 2 maths to adults and they just don't get it. Only ever managed to fully convert one former workmate who loves me for it, he's now an accountant, was studying to be one at the time. Have often wondered why they don't advertise the product, I suppose because how do you explain it in 25 seconds when regular users who know the product better than the staff can't explain it properly in 10 minutes. |
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Thank you for the write up frames and for taking the time to answer the question. I kind of figured that that must be the case these days but it does seem a shame. You would have thought there could be a decent business model for allowing exchange bets to be taken and only a "reasonable" amount of commission to be taken off the winners. Does it really cost betfair all that much now to run the exchange?? Wouldn't it be better to take a smaller cut from a much larger turnover....I guess only they know the answer to this and it just can't be the case, else they'd do it. Taking 4k off you for a 6.3k just seems ridiculous...it's too punitive...and the reason why the big players don't seem to be about now. When you look back at the old threads, there were some good characters on here, you could win big, you could lose big...that seemed to be the beauty of the exchanges at first....until they decided, you can't win big!!
It actually amazes me still how the regular punter out there is still oblivious to what betfair is.....lads that bet nearly every single day of their lives will have never heard of it...I have stopped even explaining these days as people just don't seem to understand/or want to understand it. I see lads with their Skybet or Bet365 account and will happily bet on anything...thinking the price they are offered is the only price available in the whole industry. I know we sound like old dinosaurs but it was way better back then...you risked your own money and you won or lost your own money...why that couldn't continue to be the case, I just don't understand. |
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ironic that the premium charge was rolled out as a way of funding advertising that would be
promoting the exchange to non users. then with in months betfair.com default was to direct to sports book. |
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A great read frames. Thanks for posting.
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any plans for a repeat this year?
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As BF have announced the forum closure had a quick scan through and found this old thread.
So many old forum regulars on it , Eddie and KR won about 500k between them that week , KR paid over 30k PC. Shame they have decided to close the forums for good but only the Football and Horseracing forums have daily threads these days ,the rest died a long time ago.Fair play to the few that still post. This forum was as good as any back in the day. |
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Thanks for posting. I'd never seen this thread before. Staggering amounts in some books - greens and reds. Really interesting reading. Cheers!
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We had some good times didn't we.
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I came back to this thread again last night. This time I read it in conjunction with the round summaries for the 2010 Open. I'm even more flabbergasted than before. Rory sets the lowest score on Thursday and loads of you have got massive reds on him. I can't imagine the task of trying to reduce liability on that sort of scale. I trade the golf every week, but I'm in and out, in and out, hundreds of times over at a major. I'd have a coronary watching my screen go so far into the red. I need to take a copy of this thread before the forum closes, if nothing else to remind me that there's more than one way to skin a cat.
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As the thread title suggests this was the 2nd edition.The first one ,2009 Open,I sometimes think was a bad idea.It turned out to be my best ever week and 17 years on I never came anywhere near repeating.
What an Open it was , old Tom losing to Cink in a playoff ,Westwood 3-putted 18 to finish a shot shy of being in the playoff.I know on Day 1 I had around £400 on Watson at 1000,he was my worst result at one time during the week, think he traded 1.3ish on the 18th Sunday. Fairly sure the thread got lost but someone ( Donny Osmond maybe ) did resurrect it in another thread years later , I could be mistaken though. The game has changed so much over the years as has the forum. |
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Just read the whole thing - great stuff.
Really don't know how I missed it first time around or the ttt's in 2013 and 2019 as I love golf. A fantastic read - very interesting. I started betting on PGA golf properly five or six years back and (although this last season has been poor for me) I am quite pleased the way it has gone. Normally back six or seven players before the start to hopefully lay here and there after the first two rounds. A great game to watch and nothing beats having one or two in contention on Sunday night. Thanks for giving me some food for thought for next year. ![]() |
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Ta, frames. I had a look for the thread you mentioned (or the resurrected version of it) but I couldn’t find anything, sadly. I’ll give it another go over the weekend.
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