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By:
GeorgeBrush
When: 23 Aug 24 21:11
Don't think the excitement is lasting long, was baked into the market anyway
By:
edy
When: 23 Aug 24 22:45
Robert F. Kennedy Jr

@RobertKennedyJr
President Trump scammed American workers. He promised to bring back manufacturing, raise wages, fix trade deals, close the carried interest loophole, and help small farmers. But everything President Trump achieved were things the Republican machine wanted. We got a tax cut for Jeff Bezos, deregulation for special interests, and giveaways to agriculture conglomerates.

President Trump let the Bush wing of the GOP run all his agencies. His Interior Secretary was an oil & gas lobbyist. His Defense Secretary was a Raytheon lobbyist. His EPA Administrator was a coal lobbyist. His HHS Secretary was a pharmaceutical lobbyist. And his Labor Secretary was a lawyer for mega corporations.

President Trump’s supposed support for farmers ($28 billion) all went to Big Ag conglomerates.

We had the worst rioting and looting this country had seen since the 60s under President Trump. He inflamed racial tensions and didn’t keep us safe. Instead of using federal law enforcement to stop the rioting, Trump thought it was good optics to let Democrat-run cities burn.

President Trump bragged about arming Ukraine more than Obama did. He also walked away unilaterally from the intermediate range nuclear missile treaty with Russia, destabilizing our relationship. He also exacerbated tensions between Ukraine and Russia that ultimately caused a war.

Trump appointed the worst neocons to the highest positions of power in his administration: John Bolton, HR McMaster, and Robert O’Brien. Now, Lindsey Graham is one of his top advisors and likely to be his Secretary of State.

President Trump bombed Syria, killed an Iranian general, and failed to fulfill his promise of ending the war in Afghanistan.

President Trump invented lockdowns. He shut down millions of small businesses and facilitated the greatest wealth transfer to billionaires in this country’s history.

President Trump did nothing to solve the opioid crisis. It got far worse under his tenure while his appointees running HHS were in the pocket of big pharma.

If you think a second Trump term would be any different, you are engaging in wishful thinking.
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https://x.com/RobertKennedyJr/status/1794913465594962285

What an inspirational man of true principles. Love
By:
GeorgeBrush
When: 23 Aug 24 23:35
Farcical

Especially the interview the 'running mate' did the other day lol
By:
GeorgeBrush
When: 23 Aug 24 23:35
Shameless
By:
A_T
When: 24 Aug 24 09:31
all aboard the clown car
By:
GeorgeBrush
When: 24 Aug 24 10:06
Black guy on the cnn undecided panel exposed as a trump activist
By:
GeorgeBrush
When: 24 Aug 24 10:07
They needed him mind, everyone else seemed to be voting kamala
By:
blank
When: 24 Aug 24 16:01
RFK Jr will probably still be on ballots in MI, WI, NV and NC.

.https://eu.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2024/08/23/robert-f-kennedy-rfk-jr-suspends-presidential-campaign-endorses-trump-michigan-ballot-natural-law/74923208007

.https://abc11.com/post/will-robert-kennedy-jr-appear-ballot-north-carolina-what-happens/15224454/
By:
A_T
When: 24 Aug 24 17:21
is the don still trying to get joe biden on the ballots?
By:
blank
When: 24 Aug 24 17:42
Laugh
By:
SamuelMertensBertens
When: 25 Aug 24 03:56

Aug 24, 2024 -- 4:01PM, blank wrote:


RFK Jr will probably still be on ballots in MI, WI, NV and NC..https://eu.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2024/08/23/robert-f-kennedy-rfk-jr-suspends-presidential-campaign-endorses-trump-michigan-ballot-natural-law/74923208007.https://abc11.com/post/will-robert-kennedy-jr-appear-ballot-north-carolina-what-happens/15224454/


There was some controversy on Poly about poorly written market rules, as in should this really count as dropping out when he will still be on ballots in some states. They settled as yes.

By:
blank
When: 25 Aug 24 14:45
It was weird because he said he was staying on the ballot in non-swing states and wanted people to vote for him.

Nate538's model with a net 0.3% vote shift to Trump with RFK removed, similar number to what ABC's G Elliot Morris said. It was always no big deal, more about stopping the momentum and shifting the narrative after the dem convention.
By:
KIMBLE
When: 25 Aug 24 19:57
where do we see the Don price at ko?

from memory he was 2.6 ish v Biden

but im thinking more 2.8 v Kamala

we won't be seeing the 6.0 v Hilary lol
By:
GeorgeBrush
When: 25 Aug 24 20:38
I backed him at around 15 - 16 on election night 2016.  I can't remember exactly when, i think polls had just closed
By:
GeorgeBrush
When: 25 Aug 24 20:40
Good time to ask, do we get exit polls?   I can't remember.  Or are they banned?

Do people make predictions on voting queues etc?
By:
A_T
When: 25 Aug 24 21:35
i suppose the networks "calling" the winners is an equivalent
By:
tobermory
When: 25 Aug 24 22:37
where do we see the Don price at ko?

from memory he was 2.6 ish v Biden

but im thinking more 2.8 v Kamala


Why??

Kamala's polling is nowhere near as strong as Biden 2020, and she is likely close to the biggest lead she will ever have.
By:
tobermory
When: 25 Aug 24 22:40

Aug 25, 2024 -- 8:38PM, GeorgeBrush wrote:


I backed him at around 15 - 16 on election night 2016.

By:
tobermory
When: 25 Aug 24 22:42
Sad was saying my recollection was Hilary was 1.23 start of night and came in to maybe 1.12 early on so Trump was not double figures election night. Maybe I misremembered tho'
By:
tobermory
When: 25 Aug 24 22:44

Aug 25, 2024 -- 8:40PM, GeorgeBrush wrote:


Good time to ask, do we get exit polls?

By:
tobermory
When: 25 Aug 24 22:44
lol, I don't think we do
By:
GeorgeBrush
When: 25 Aug 24 23:27
Trump was definitely double figures at some point
By:
Jack Bauer "24"
When: 25 Aug 24 23:32
https://edition.cnn.com/election/2020/exit-polls/president/national-results

They do conduct exit polls but they don't use the data to make a prediction when the polls close like they do in other countries. They use the data to provide the pundits with some further information to discuss through the night as the results come in.
By:
tobermory
When: 25 Aug 24 23:53

Aug 25, 2024 -- 11:27PM, GeorgeBrush wrote:


Trump was definitely double figures at some point


found a chit chat in running thread from the night and seems 1.08/1.09 was mentioned for the Hilary lowpoint. Also found several posts from myself predicting a Hilary landslide Blush

By:
GeorgeBrush
When: 26 Aug 24 00:16
Yeah, it was a pretty short time, but the money buyers were out for hilary.  I must have been thinking of 12 ish for trump.

I hadn't even been involved in the market, just saw it a scooped up a bit as a hedge against the horror of him winning lol
By:
blank
When: 26 Aug 24 00:44
RCP have Trump at 46.9%, 538 at 43.7%, RacetoTheWH at 45.2%, when you factor in undecideds it brings it in-line or higher than his 2016 and 2020 results. It's hard to believe he is still being under-polled with these numbers.
By:
blank
When: 26 Aug 24 02:46
My KO guess is Don at 6/4. Models are around 54/46 but I'm squeezing a bit more for Kamala based on cash, ground organisation and how the campaigns have gone since she joined the race.
By:
GeorgeBrush
When: 26 Aug 24 08:20
Not much poll action, just activote Kam +6
By:
GeorgeBrush
When: 26 Aug 24 10:06
Trump being fluffed on poly, new accounts backing at 200k a time.  So transparent
By:
blank
When: 27 Aug 24 15:41
Michael Adams, KY Secretary of State
@KYSecState
Today at 3:30, Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. filed to run for president in Kentucky. Having just completed review of his submission of signatures, we are placing him on the ballot.


Tough pill for anyone that lost on him dropping out.
By:
Jack Bauer "24"
When: 27 Aug 24 21:21
Jack Smith has filed a superseding indictment in the Jan 6 case, removing anything relating to official acts that the Supreme Court ruled are immune from prosecution.
By:
Jack Bauer "24"
When: 27 Aug 24 22:22
Harris and Walz first interview on CNN, Friday 2am, UK time.
By:
blank
When: 27 Aug 24 23:23
A double interview is a bit unusual. Walz has the best favourables of anyone in the race so they must be wanting to tap into that.
By:
blank
When: 28 Aug 24 12:35
Not good polls post DNC for Kamala so far. She hasn't lost any support in polls from their previous poll but no huge DNC bump, perhaps because they're now polling Trump correctly and it's hard to knock up 2020 margins against that 45/46 support. Good news for her is that Silver's model gives her an 87% chance of winning the EC in a Dem +3 national environment, which all indicators point to rn.

It's hard to believe Haley and Michelle are still trading at 200 with 9 days until NC starts voting, that would be one for the courts to decide even if there was the political will to bring them in. They're pushing up the prices on Kamala and Trump, both now at least a 0.5% better price than Poly.
By:
SamuelMertensBertens
When: 29 Aug 24 00:20
Betfair made politics forum available again, but made it read only. But if anyone wants to check some old election threads, now you can.
By:
Jack Bauer "24"
When: 29 Aug 24 00:21
Trump is going to be fuming when he sees the latest Fox News polls. Kari Lake is getting slaughtered in her Senate race.

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By:
edy
When: 29 Aug 24 15:15

Aug 29, 2024 -- 12:20AM, SamuelMertensBertens wrote:


Betfair made politics forum available again, but made it read only. But if anyone wants to check some old election threads, now you can.


...It was available for reading the entire time (or at least for some time already) for anyone not logged in.

By:
blank
When: 29 Aug 24 17:15
Lake looks done. AZ Police union endorsed Trump last weekend and then endorsed Lake's opponent, split ticket voting in full view. Question is do they drag Trump under in those states, they're not helping turnout.
By:
tobermory
When: 29 Aug 24 20:27
Lake is a bad candidate.

Royce White is something else though lol. I'd seen this guy a few times before, had no idea he was running in the Republican senate primaries. Stunned to see he won that Scared He was a BLM activist 4 years ago, became MAGA overnight and is now to the right of Trump.
By:
tobermory
When: 29 Aug 24 20:33
Trump doesn't need help with turnout. I expect there may be more split ticket voters.

This is the point I forecast for Peak Kamala, and she is well below the 2020 Biden polling. Toss up polls in every battleground , compared to 6+ leads in most states last time.

The chaperoned interview is absolute cringe. Even a bit 'weird'.
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