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By:
RichardHughes
When: 24 Aug 15 19:44
Good numbers available for the Arsenal Liverpool game. Get over 200k on Arsenal in the 3 back boxes.
By:
seaside
When: 26 Aug 15 19:40
I have not had a bet on Betfair for months
By:
Cardinal Scott
When: 04 Sep 15 17:51

Apr 9, 2015 -- 4:28PM, InsiderTrader wrote:


You are likely to find inplay sports (non-racing) is growing. Cricket in particular. According to Alexa India is second in Betfair's percentage of visitors at 15.2% (UK is 39.3%).


Currently Alexa has Web Traffic from India to Betfair as 7.7%......the IPL was going on then but that's a huge fall.

By:
Darlo Bantam
When: 04 Sep 15 19:34
Alexa had Betfair's global rank somewhere inside the top 1400 most visited sites last September. Now down to 2516. That on the face of it seems a huge drop.

However, the UK rank is 177; and I can't see the comparative ranking from a year ago.
By:
romfordiron
When: 04 Sep 15 20:06
I'm sure that the fall in Indian traffic is exclusively down to the cricket season. There were extraordinary (exchange record) amounts matched on IPL and World Cup games, much of which must have been from Indians. More concerning that the global ranking has dropped so much.
By:
Darlo Bantam
When: 05 Sep 15 14:14
I don't tend to play many GP markets until the start of a race; but £29,000 matched after qualifying finished. Is this normal? Seems like it would be very, very low to me.
By:
Templeton Peck
When: 05 Sep 15 15:13
The IPL fell off a cliff once a bunch of Indian bookies were arrested in May.  Think it was down by over 50%.
By:
wit-ham
When: 05 Sep 15 15:20
or like me u get fed up with
what is being offered disappearing when you put a bet in
on any event all the time and i'm not a large staking player
By:
PeteTheBloke
When: 05 Sep 15 20:42
Is that a haiku?
By:
Westender
When: 29 Sep 15 10:05
Arsenal Champions League Match Odds £307k less than 10 hours before KO.

When will Paddy Power set the funeral date?
By:
Westender
When: 29 Sep 15 10:07
Zenit U19 the only match in-play and only £25k yes £25k matched on teh match odds. LaughLaugh
By:
Westender
When: 29 Sep 15 12:26
Melbourne City Cup Match

£0 yes not a penny on the correct score market
£2,452 on the match odds

Paddy Power Mgt working wonders in Exchange Destruction


No doubt Darlo Bunting and jamesbean will be on soon telling us otherwise LaughLaugh
By:
Westender
When: 29 Sep 15 12:30
HMS Betfair Exchange Ship rapidly heading towards shyte creek now.

Even the BOTs are bored to tears on here fighting over the crumbs now after Betfair ate the cake. LaughLaugh
By:
pablo-fanque
When: 29 Sep 15 13:15
Zenit U19

how much would be matched on an obscure match like this when betfair was in its hey day iyo ?
By:
Westender
When: 29 Sep 15 13:16
Knock knock

Who's there?

Dot the Bot
By:
Westender
When: 29 Sep 15 13:17
Any match in-play on its own would have been 6 figures at least
By:
pablo-fanque
When: 29 Sep 15 13:32
how long ago sine the decline in liquidity on football started west ?
By:
Westender
When: 29 Sep 15 13:39
The car started rolling backwards in 2008 and was moved to a very steep hill with handbrake released in Nov 2011.
By:
pablo-fanque
When: 29 Sep 15 13:53
I see, thanks
By:
Westender
When: 29 Sep 15 14:23
Car expected to hit the bottom of the hill by the end of 2016.

The relentless decline in liquidity quickly accelerating by the month.

Of course the man in charge of Betfair and soon to be back in charge at Paddy Power may have a change of heart but cannot see it.
By:
jamesdean
When: 29 Sep 15 15:17
Yet westbender is still here 24/7 posting fantasy figures plucked from the Beano. Instead of channeling his negativity and moaning into adapting or something positive, he continues to moan from dusk til dawn.

Liquidity is well down, no doubt. There is however still plenty to be made in the right markets. The glory days may well be over, liquidity is way down, it is a lot harder than it was. The people here the longest (and still winning) will be the ones who adapt the best, as is the case in most walks of life.

Westbender's posts smacks of, he can't make it pay so no one can.

I've highlighted the bullet points especially for you, wb.
By:
Cardinal Scott
When: 29 Sep 15 15:29
Just under 9 Million matched on a tuesday Zimbabwe Pakistan T20 fixture shows this place has not gone to the dogs despite what the moaning minnies say, I see from Alexa Brazil is now a big player here now & I'll be looking out to see if the India figure bounces up as the Ind Saffer series starts later this week, web traffic from there currently at 6.1% was 14% around spring time, IPL time.
By:
Westender
When: 29 Sep 15 18:33
jamesdean in denial and seething LaughLaughLaughLaugh

He is doomed.

Doomed I say. LaughLaughLaugh
By:
Westender
When: 29 Sep 15 18:46
If I am incorrect jamesdean post the correct figures Wink

Who's kidding who - is it me,  or is it you? (Your sister Hazel Dean)

What % on here earn the minimum wage per hour spent on Betfair?

LaughLaugh
By:
jamesdean
When: 29 Sep 15 18:47
Ah there she is, westbender just finished her shift at KFC Laugh

Where have you been, no wifi at work? Wink
By:
Darlo Bantam
When: 29 Sep 15 19:49

Sep 29, 2015 -- 12:26PM, Westender wrote:


Melbourne City Cup Match£0 yes not a penny on the correct score market£2,452 on the match oddsPaddy Power Mgt working wonders in Exchange DestructionNo doubt Darlo Bunting and jamesbean will be on soon telling us otherwise


You still haven't completed that challenge of finding a single post of mine where I believe liquidity is still on the up.

Then again, I don't know why you expect any sympathy from anyone when you admitted you can't make money because you're not first to lay scores that are no longer possible.

By:
Westender
When: 29 Sep 15 22:11
Here they come Darlo Bantam and jamesdean - the forum's Richard and Judy LaughLaugh

Both Trolls that people see a mile away with common characteristics:

1. Start making things up.
2. Changing usernames.
3. Post abuse.
4. Avoid the issues.
5. Fail to answer questions.

Two cheeks of the same arris who think the future is bright under Paddy Power Mgt LaughLaugh

Both on suicide watch when Betfair disappears as neither have a job or life. LaughLaugh
By:
romfordiron
When: 29 Sep 15 22:25
Westender, your bitterness and petulance astound me. I keep checking these threads to see if there's some serious discussion, and all I ever read is you spouting rubbish and throwing your toys out the pram.
By:
Darlo Bantam
When: 30 Sep 15 01:07

Sep 29, 2015 -- 10:11PM, Westender wrote:


Here they come Darlo Bantam and jamesdean - the forum's Richard and Judy Both Trolls that people see a mile away with common characteristics:1. Start making things up.2. Changing usernames.3. Post abuse.4. Avoid the issues.5. Fail to answer questions.Two cheeks of the same arris who think the future is bright under Paddy Power Mgt Both on suicide watch when Betfair disappears as neither have a job or life.


Bit rich ain't it. I issued you a challenge (several times) and you've yet to even try and come up with an answer, instead you just resort to avoiding the issues, making things up and name calling. Just because more than one person disagrees with you, doesn't mean they're in cahoots - it's called reasoned debate. I wouldn't mind some reasoned debate but I fear it's a lost cause where you're concerned. As for suicide watch, I'm not the one who constantly complains about the drop in liquidity, constantly complains about some non-descript match not being in-play on the exchange or constantly complains that it's not possible to make a minimum wage from Betfair.

Anyway, mr romford summed it up far more succinctly.

By:
Westender
When: 30 Sep 15 09:38
I am not the one who relies on Betfair for an income or life LaughLaughLaugh

As said before, huge numbers of people have adapted to the Paddy Power Exchange destruction - they now bet elsewhere or spend their money on the plethora of non betting activities adding some value or pleasure to their lives.

I accepted Betfair was finished over 2 years ago so I suggest jamesdean/Darlo Bantam do the same as the sea of empty boxes grows by the week. LaughLaugh
By:
romfordiron
When: 30 Sep 15 09:49
If you don't make money on Betfair and have no aspiration of doing so in the future, why are you always on these sorts of forum threads? Stick to the 'double your money', 'all in on XY or Z' or 'so and so cannot lose' threads if it's just a social outlet.

Why do you even care if liquidity is down and punters are leaving if you don't rely on the exchange for income?
By:
Westender
When: 30 Sep 15 09:56
Responding to others who care and looking for answers Wink

I have the odd bets here but only about 1% of what I was betting 3 years ago.

Accept and move on.

Get on other thread with your positive changes to the Exchange
By:
Darlo Bantam
When: 30 Sep 15 10:10
I have the odd bets here but only about 1% of what I was betting 3 years ago.

Yet, it's you, not anyone else, who complains that really rather random matches aren't in play, like Zenit Under 19s and a Melbourne Cup match; strange matches to complain about if you're only having a random bet. And secondly, someone only having an odd bet shouldn't really be too bothered that he can't lay impossible scores any more - unless your only odd bets are simply hoovering up impossible money.

Accept and move on.

Bit rich, given your own complaints. I suggest you do the same, accept what has happened and move on, and stop complaining and complaining and complaining. Because those complaints are achieving nothing.
By:
Westender
When: 30 Sep 15 16:21
Here comes Judy again

I pointed out certain matches are in-play exclusively on the Spudsbook and not the Exchange given examples of this happening more and more as people don't notice or believe it. The Darlo Bunting somehow thinks I am betting on them as well as laying impossible scores at 1000/1 when I stated the layer does not have the 12 second delay and likely to be Betfair at work in response to another post. LaughLaugh

This forum is dead as people no longer waste their energy on Betfair - they just leave Betfair altogether and spend their money elsewhere.

Given I started another thread about IMPROVEMENTS to the Exchange under Puddy Flower, I expect to see hundreds of posts from you pointing out the improvements.  How many so far - the square root of zero and it will be the same 1 year from now if forum not closed as expected. LaughLaugh

There is more chance that the Queen goes on the pitch before a match at Bradford and farts into a microphone.

Paddy Power eat the whole cake now and throw the crumbs on the floor for the BOTs to argue over.

Accept it is all over and move on. LaughLaugh
By:
Westender
When: 30 Sep 15 18:01
I will bump my thread on the general forum on 30 Sept 2016 and leave jamesdean/Darlo Bantam to fantasise about Paddy Power returning the BETTING EXCHANGE to the glory days.

I have moved on and Betfair in a coma is really not worth arguing about these days - it is a dead duck floating waiting on the pond drying up completely before removal.

Good luck all.
By:
rink rat
When: 30 Sep 15 18:40
Baseball 1 and 2 teams in prime UK timeslot, 2455 USD matched. Seeders must be on reduced hours today.
By:
fixed
When: 30 Sep 15 21:06
meaningless game one week from playoffs as part of a doubleheader that had been scheduled on the fly last night...so basically nobody knows there even is a game right now


absolutely stunning to see how even half-smart people can constantly get this sample size thing completely wrong
By:
henryluca
When: 05 Oct 15 05:25
Yet westbender is still here 24/7 posting fantasy figures plucked from the Beano. Instead of channeling his negativity and moaning into adapting or something positive, he continues to moan from dusk til dawn.

Liquidity is well down, no doubt. There is however still plenty to be made in the right markets. The glory days may well be over, liquidity is way down, it is a lot harder than it was. The people here the longest (and still winning) will be the ones who adapt the best, as is the case in most walks of life.

Westbender's posts smacks of, he can't make it pay so no one can.


Jamesdean

Agreed..actually think he is the former poster starting with Z
By:
Cardinal Scott
When: 20 Nov 15 17:57
With £28 million and counting matched on today's Pak v Eng 1dayer looks like cricket markets are still liquid but I remember this time last year Pak v NZ 1dayers were drawing £50 million+
By:
Westender
When: 21 Nov 15 21:39
Thick henryluca has failed to see that the crumbs left on the Exchange are no longer worth the effort.

Q What % of people on here now earn THE MINIMUM WAGE PER HOUR ON BETFAIR?

A After winners taxed between 22.5% and 62.5%, Betfair BOTs skimming, increases in commissions, Sportsbook the default page and customers leaving in droves by the month - less than 0.02%.

The other 99.98% would spend their time better flipping burgers on the minimum wage as they would earn more money.

Paddy Power Mgt has strangled the Exchange of liquidity and it will disappear 2 years post takeover by Paddy Power.

Adapt to that henryluca as your Exchange Betting days are numbered. LaughLaugh
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