Yes the price on Spurs is ludicrous, but Unders may well come in as well (provisionally i think it my go to about 2.1 - 2.15) however no liquidity at the moment.

Unders in Bayern - Real Madrid could certainly take a beating, the price seems a bit high; not sure about the Chelsea Barca Unders though, compared to the 2.4 that was available for Milan Barca in the QF.

Also looking ahead to next weekend, i thought Unders on Bolton Swansea would be slight odds-on, but may well be a lot higher and i see that coming in.

I'm also keen on a couple of nice looking European League games next weekend that may well steam, i'm not sure about liquidity though, it can be variable: i'll Tweet them to you Smithy closer to the weekend if the market looks fine.

hi guys thanks for input. U.A  mate got to disagree with the tottenham bet. earlier in season 1.8 -1.9 would of been fair but they really are not good so 2.2 is a more realistic price but whether it will drift only time will tell. your right about the arsenal and liverpool prices though at qpr both odds on. if i remember correctly arsenal went 1.65 into 1.55 and liverpool drifted 1.75 out to 1.95 away at qpr.

yeh i've got to agree andriy more confident of the bayern unders than chelsea vs barca always be way of goals when barca play.
my twitter is phil_smith91 so nice one mate

GL, not going in just yet but will have a look tomorrow.

Who might be the oldest forumite?

bitter blade?

ano bit bitter that might be because he been on since 2005 and still in loss

thanks sweetchildofmine that could become very useful

ten minutes till kick off..looks like im going in play, oh well never mind

youve still got a free bet though..some punters would kill for that position

out at 7.4 for 4 ticks profit...price strangely held up tonight even after the goal

6.6

yes mate i noticed would have to be a profit pre off for me though no in play bets anymore. i am making enough without having the big risk attached.

on the other hand if it drops its by 20 ticks every time and not 1 or 2 like unders so can see why it would work

its a measure of how well it works though when im actually disapointed to take ''only'' 40 ticks profit

wow 1/4 away you'd expect them to drift to 1.35 but i dunno i reckon a lot of people will still back them at any given price. lay tottenham is better no wins in last 7 away games

yeah theres very little downside laying spurs at that price...no way are they going to start odds on, so worst case scenario break even or tiny red, but i can envisage maybe 2.18

haha two of last unders bets see £90 quid worth of green go begging. oh well still much more to get on this week. what do people reckon of trading unders in chelsea vs barca currently 2.1 not that keen tbh at that price. might monitor price tommorow and if it heads towards 2.2 will probs invest if not no bet for me. can you really trust barca with an unders trade i'm not to sure

like your thinking andriy probably guna leave under 2.5 myself unless it drifts at sumpoint tommorow heading for 2.2+. not taking 2.1 its not good enough.

good trading opportunities will find us no need to force the issue

and also yeh come on barca!!!!

Not too sure Arsenal should be 2.12 against Chelsea on saturday after that performance last night but i guess a lot depends on tomorrow night so will wait until after that.

Good evening Smithy91,
Excellent thread mate. Just found it - despite this being a new a/c for syndicate purpose - I have been trading on here for 7 years but work full time. Absolutely no ambition to do this full time as I really enjoy working and love the dynamics of teamwork. I just wanted to say well done on your pre match trades which is something I have been doing for 2 yrs now with "Reasonable" success. I also look at the CS market for trading with scores I feel out of line. Laying unquoted and backing it is a regular feature for me. Funnily enough I also think the QPR V Spurs game is a stand out lay on match odds and layed @ evens 2 days ago - I think your 18 tick movement is difficult to achieve on a regular basis and I look to lay off 5-6 tick profit. If it is OK with you I am happy to contribute with what I feel are value pre match trades. I wish you well my friend. Cheers. Keep up the good work.

No prob. I will be happy to contribute as and when. Yes laying unquoted has to be selective - I would never touch a high odds game and generally speaking I am green within 10 mins max. I also look to trade Horses pre off generally back to lay and study the timeform in running cards for horses that trade lower in running on a very regular basis - again I look to be out before the race - I do like going in play on various sports as the value can be so good and often there is opportunity to trade. My first insight in to trading was " don't be afraid to lose". By that I mean there is so much value in laying low and backing high in play -the small losses are inevitable and there are too many to mention for me - but on the flip side - there are the memorable trades that went according to plan - just an example - last week 20 minutes in to the Southampton reading game I backed the over 3.5 goal market for £70 profit with a liability of £15. I really was prepared to accept the loss but prepared to trade anything from £30 profit. Once it was 2-1 I was out with £55 -there is little downside if you lay low back high - you cannot go far wrong. So yes I trade pre off - stress free but in play is also stress free if you go against the grain. Good luck. Will speak soon.