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By:
ProPunta
When: 27 Apr 09 15:13
Watching the IR prices used to cost me a lot of money - if I had a lay in the race and it seemed to be going well (looking at prices) I would try to re-back/red up. ending up with the original lay losing but having a red book . Try not to watch via interface - every lay looks like its going in :-)
By:
citizen kane
When: 27 Apr 09 15:14
steve are you doing this full time?
By:
ProPunta
When: 27 Apr 09 15:14
nice when they go 1000 though ;-)
By:
ProPunta
When: 27 Apr 09 15:15
citizen kane 27 Apr 16:14
steve are you doing this full time?


Well - I havent got a job if that's what you mean ;-)
By:
supersavo
When: 27 Apr 09 15:58
shame about the last one, but ahead on the day so far :-)
By:
1977
When: 27 Apr 09 16:25
Yep - was going well there. Cant expect to win them all though mate. We're only trying to win more than we lose.....not win every single bet we place ! ;-) As long as we turn a profit in the long run thats all that counts :-)
By:
supersavo
When: 27 Apr 09 16:32
yep thats the nature of the beast !! 2 steps forward 1.5 steps back ;-)

handy break in the schedule, so at least evening meal prepared now.....
By:
1977
When: 27 Apr 09 17:41
Cant believe Carleton Windsor 6.55. Layed it at 8.37 (ave) this morning expecting it to drift - but now it's trading @ 16.5. unreal drift.
By:
supersavo
When: 27 Apr 09 17:54
yep i looked at it when the afternoon stuff finished and according to my notes it was 9.2/9.6, so i thought it was safe to leave till nearer off. Thought about plaice laying it, but that is tempting fate, so will just have to watch this one.
By:
supersavo
When: 27 Apr 09 18:00
well done again today steve
By:
ProPunta
When: 27 Apr 09 18:11
supersavo 27 Apr 18:54
yep i looked at it when the afternoon stuff finished and according to my notes it was 9.2/9.6, so i thought it was safe to leave till nearer off. Thought about plaice laying it, but that is tempting fate, so will just have to watch this one.


Not to worry mate - I think that quite a high % of my lays shorten nearer the off so waiting at late as possible isn't a bad strategy. You will miss the occasional lay as price will be too big but on the other hand you will make good savings on some of the real shorteners if they win and you will also make extra profit in takings - the shorter you lay!

My dad also lays my selections and did exactly the same as you and thought he would wait until nearer the off - instead of giving it a miss he layed IR and managed to get 7.6!! So its up to you really mate.
By:
ProPunta
When: 27 Apr 09 18:32
Monday 27th April 2009

Starting Bank: £5,000
Bank: £6,804.37
Bank High: £6,804.37


Today's Selections:


Towcester:


2.40 Menelaus 4/1 L ;-) ***Withdrawn as a selection - :-( *** last time I do it!!
3.40 Guns Of Love 4.7 £54.28 3/1 L ;-)
4.10 Spider Boy 7.0 £40.71 5/1 L ;-)
4.40 Crank Hll 4.2 £61.07 11/4f W ;-(


Newcastle:

3.20 Bateleur 6.6 £40.71 11/2 L ;-)
4.20 Barney McGrew NR


Plumpton:

3.00 Most Definitely 4.8 £54.28 7/2 L ;-)
4.00 Lowe Go 9.6 £27.14 8/1 L ;-)
4.30 Walton Way 3.35 £67.86 2/1 L ;-)


Southwell:

6.10 Handsinthemist 8.0 £33.93 6/1 L ;-)


Windsor:

6.55 Carleton 8.35 £33.93 12/1! L ;-)




Todays Takings: £352.84 Less 5 % Comm. £335.19
Todays Losses: £195.42
Profit/Loss: £139.77
£6,804.37

Level Stakes:
Todays P + L 4.40 Points
Total P + L +68.21 Points

Todays Strike Rate 89%
Total Strike Rate 89%
By:
ProPunta
When: 27 Apr 09 18:35
Total SR 158-178 88.76%
By:
hasty
When: 27 Apr 09 18:45
outstanding steve w.d.
By:
Twiglets
When: 27 Apr 09 19:26
Not a bad read that wd steve ;)
By:
ProPunta
When: 28 Apr 09 12:40
Tuesday 28th April 2009

Starting Bank: £5,000
Bank: £6,804.37
Bank High: £6,804.37


Todays Stakes Increase to:


Prices below 3.5: lay to 1% of bank - backer's stake £68.04
Prices from 3.6 to 4.5 lay to 0.9% of bank - backer's stake £61.23
Prices from 4.6 to 5.5 lay to 0.8% of bank - backer's stake £54.43
Prices from 5.6 to 6.5 lay to 0.7% of bank - backer's stake £47.63
Prices from 6.6 to 7.5: lay to 0.6% of bank - backer's stake £40.82
Prices from 7.6 to 8.5 lay to 0.5% of bank - backer's stake £34.02
Prices from 8.6 to 11: lay to 0.4% of bank - backer's stake £27.21


Today's Selections:

Lingfield:


2.30 Spit and Polish


Bath:

4.30 Seventh Hill
5.05 Sirens Gift


Nottingham:

6.05 Ronnie Howe


Sedgefield:

6.20 Aviation
7.20 Stagecoach Diamond
7.50 Speed Up





Todays Takings: £ Less 5 % Comm. £
Todays Losses: £
Profit/Loss: £
Bank: £6,804.37

Level Stakes:
Todays P + L
Total P + L +68.21 Points

Todays Strike Rate 89%
Total Strike Rate 89%
Wins 158 - 178 Bets
By:
ProPunta
When: 28 Apr 09 12:55

hasty 27 Apr 19:45
outstanding steve w.d.


Cheers Hasty :-)

Twiglets 27 Apr 20:26
Not a bad read that wd steve ;)


Thanks Twiglets :-)

Just waiting for it to go t*ts up ;-) Due a bad bad day soon - just so you know that I know its coming ;-) Cant keep creeping forward so nicely without the obligatory smack in the face every so often...................................................
By:
wibdib
When: 28 Apr 09 14:53
good luck
By:
SHAPESHIFTER
When: 28 Apr 09 15:00
ProPunta 28 Apr 13:55
Cant keep creeping forward so nicely without the obligatory smack in the face every so often...................................................


Here you go:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsfiD78Cy0s
By:
Rigi123
When: 28 Apr 09 18:29
Really well done today. You have an outstanding strike rate.

Rigi.
By:
supersavo
When: 28 Apr 09 18:34
seconded, outstanding again steve...

I will have to train the mrs up to do them as i might have to go back to work soon ;-)
By:
theborderfox
When: 28 Apr 09 19:31
i was thinking 2 train my missus as well! : ) she is blonde tho :(
By:
ProPunta
When: 28 Apr 09 19:34
Tuesday 28th April 2009

Starting Bank: £5,000
Bank: £7,043.52
Bank High: £7,043.52


Tomorrows Stakes Increase to:


Prices below 3.5: lay to 1% of bank - backer's stake £70.43
Prices from 3.6 to 4.5 lay to 0.9% of bank - backer's stake £63.39
Prices from 4.6 to 5.5 lay to 0.8% of bank - backer's stake £56.34
Prices from 5.6 to 6.5 lay to 0.7% of bank - backer's stake £49.30
Prices from 6.6 to 7.5: lay to 0.6% of bank - backer's stake £42.26
Prices from 7.6 to 8.5 lay to 0.5% of bank - backer's stake £35.21
Prices from 8.6 to 11: lay to 0.4% of bank - backer's stake £28.17


Today's Selections:

Lingfield:


2.30 Spit and Polish 7.8 £34.02 6/1 L :-)


Bath:

4.30 Seventh Hill 8.2 £34.02 13/2 L :-)
5.05 Sirens Gift 6.6 £40.82 9/2f L :-)


Nottingham:

6.05 Ronnie Howe 8.2 £34.02 8/1 L :-)


Sedgefield:

6.20 Aviation 5.5 £54.43 13/2 L :-)
7.20 Stagecoach Diamond £54.43 7/2 L :-)
7.50 Speed Up - Non Runner





Todays Takings: £251.74 Less 5 % Comm. £239.15
Todays Losses: £0 :-)
Profit/Loss: £239.15 :-)
Bank: £7,043.52


Level Stakes:
Todays P + L +5.70 Points
Total P + L +73.91 Points


Todays Strike Rate 100%
Total Strike Rate 89%
Wins 164 - 184 Bets
By:
ProPunta
When: 28 Apr 09 19:46
Well another good day - dodged a few bullets - 1 coming very close but still, 2nd by a nose is as good as last place if you layed it :-)


Rigi123 28 Apr 19:29
Really well done today. You have an outstanding strike rate.

Rigi.


Hey Rigi - Thanks very much mate :-)

supersavo 28 Apr 19:34
seconded, outstanding again steve...

I will have to train the mrs up to do them as i might have to go back to work soon ;-)


Good luck in that venture - I've tried to explain even the most basic aspects of laying to the mrs.....given up - now I just do the racing and leave it at that :-) Shame you may have to go back to work Dave - keep on laying, build your bank up and "this time next year you'll be a millionaire!"

theborderfox 28 Apr 20:31
i was thinking 2 train my missus as well! : ) she is blonde tho :(


Good luck in that venture ;-)
By:
Tightfisted
When: 28 Apr 09 21:47
theborderfox 28 Apr 20:31
i was thinking 2 train my missus as well! : ) she is blonde tho :(


I bet she knows how to do the smileys correctly? : 0, ;(, oo)
By:
theborderfox
When: 28 Apr 09 21:53
have you nothing better to do?:0
By:
theborderfox
When: 28 Apr 09 21:54
:0
By:
theborderfox
When: 28 Apr 09 21:56
pro do u think u have found the patience and discipline to see it out? reckon you could go a long way with this if u keep ur head
By:
1977
When: 29 Apr 09 07:30
theborderfox 28 Apr 22:56
pro do u think u have found the patience and discipline to see it out? reckon you could go a long way with this if u keep ur head


Morning Fox - yes. I have definitely stopped making stupid plays over the last few months. I have consistently layed/bet only my daily selections that I choose in the morning without betting on anything for the sake of it.

Keeping a thread like this going has has really helped with my discipline and has helped me focus on what I should be doing:-) I can't see that changing if I can continue to turn a profit, I like seeing the stakes increase too much for me to lose my discipline!;-)
By:
supersavo
When: 29 Apr 09 12:03
supersavo 28 Apr 19:34
seconded, outstanding again steve...

I will have to train the mrs up to do them as i might have to go back to work soon ;-)

Good luck in that venture - I've tried to explain even the most basic aspects of laying to the mrs.....given up - now I just do the racing and leave it at that :-) Shame you may have to go back to work Dave - keep on laying, build your bank up and "this time next year you'll be a millionaire!"


Phew.... signed off for another 2 wks today, mrs can carry on watching Loose Women for a while ;-)
By:
ProPunta
When: 29 Apr 09 12:43
Wednesday 29th April 2009

Starting Bank: £5,000
Bank: £7,043.52
Bank High: £7,043.52


Todays Stakes Increase to:


Prices below 3.5: lay to 1% of bank - backer's stake £70.43
Prices from 3.6 to 4.5 lay to 0.9% of bank - backer's stake £63.39
Prices from 4.6 to 5.5 lay to 0.8% of bank - backer's stake £56.34
Prices from 5.6 to 6.5 lay to 0.7% of bank - backer's stake £49.30
Prices from 6.6 to 7.5: lay to 0.6% of bank - backer's stake £42.26
Prices from 7.6 to 8.5 lay to 0.5% of bank - backer's stake £35.21
Prices from 8.6 to 11: lay to 0.4% of bank - backer's stake £28.17


Today's Selections:


Southwell:


2.30 Backfromthecongo
3.05 Maclean
4.10 Share My Dream


Pontefract:


3.30 Society Music
5.15 New Beginning


Ascot:


5.05 Mister Ross


Kempton:


6.50 Bramlea
9.20 Rose Bien


Kelso:


7.00 Currahee
7.30 Snowy

Good Luck Today
:-)





Todays Takings: £ Less 5 % Comm. £
Todays Losses: £
Profit/Loss: £
Bank: £7,043.52

Level Stakes:
Todays P + L
Total P + L +73.91 Points

Todays Strike Rate
Total Strike Rate 89%
Wins 164 - 184 Bets
By:
GazzaB
When: 29 Apr 09 13:54
cracking performance so far Steve. I'm paper trialling a lay bet selection framework at the moment and may go live in a few weeks if it delivers. I'm watching your thread with interest in particular the staking as I'm not sure what staking I'll be using. I'm toying with the idea of a reverse Maria, ie lower stakes for lower odds and higher stakes for bigger odds working on an assumption that the higher priced horses should win less often. I wonder what that would do to your P&L if applied to your results so far? What's the average price of your losing bets?

I also like the look of the 123 6 pack staking as suggested on another thread as this would boost a profitable plan with a good strike rate and recover the inevitable losing bet losses quicker.

keep it up mate.

Gary
By:
ProPunta
When: 29 Apr 09 14:01

supersavo 29 Apr 13:03
supersavo 28 Apr 19:34
seconded, outstanding again steve...

I will have to train the mrs up to do them as i might have to go back to work soon ;-)

Good luck in that venture - I've tried to explain even the most basic aspects of laying to the mrs.....given up - now I just do the racing and leave it at that :-) Shame you may have to go back to work Dave - keep on laying, build your bank up and "this time next year you'll be a millionaire!"


Phew.... signed off for another 2 wks today, mrs can carry on watching Loose Women for a while ;-)


Nice one mate - trouble is the longer you are not at work.....the less you'll want to go back !!! :-)
By:
ProPunta
When: 29 Apr 09 14:16


GazzaB 29 Apr 14:54
cracking performance so far Steve. I'm paper trialling a lay bet selection framework at the moment and may go live in a few weeks if it delivers. I'm watching your thread with interest in particular the staking as I'm not sure what staking I'll be using. I'm toying with the idea of a reverse Maria, ie lower stakes for lower odds and higher stakes for bigger odds working on an assumption that the higher priced horses should win less often. I wonder what that would do to your P&L if applied to your results so far? What's the average price of your losing bets?

I also like the look of the 123 6 pack staking as suggested on another thread as this would boost a profitable plan with a good strike rate and recover the inevitable losing bet losses quicker.

keep it up mate.

Gary


Alright Gary

Thanks a lot mate :-)

That is interesting - but with this staking plan, ie having 7 price brackets you are in effect laying the shorter prices to lose less, and the longer prices to lose more. I know the stakes are bigger when laying lower prices but the liabilities are actually smaller. So in effect doing the same thing as you mention ;-)

Steve
By:
ProPunta
When: 29 Apr 09 14:20
I also like the look of the 123 6 pack staking as suggested on another thread as this would boost a profitable plan with a good strike rate and recover the inevitable losing bet losses quicker.

I did see this on another thread - I think he bets in series of 6. ie

1st 6 x 1 point
2nd 6 x 2 points
3rd 6 x 3 points

I think he does this until he has recouped his losses from previous cycles. TBH I haven't tried this but it may be worth having a look at. I may run it over a few bets and see out of interest.

Steve
By:
supersavo
When: 29 Apr 09 16:05
blimey big drift on mr ross, will have to put an i/r lay in at 8.6 and hope it gets a bite
By:
ProPunta
When: 29 Apr 09 16:19
Yes couldnt believe it - got matched @ 10.5 this a.m. thought it was going to drift but that took the pi55! :-)
By:
1977
When: 29 Apr 09 19:31
Don't know what's been going on today but all the selections today bar a couple have drifted like crazy. Mister Ross in the 5.05 Ascot was 7.8 this morning and went off with a BSP of 20.0! and Backfromthecongo in the 2.30 Southwell drifted from 9/2 to 8/1! Too many layers ;-)
By:
supersavo
When: 29 Apr 09 19:47
I got lucky and layed backfrothecongo @ 5.6 !! others i laid, then they shortened... swings and roundabouts i guess..... though we dont have to worry too much when the bloke picking the horses is so good :-)

I started following properly the day you had 3 winners, saturday i think, so was playing catch-up a bit but nicely ahead now, long may it continue..
By:
supersavo
When: 29 Apr 09 19:50
been good discipline as well, just sticking to these *

* apart from when the little NH stable near me has some runners and i have to have a little dabble ;-)
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