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By:
geordiemidland
When: 09 Jul 09 20:15
better luck t/morrow steve good luck to you
By:
betfarian
When: 10 Jul 09 03:54
Been away for a week plus. Glad to see you back, steve. Goodluck
By:
montydog
When: 10 Jul 09 10:52
Re Roger Oasis who only lays £2 on each horse. Isn't it impossible to make a profit that way unless every tip on the day wins?

Because my bank is pathetically small I lay to lose the same ammount on each horse ie £15 or £20. I'm not sure if you can make a profit like this either. Can anyone assist?

Numerically challenged.
By:
LAY FOR TODAY
When: 10 Jul 09 11:11
STARTING BANK OF 100 EURO'S - DO ONE BANKER BET WEEKLY - BACK MINIMUM ODDS OF 1.20 (1/5) OR LAY MAXIMUM ODDS OF 21.00 (20/1) - NO MORE THAN A MAXIMUM OF 52 BETS OVER A YEAR, AVERAGING 1 BET A WEEK - ALL-IN WITH THE FULL BANK EACH TIME - AT THE END OF THE YEAR YOU SHALL HAVE NO LESS THAN 150,000 EURO'S IN YOUR BANK.

ANY SPORT CAN BE USED - FOOTBALL , BASEBALL , BASKETBALL , TENNIS , HORSE-RACING , ETC , ETC , ETC ETC.
By:
racing green
When: 10 Jul 09 11:43
montydog - here's the realistic answer to your question!

The no. of lays put up is around 613 and the level stakes profit at industry SP is about 175pts.

At 5% commission you are losing 27pts in commission on the 540 or so successful lays.

The average losing decimal odds is 6.6 (at industry SP). Adding an extra 0.4 to make the average odds 7.0 at betfair SP to factor in the differential between industry and betfair SP and you are left with around 60pts net profit.

If the average no. of selections is 6 per day and the average 0.5% of backers stake is used, the expectation based on the above is a growth of 0.3% bank growth per day. Compounding that up on a daily basis would yield around a 100% bank growth over the course of the year. So you would double your bank.

Simples!
By:
montydog
When: 10 Jul 09 12:10
thank you
By:
racing green
When: 10 Jul 09 12:19
Apologies made a calculation error.

Its 120pts profit not 60pts from the 613 bets so far factoring in commission and +0.4pts for BSP.

So your daily bank growth is around 0.6% which would yield 800% profit on your bank over a year.
By:
1977
When: 10 Jul 09 13:36
Look just refrain from posting if all you wish to do is have a dig because of a losing day.

Anyone who follows day in day out knows that laying is a long term investment - not a get rich quick scheme!

Strange how there are no posts when things go well but a hell of a lot as soon as there is a losing day.

Anyway, we all know that things turn around so no worries!

Todays lays to follow.

Steve
By:
1977
When: 10 Jul 09 13:42
Day 91

Friday 10th July 2009


Todays Selections:

Ascot:


3.00 Sweetheart
4.10 Cape Rock


York:

3.20 Johannes
5.05 Top Bid


Newbury:

6.50 Lord Theo


Chepstow:

7.35 Prince Rossini
8.05 Bere Davis
8.40 Viking Spirit


Chester:

7.45 Red Rossana
9.20 inspirana


Good Luck

Steve
By:
Escapee
When: 10 Jul 09 13:52
what are the results for yesterday ?

To the haters... grow your own cahunas instead of trying to kick someone elses
By:
racing green
When: 10 Jul 09 13:54
'So your daily bank growth is around 0.6% which would yield 800% profit on your bank over a year.'

No digs coming from here. GL for today.
By:
Frankie The Hustler
When: 10 Jul 09 13:55
Good luck Steve...

Agree with your comments
By:
Midas
When: 10 Jul 09 13:57
Form is temporary and class is permanent - Steve has nothing to prove.
By:
mickdick
When: 10 Jul 09 14:01
how high are ya plannin on gettin ur bank b4 ya start takin sum out.well dun so far,
By:
sanddancer
When: 10 Jul 09 14:25
Good start mate, ignore the negative comments - some people can't help themselves :)
By:
citizen kane
When: 10 Jul 09 16:53
steve i hope all the peeps that are giving you negative posts are the ones who loses on ur selections serve them right lol.its a marathon not a sprint.
By:
citizen kane
When: 10 Jul 09 16:53
steve i hope all the peeps that are giving you negative posts are the ones who loses on ur selections serve them right lol.its a marathon not a sprint.
By:
Amberblack
When: 10 Jul 09 17:03
The only knockers to take notice of, are those down the towpath Steve
By:
just
When: 10 Jul 09 17:57
Amberblack 10 Jul 18:03


The only knockers to take notice of, are those down the towpath Steve


As usual, Amberblack is spot on.
By:
Frankie The Hustler
When: 10 Jul 09 20:47
Great way to bounce back steve! Congrats and thank you
By:
ardman12
When: 11 Jul 09 13:59
Any lays for today?
By:
new born
When: 12 Jul 09 14:29
Steve....Are you still having technical trouble with your automated ratings ?
By:
keep the red flag flying high
When: 13 Jul 09 12:54
towpath or lays?
:D
By:
1977
When: 13 Jul 09 13:23
Day 90

Thursday 9th July 2009

Starting Bank: £5,000
Bank: £14,456.25
Bank High: £16,460.78


Today's Stakes Remain The Same:

Prices below 3.5: lay to 1% of bank - backer's stake £164.60
Prices from 3.6 to 4.5 lay to 0.9% of bank - backer's stake £148.14
Prices from 4.6 to 5.5 lay to 0.8% of bank - backer's stake £121.68
Prices from 5.6 to 6.5 lay to 0.7% of bank - backer's stake £115.22
Prices from 6.6 to 7.5: lay to 0.6% of bank - backer's stake £98.76
Prices from 7.6 to 8.5 lay to 0.5% of bank - backer's stake £82.30
Prices from 8.6 to 9.5: lay to 0.4% of bank - backer's stake £65.84
Prices from 9.6 to 10.5 lay to 0.3% of bank - backer's stake £49.38
Prices from 10.6 to 11.5 lay to 0.2% of bank - backer's stake £32.92




Today's Selections:





Folkestone:


3.55 Green Lagonda 4.0 £148.14 3/1 W :-( (-£444.42)
5.05 Make Amends 11.0 £32.92 11/1 W :-( (-£329.20)


Newmarket:


4.20 Spring Of Fame 6.6 £98.76 9/2 W :-( (-£553.05)


Epsom:


6.20 Penang Cinta 3.45 £164.60 9/4f L :-)
8.30 Rock Anthem 7.0 £98.76 6/1 L ;-)


Doncaster:


6.40 Agglestone Rock 7.0 £98.76 8/1 L ;-)



Todays Takings: £362.12 Less 5 % Comm. £344.01
Todays Losses: £1,326.67
Profit/Loss: £982.66
Bank: £13,473.59

Level Stakes:
Todays P + L -5.60Points
Total P + L +187.05 Points

Todays Strike Rate 50%
Total Strike Rate 88.62%
Wins 539 - 611 Bets
By:
Trill
When: 13 Jul 09 13:27
keep your gead up mate, stil a cracking strike rate and the winners like that will always occur at some point
By:
Escapee
When: 13 Jul 09 13:28
Todays Takings: £362.12 Less 5 % Comm. £344.01
Todays Losses: £1,326.67
Profit/Loss: £982.66
Bank: £13,473.59


Maths seems a little off here PP
By:
Trill
When: 13 Jul 09 13:28
*edit* head not gead!!
By:
1977
When: 13 Jul 09 13:41
Afternoon

Hope everyone had a good weekend.

I had the whole weekend away from the pc which I think is a good refreshing thing to do now and again.

I'm chomping at the bit now raring to go and lay lots of losers :-)


Todays Selections:


Newton Abbot:

2.45 Mhilu
3.15 Super Ross
3.45 Spare Change
4.15 Dark Energy


Ayr:

5.00 Sion Hill


Windsor:

6.30 Dancing Wave
7.30 Diktalina


Wolverhampton:

7.50 Spic N Span
8.50 Carleton

Good Luck

Steve
By:
Midas
When: 13 Jul 09 13:43
Steve, are you updating the great results from Friday later? Crazy how the last one won again, strange but random quirk!
By:
1977
When: 13 Jul 09 13:44
Escapee

Why's that? I realise I forgot to change the profit at the top but those calcs seem ok?

Steve
By:
Frankie The Hustler
When: 13 Jul 09 13:45
Good luck Steve
By:
Escapee
When: 13 Jul 09 13:47
Profit/Loss: £982.66

maybe I'm wrong but it looks like you've written it down as a profit and I suspect you lost that day
By:
1977
When: 13 Jul 09 13:52
Escapee 13 Jul 14:47
Profit/Loss: £982.66

maybe I'm wrong but it looks like you've written it down as a profit and I suspect you lost that day


It's pretty obvious it's a loss.

3 losing lays from six is never going to be a winning day is it.


Steve
By:
1977
When: 13 Jul 09 14:06
Hi Midas

Yes I am mate. As u know I was away for the weekend, got pretty despondent re all the cr8p on the thread.

Anyway I'm going to be posting everyday again now and also going to do my bets to update every night as I know it gets a bit messy otherwise.

Cheers Midas

Steve
By:
1977
When: 13 Jul 09 14:10
Frankie The Hustler 13 Jul 14:45
Good luck Steve



Hi Frankie

Cheers Mate

Shame about Mhilu in the 2.45. Backed in from 9.0 on BF early doors so THEY KNEW! :-)

Steve
By:
Trill
When: 13 Jul 09 14:10
steve

i know is difficult to ignore people who come on and give you stick, but it all comes down to jealousy.

you post your bets before the races and you have grown your bank more than those who critisize could ever do.

keep up the good work

all the best for today
By:
Nutmeister
When: 13 Jul 09 14:12
Here's another one with a weight of £££ behind it Steve. Good Luck.
By:
sanddancer
When: 13 Jul 09 14:13
Good luck Steve, Cheers
By:
AL BUNDY
When: 13 Jul 09 14:33
Started reading this after 42 pages.............

THe bird has flown for me, but will keep on following you!
By:
blackout
When: 13 Jul 09 14:43
keep gong steve = your pofit says it all
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