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81 from 943 ( @ 10.91 )( - 7% ROI )
Twente v PSV 0-0 @ 14 / 0-1 @ 11.50 / 3-0 @ 38 Kryliya Sovetov v Lokomotiv 0-2 @ 15 / 1-0 @ 9 / 2-0 @ 18.50 Zenit St Petersburg v Tomsk 1-0 @ 6.80 / 0-0 @ 15 / 3-0 @ 10 |
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clearly not gunna be profitable, but will finish the 1000 bet test. Thinking perhaps the only consistently obtainable profit from such 'value' selections is to trade them pre KO.
Very often my selections are seen as value by the market and shorten in price before ko. Therefore making them ripe for trading. For example with my first 1000 bet test, if i'd layed them all as well at say 10% lesser odds, I suspect a very large percentage of them would have been matched - and therefore guaranteed profits result. The only question is would those lays that would not get matched still break even ROI overall ?????. If you want to take this route, I would suggest trading out of all positions, rather than hoping the remainder break even. Just trade out and take a loss if necessary. You may be giving up some value, but this sacrifice will massively reduce volatility, meaning your returns will be consistent. A few hundred bets should suffice to see if this works. |
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Thanks investor - thats the sort of assistance i was hoping for. Will do, and let you know how it goes.
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just to finish off the test... or should i say torture.
81 from 952 Sogndal v Haugesund 2-0 @ 15 / AnyUnq @ 7 / 3-0 @ 26 C Palace v Torquay 2-0 @ 9.20 / 3-0 @ 15.50 Barnet v Watford 2-3 @ 38 / 2-0 @ 28 Brentford v Bristol City 2-0 @ 20 Bristol Rovers v Aldershot 2-0 @ 10.50 / 3-0 @ 18.50 / 0-0 @ 14 Bury v West Brom 0-3 @ 19.50 Cardiff v Dag and Red 3-0 @ 12.50 / 0-0 @ 18 / 2-0 @ 7.80 Cork v Shamrock Rovers 1-3 @ 36 Dundalk v Bray 3-0 @ 14.50 Exeter v QPR 2-3 @ 34 / 0-2 @ 11.50 Galway Utd v Drogheda 0-2 @ 20 Gillingham v Plymouth 2-0 @ 17 / 2-3 @ 42 Hereford v Charlton 2-0 @ 28 / 0-2 @ 13 / 2-3 @ 34 Huddersfield v Stockport 2-0 @ 9.60 / 3-0 @ 16.50 Lincoln v Barnsley 0-2 @ 12.50 MK Dons v Swindon 2-0 @ 10.50 Millwall v Bournemouth 2-0 @ 9.80 / 3-0 @ 17.50 / 0-0 @ 14 Notts Co v Doncaster 1-1 @ 7.60 / 2-3 @ 42 Preston v Morecambe 2-0 @ 8.20 / 3-0 @ 13 / AnyUnq @ 6.60 Rotherham v Derby 0-2 @ 13 Scunthorpe v Chesterfield 2-0 @ 9.80 / 3-0 @ 17 Sheff Utd v Port Vale 2-0 @ 7.80 / 0-0 @ 16.50 / 3-0 @ 11 / AnyUnq @ 5.80 Shrewsbury v Ipswich 2-3 @ 38 / 1-2 @ 11.50 / 2-0 @ 25 / 3-0 @ 75 Good luck all. |
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cool, it will be interesting to see how you get on.
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Final stats of the second '1000' test
83 from 1000 ( @ 10.97 )( - 9% ROI ) started terribly, crawled its way back, but not to level... Lookin into the trading option... (looks labour intensive for very small profits so far..) also lookin for more tweaks to the spreadsheet to pinpoint value in the cs markets never give up, never give in. GL All. |
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and this is definite value, maybe worth a nibble..
Vasby v Trollhattan 0-3 @ 75 |
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Malmo FF v Hacken
2-0 @ 10 1-0 @ 7.80 OB Odense v FC Midtjylland 1-0 @ 9.60 2-0 @ 9.80 Orebro v Djurgardens 1-0 @ 7.40 2-0 @ 9.20 Viking v Molde 0-1 @ 14 Besiktas v Antalyaspor 1-0 @ 7.20 2-0 @ 6.40 3-0 @ 9.20 Aachen v St Pauli 2-0 @ 11.50 AC Milan v Juventus 2-0 @ 20 Brest v Metz 2-0 @ 16.10 ( Still tweakin & testin, ... ) GL All. |
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Interesting thread I hope you manage to make it pay
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Fuzz - The correct score market - you either love it or you hate it. I love it for the challenge, I hate it for the torture. ( I know there is value to be had, but its torture finding & proving it ! )
Long live the "Fish". |
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OB Odense v FC Midtjylland 1-0***won***
Orebro v Djurgardens 2-0***won*** Besiktas v Antalyaspor 2-0***won*** good start to version 3.1 ( 3 from 13 @ 8.40 / 93.8% ROI ) will keep it rolling... ( yeah i know i know, here we go again.. ) |
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Celtic v Arsenal
0-1 @ 8.40 3-0 @ 120 FC Kobenhavn v APOEL 0-1 @ 21 1-0 @ 6.80 2-0 @ 7.40 FC Sheriff v Olympiacos 0-0 @ 12 0-1 @ 6.60 Nottm Forest v Watford 2-0 @ 10 Sheff Utd v Leicester 2-0 @ 10 1-0 @ 8 Sunderland v Chelsea 0-1 @ 6.80 0-2 @ 7.20 2-0 @ 65 Wigan v Wolves 1-0 @ 7 Huddersfield v Brighton 2-0 @ 10 Colchester v Gillingham 1-0 @ 9 Exeter v Yeovil 2-0 @ 13 Wycombe v Southend 2-0 @ 16 GL All. |
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Best of luck.FS.
You deserve to succeed! |
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thanks Glee...
Tigre v San Lorenzo 2-0 @ 17.50 CD Marathon v D. C. United 1-0 @ 7.60 2-0 @ 9.20 Deportivo Cali v Universidad de Chile 2-0 @ 13 0-2 @ 32 |
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FC Kobenhavn v APOEL 1-0***won***
(4 from 31 @ 8 / 0.8%ROI ) Hiroshima v Oita 2-0 @ 9.20 3-0 @ 15.50 Iwata v Kawasaki 0-2 @ 16 Yamagata v FC Tokyo 0-2 @ 13 Urawa v Kashiwa 0-2 @ 48 2-0 @ 10 Yokohama FM v Omiya 2-0 @ 11 |
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FS - back into the frying pan again!
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Never left the kitchen.
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AaB v FC Nordsj
1-0 @ 9.40 Chesterfield v Notts Co 0-2 @ 15 Birmingham v Portsmouth 1-0 @ 7.63 Burnley v Man Utd 0-1 @ 7.40 0-2 @ 6.40 1-0 @ 34 Hull v Tottenham 0-1 @ 8.60 Levski Sofia v Debrecen 0-0 @ 11.50 1-0 @ 6.40 Newcastle v Sheff Wed 1-0 @ 7.40 Red Bull Salzburg v Maccabi Haifa 0-2 @ 38 2-0 @ 9.20 Liverpool v Stoke 0-1 @ 46 0-2 @ 160 1-0 @ 7.60 2-0 @ 6.20 3-0 @ 9 Lyon v Anderlecht 1-0 @ 7 2-0 @ 7.60 GL All. |
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Botafogo RJ v Santo Andre
1-0 @ 8.60 2-0 @ 9.40 Santos v Gremio 0-1 @ 17.50 1-0 @ 11 Vitoria v Atletico-PR 2-0 @ 11 |
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Barueri v Sport Recife
2-0 @ 11 3-0 @ 17.50 Internacional v Corinthians 1-0 @ 8.40 2-0 @ 8.80 Sao Paulo v Fluminense RJ 0-1 @ 30 1-0 @ 8.60 2-0 @ 9 |
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AaB v FC Nordsj 1-0***won***
Birmingham v Portsmouth 1-0***won*** Burnley v Man Utd 1-0***won*** Newcastle v Sheff Wed 1-0***won*** Santos v Gremio 1-0***won*** Sao Paulo v Fluminense RJ 1-0***won*** 10 from 69 ( @ 11 / 59.4% ROI ) |
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MFK Kosice v Roma
0-1 @ 9.20 1-0 @ 28 2-0 @ 75 FK Baku v FC Basel 0-2 @ 12.50 BATE Borisov v Litex Lovech 1-0 @ 7.40 Bnei Yehuda v PSV 0-2 @ 10 Guingamp v Hamburg 0-1 @ 7.20 0-2 @ 8.20 Breda v Villarreal 0-2 @ 11 Metalurg D v Austria Vienna 0-2 @ 50 1-0 @ 6.80 2-0 @ 8.20 Rapid Vienna v Aston Villa 0-1 @ 8.60 Steaua Bucharest v St Patricks 0-0 @ 23 1-0 @ 8 2-0 @ 6.40 3-0 @ 8.40 Dinamo Bucharest v Slovan Liberec 1-0 @ 6.80 2-0 @ 8.80 FC Vaslui v AEK 3-0 @ 46 Sivasspor v Shakhtar 0-2 @ 12.50 1-0 @ 15.50 2-0 @ 30 Slavia Prague v Crvena Zvezda 2-0 @ 10 Partizan Belgrade v Zilina 1-0 @ 7.20 2-0 @ 8.20 Lech Poznan v Club Brugge 2-0 @ 10.50 Sion v Fenerbahce 0-1 @ 11.50 0-2 @ 11.50 0-3 @ 19 Ajax v Slovan Bratislava 1-0 @ 10 2-0 @ 7 3-0 @ 9.20 Genoa v OB Odense 1-0 @ 7.40 Lazio v Elfsborg 0-0 @ 15.50 1-0 @ 7 2-0 @ 7.20 3-0 @ 13.50 Dinamo Zagreb v Hearts 1-0 @ 7.80 2-0 @ 7.20 Everton v Sigma Olomouc 0-0 @ 18 1-0 @ 7.60 2-0 @ 6.40 Fulham v Amkar 1-0 @ 7.20 2-0 @ 7 Stabaek v Valencia 0-1 @ 8.40 GL All... |
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Flamengo v Cruzeiro
0-0 @ 19.50 Nautico v Goias 0-2 @ 18 Seattle v New England 1-0 @ 7.80 2-0 @ 9.60 |
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Lazio v Elfsborg 3-0***won***
Sion v Fenerbahce 0-2***won*** Steaua Bucharest v St Patricks 3-0***won*** 13 from 119 ( @ 11.03 / 20.5% ROI ) Fredrikstad v Rosenborg 0-2 @ 12 0-0 @ 21 0-1 @ 11 Ajaccio v Strasbourg 2-0 @ 13.50 Arka Gdynia v Wisla Krakow 0-1 @ 6.40 0-2 @ 7.80 Dijon v Nimes 1-0 @ 6.60 2-0 @ 9.60 Austria Karnten v SV Ried 2-0 @ 24 Le Havre v Angers 2-0 @ 10 Nantes v Istres 1-0 @ 6.80 2-0 @ 8.40 0-2 @ 50 Standard v Charleroi 1-0 @ 8.40 2-0 @ 7.80 3-0 @ 9.80 Albinoleffe v Vicenza 2-0 @ 13 Ascoli v Gallipoli 1-0 @ 6.80 2-0 @ 6.40 0-3 @ 640 ( ??! ) Brescia v Cittadella 0-1 @ 16.50 0-2 @ 42 2-0 @ 9.40 GL All. |
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Evening Fatal, not looked in for a while. ROI looking good, you still working on tweaking the system or playing for cash now?
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Gidday Cres, this is live test no.3 - have done many many tweaks since beginning, but base theory remains. Always betting small level stakes during test.. early days in this one...
Independiente v Newells 0-3 @ 70 Juventude v Guarani (Bra) 2-0 @ 14 |
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Omiya v Chiba
2-0 @ 13.50 |
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Kryliya Sovetov v Rostov
1-0 @ 7.20 2-0 @ 11 0-3 @ 95 Niigata v Kyoto 1-0 @ 8.40 Shimizu v Iwata 1-0 @ 10 Bielefeld v Augsburg 2-0 @ 11 |
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Good stuff, will have to go back through the thread at some point see what's changed. Off to a game now.. GL
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GKS Belchatow v Piast Gliwice
1-0 @ 6.20 Freiburg v Leverkusen 0-1 @ 11.50 Mainz v B Munich 0-1 @ 9.80 0-2 @ 9.20 Nurnberg v Hannover 1-0 @ 9.80 Aris Thes. v Atromitos 0-2 @ 55 1-0 @ 5.90 2-0 @ 7.20 |
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Arsenal v Portsmouth
0-1 @ 70 2-0 @ 6.60 Brighton v Stockport 2-0 @ 9.60 Bristol Rovers v Huddersfield 0-2 @ 17 C Palace v Newcastle 3-0 @ 46 Hull v Bolton 1-0 @ 9.80 GL All. |
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17 from 165 @ 10.12 ( 4.3% ROI )
Amkar v Fulham 3-0 @ 75 FK Aktobe v W Bremen 0-1 @ 15 0-2 @ 11.50 0-3 @ 16.50 Karabakh v Twente 0-1 @ 8.80 Litex Lovech v BATE Borisov 3-0 @ 32 Sparta Prague v NK Maribor 0-1 @ 30 |
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River Plate (Uru) v Blooming
2-0 @ 8 Emelec v Zamora FC (Ven) 1-0 @ 8.60 |
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18 from 174 @ 10.19 ( 5.4% ROI )
Karlsruhe v St Pauli 2-0 @ 13.50 Besiktas v Gaziantepspor 1-0 @ 7 2-0 @ 6.40 Legia Warsaw v Polonia Bytom 1-0 @ 6.40 2-0 @ 6 Barcelona v Shakhtar 1-0 @ 11.50 2-0 @ 8.40 Millwall v Brighton 2-0 @ 10 |
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20 from 182 @ 10.06 ( 10.6% ROI )
Racing Club v Colon 0-3 @ 80 ( ^ statistically great value ! ) GL All. |
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Goood work mate keeep it up :)
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Omiya v Kashima
0-1 @ 7.60 FC Tokyo v Oita 2-0 @ 8.20 Iwata v G-Osaka 0-2 @ 18 Yokohama FM v Chiba 2-0 @ 9.40 |
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G Furth v Bielefeld
2-0 @ 17.50 H Rostock v Oberhausen 2-0 @ 10 Huddersfield v Yeovil 2-0 @ 9 Chelsea v Burnley 1-0 @ 8.40 2-0 @ 6.40 3-0 @ 7.60 |