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By:
FatalStatistics
When: 09 Aug 09 11:54
81 from 943 ( @ 10.91 )( - 7% ROI )

Twente v PSV
0-0 @ 14 / 0-1 @ 11.50 / 3-0 @ 38

Kryliya Sovetov v Lokomotiv
0-2 @ 15 / 1-0 @ 9 / 2-0 @ 18.50

Zenit St Petersburg v Tomsk
1-0 @ 6.80 / 0-0 @ 15 / 3-0 @ 10
By:
The Investor
When: 09 Aug 09 12:47
clearly not gunna be profitable, but will finish the 1000 bet test. Thinking perhaps the only consistently obtainable profit from such 'value' selections is to trade them pre KO.
Very often my selections are seen as value by the market and shorten in price before ko. Therefore making them ripe for trading. For example with my first 1000 bet test, if i'd layed them all as well at say 10% lesser odds, I suspect a very large percentage of them would have been matched - and therefore guaranteed profits result. The only question is would those lays that would not get matched still break even ROI overall ?????.


If you want to take this route, I would suggest trading out of all positions, rather than hoping the remainder break even. Just trade out and take a loss if necessary.

You may be giving up some value, but this sacrifice will massively reduce volatility, meaning your returns will be consistent. A few hundred bets should suffice to see if this works.
By:
FatalStatistics
When: 09 Aug 09 21:40
Thanks investor - thats the sort of assistance i was hoping for. Will do, and let you know how it goes.
By:
FatalStatistics
When: 11 Aug 09 12:21
just to finish off the test... or should i say torture.

81 from 952

Sogndal v Haugesund
2-0 @ 15 / AnyUnq @ 7 / 3-0 @ 26

C Palace v Torquay
2-0 @ 9.20 / 3-0 @ 15.50

Barnet v Watford
2-3 @ 38 / 2-0 @ 28

Brentford v Bristol City
2-0 @ 20

Bristol Rovers v Aldershot
2-0 @ 10.50 / 3-0 @ 18.50 / 0-0 @ 14

Bury v West Brom
0-3 @ 19.50

Cardiff v Dag and Red
3-0 @ 12.50 / 0-0 @ 18 / 2-0 @ 7.80

Cork v Shamrock Rovers
1-3 @ 36

Dundalk v Bray
3-0 @ 14.50

Exeter v QPR
2-3 @ 34 / 0-2 @ 11.50

Galway Utd v Drogheda
0-2 @ 20

Gillingham v Plymouth
2-0 @ 17 / 2-3 @ 42

Hereford v Charlton
2-0 @ 28 / 0-2 @ 13 / 2-3 @ 34

Huddersfield v Stockport
2-0 @ 9.60 / 3-0 @ 16.50

Lincoln v Barnsley
0-2 @ 12.50

MK Dons v Swindon
2-0 @ 10.50

Millwall v Bournemouth
2-0 @ 9.80 / 3-0 @ 17.50 / 0-0 @ 14

Notts Co v Doncaster
1-1 @ 7.60 / 2-3 @ 42

Preston v Morecambe
2-0 @ 8.20 / 3-0 @ 13 / AnyUnq @ 6.60

Rotherham v Derby
0-2 @ 13

Scunthorpe v Chesterfield
2-0 @ 9.80 / 3-0 @ 17

Sheff Utd v Port Vale
2-0 @ 7.80 / 0-0 @ 16.50 / 3-0 @ 11 / AnyUnq @ 5.80

Shrewsbury v Ipswich
2-3 @ 38 / 1-2 @ 11.50 / 2-0 @ 25 / 3-0 @ 75

Good luck all.
By:
The Investor
When: 11 Aug 09 14:49
cool, it will be interesting to see how you get on.
By:
FatalStatistics
When: 13 Aug 09 11:11
Final stats of the second '1000' test
83 from 1000 ( @ 10.97 )( - 9% ROI )
started terribly, crawled its way back, but not to level...
Lookin into the trading option... (looks labour intensive for very small profits so far..)
also lookin for more tweaks to the spreadsheet to pinpoint value in the cs markets
never give up, never give in.
GL All.
By:
FatalStatistics
When: 13 Aug 09 11:13
and this is definite value, maybe worth a nibble..
Vasby v Trollhattan
0-3 @ 75
By:
FatalStatistics
When: 17 Aug 09 12:52
Malmo FF v Hacken
2-0 @ 10
1-0 @ 7.80
OB Odense v FC Midtjylland
1-0 @ 9.60
2-0 @ 9.80
Orebro v Djurgardens
1-0 @ 7.40
2-0 @ 9.20
Viking v Molde
0-1 @ 14
Besiktas v Antalyaspor
1-0 @ 7.20
2-0 @ 6.40
3-0 @ 9.20
Aachen v St Pauli
2-0 @ 11.50
AC Milan v Juventus
2-0 @ 20
Brest v Metz
2-0 @ 16.10

( Still tweakin & testin, ... )
GL All.
By:
The Fuzz
When: 17 Aug 09 13:05
Interesting thread I hope you manage to make it pay
By:
FatalStatistics
When: 17 Aug 09 13:18
Fuzz - The correct score market - you either love it or you hate it. I love it for the challenge, I hate it for the torture. ( I know there is value to be had, but its torture finding & proving it ! )
Long live the "Fish".
By:
FatalStatistics
When: 18 Aug 09 00:03
OB Odense v FC Midtjylland 1-0***won***
Orebro v Djurgardens 2-0***won***
Besiktas v Antalyaspor 2-0***won***


good start to version 3.1
( 3 from 13 @ 8.40 / 93.8% ROI )
will keep it rolling...
( yeah i know i know, here we go again.. )
By:
FatalStatistics
When: 18 Aug 09 11:32
Celtic v Arsenal
0-1 @ 8.40
3-0 @ 120
FC Kobenhavn v APOEL
0-1 @ 21
1-0 @ 6.80
2-0 @ 7.40
FC Sheriff v Olympiacos
0-0 @ 12
0-1 @ 6.60
Nottm Forest v Watford
2-0 @ 10
Sheff Utd v Leicester
2-0 @ 10
1-0 @ 8
Sunderland v Chelsea
0-1 @ 6.80
0-2 @ 7.20
2-0 @ 65
Wigan v Wolves
1-0 @ 7
Huddersfield v Brighton
2-0 @ 10
Colchester v Gillingham
1-0 @ 9
Exeter v Yeovil
2-0 @ 13
Wycombe v Southend
2-0 @ 16
GL All.
By:
gleeman
When: 18 Aug 09 12:39
Best of luck.FS.

You deserve to succeed!
By:
FatalStatistics
When: 18 Aug 09 21:53
thanks Glee...
Tigre v San Lorenzo
2-0 @ 17.50
CD Marathon v D. C. United
1-0 @ 7.60
2-0 @ 9.20
Deportivo Cali v Universidad de Chile
2-0 @ 13
0-2 @ 32
By:
FatalStatistics
When: 19 Aug 09 05:33
FC Kobenhavn v APOEL 1-0***won***

(4 from 31 @ 8 / 0.8%ROI )

Hiroshima v Oita
2-0 @ 9.20
3-0 @ 15.50
Iwata v Kawasaki
0-2 @ 16
Yamagata v FC Tokyo
0-2 @ 13
Urawa v Kashiwa
0-2 @ 48
2-0 @ 10
Yokohama FM v Omiya
2-0 @ 11
By:
REM
When: 19 Aug 09 08:55
FS - back into the frying pan again!
By:
FatalStatistics
When: 19 Aug 09 10:42
Never left the kitchen.
By:
FatalStatistics
When: 19 Aug 09 13:08
AaB v FC Nordsj
1-0 @ 9.40
Chesterfield v Notts Co
0-2 @ 15
Birmingham v Portsmouth
1-0 @ 7.63
Burnley v Man Utd
0-1 @ 7.40
0-2 @ 6.40
1-0 @ 34
Hull v Tottenham
0-1 @ 8.60
Levski Sofia v Debrecen
0-0 @ 11.50
1-0 @ 6.40
Newcastle v Sheff Wed
1-0 @ 7.40
Red Bull Salzburg v Maccabi Haifa
0-2 @ 38
2-0 @ 9.20
Liverpool v Stoke
0-1 @ 46
0-2 @ 160
1-0 @ 7.60
2-0 @ 6.20
3-0 @ 9
Lyon v Anderlecht
1-0 @ 7
2-0 @ 7.60

GL All.
By:
FatalStatistics
When: 19 Aug 09 22:32
Botafogo RJ v Santo Andre
1-0 @ 8.60
2-0 @ 9.40
Santos v Gremio
0-1 @ 17.50
1-0 @ 11
Vitoria v Atletico-PR
2-0 @ 11
By:
FatalStatistics
When: 19 Aug 09 22:53
Barueri v Sport Recife
2-0 @ 11
3-0 @ 17.50
Internacional v Corinthians
1-0 @ 8.40
2-0 @ 8.80
Sao Paulo v Fluminense RJ
0-1 @ 30
1-0 @ 8.60
2-0 @ 9
By:
FatalStatistics
When: 20 Aug 09 02:53
AaB v FC Nordsj 1-0***won***
Birmingham v Portsmouth 1-0***won***
Burnley v Man Utd 1-0***won***
Newcastle v Sheff Wed 1-0***won***
Santos v Gremio 1-0***won***
Sao Paulo v Fluminense RJ 1-0***won***


10 from 69 ( @ 11 / 59.4% ROI )
By:
FatalStatistics
When: 20 Aug 09 12:21
MFK Kosice v Roma
0-1 @ 9.20
1-0 @ 28
2-0 @ 75
FK Baku v FC Basel
0-2 @ 12.50
BATE Borisov v Litex Lovech
1-0 @ 7.40
Bnei Yehuda v PSV
0-2 @ 10
Guingamp v Hamburg
0-1 @ 7.20
0-2 @ 8.20
Breda v Villarreal
0-2 @ 11
Metalurg D v Austria Vienna
0-2 @ 50
1-0 @ 6.80
2-0 @ 8.20
Rapid Vienna v Aston Villa
0-1 @ 8.60
Steaua Bucharest v St Patricks
0-0 @ 23
1-0 @ 8
2-0 @ 6.40
3-0 @ 8.40
Dinamo Bucharest v Slovan Liberec
1-0 @ 6.80
2-0 @ 8.80
FC Vaslui v AEK
3-0 @ 46
Sivasspor v Shakhtar
0-2 @ 12.50
1-0 @ 15.50
2-0 @ 30
Slavia Prague v Crvena Zvezda
2-0 @ 10
Partizan Belgrade v Zilina
1-0 @ 7.20
2-0 @ 8.20
Lech Poznan v Club Brugge
2-0 @ 10.50
Sion v Fenerbahce
0-1 @ 11.50
0-2 @ 11.50
0-3 @ 19
Ajax v Slovan Bratislava
1-0 @ 10
2-0 @ 7
3-0 @ 9.20
Genoa v OB Odense
1-0 @ 7.40
Lazio v Elfsborg
0-0 @ 15.50
1-0 @ 7
2-0 @ 7.20
3-0 @ 13.50
Dinamo Zagreb v Hearts
1-0 @ 7.80
2-0 @ 7.20
Everton v Sigma Olomouc
0-0 @ 18
1-0 @ 7.60
2-0 @ 6.40
Fulham v Amkar
1-0 @ 7.20
2-0 @ 7
Stabaek v Valencia
0-1 @ 8.40

GL All...
By:
FatalStatistics
When: 20 Aug 09 22:13
Flamengo v Cruzeiro
0-0 @ 19.50
Nautico v Goias
0-2 @ 18
Seattle v New England
1-0 @ 7.80
2-0 @ 9.60
By:
FatalStatistics
When: 21 Aug 09 12:51
Lazio v Elfsborg 3-0***won***
Sion v Fenerbahce 0-2***won***
Steaua Bucharest v St Patricks 3-0***won***


13 from 119 ( @ 11.03 / 20.5% ROI )

Fredrikstad v Rosenborg
0-2 @ 12
0-0 @ 21
0-1 @ 11
Ajaccio v Strasbourg
2-0 @ 13.50
Arka Gdynia v Wisla Krakow
0-1 @ 6.40
0-2 @ 7.80
Dijon v Nimes
1-0 @ 6.60
2-0 @ 9.60
Austria Karnten v SV Ried
2-0 @ 24
Le Havre v Angers
2-0 @ 10
Nantes v Istres
1-0 @ 6.80
2-0 @ 8.40
0-2 @ 50
Standard v Charleroi
1-0 @ 8.40
2-0 @ 7.80
3-0 @ 9.80
Albinoleffe v Vicenza
2-0 @ 13
Ascoli v Gallipoli
1-0 @ 6.80
2-0 @ 6.40
0-3 @ 640 ( ??! )
Brescia v Cittadella
0-1 @ 16.50
0-2 @ 42
2-0 @ 9.40

GL All.
By:
crescit
When: 21 Aug 09 21:58
Evening Fatal, not looked in for a while. ROI looking good, you still working on tweaking the system or playing for cash now?
By:
FatalStatistics
When: 21 Aug 09 23:49
Gidday Cres, this is live test no.3 - have done many many tweaks since beginning, but base theory remains. Always betting small level stakes during test.. early days in this one...

Independiente v Newells
0-3 @ 70
Juventude v Guarani (Bra)
2-0 @ 14
By:
FatalStatistics
When: 22 Aug 09 08:57
Omiya v Chiba
2-0 @ 13.50
By:
FatalStatistics
When: 22 Aug 09 09:21
Kryliya Sovetov v Rostov
1-0 @ 7.20
2-0 @ 11
0-3 @ 95
Niigata v Kyoto
1-0 @ 8.40
Shimizu v Iwata
1-0 @ 10
Bielefeld v Augsburg
2-0 @ 11
By:
crescit
When: 22 Aug 09 11:46
Good stuff, will have to go back through the thread at some point see what's changed. Off to a game now.. GL
By:
FatalStatistics
When: 22 Aug 09 12:44
GKS Belchatow v Piast Gliwice
1-0 @ 6.20
Freiburg v Leverkusen
0-1 @ 11.50
Mainz v B Munich
0-1 @ 9.80
0-2 @ 9.20
Nurnberg v Hannover
1-0 @ 9.80
Aris Thes. v Atromitos
0-2 @ 55
1-0 @ 5.90
2-0 @ 7.20
By:
FatalStatistics
When: 22 Aug 09 12:59
Arsenal v Portsmouth
0-1 @ 70
2-0 @ 6.60
Brighton v Stockport
2-0 @ 9.60
Bristol Rovers v Huddersfield
0-2 @ 17
C Palace v Newcastle
3-0 @ 46
Hull v Bolton
1-0 @ 9.80

GL All.
By:
FatalStatistics
When: 27 Aug 09 12:05
17 from 165 @ 10.12 ( 4.3% ROI )

Amkar v Fulham
3-0 @ 75
FK Aktobe v W Bremen
0-1 @ 15
0-2 @ 11.50
0-3 @ 16.50
Karabakh v Twente
0-1 @ 8.80
Litex Lovech v BATE Borisov
3-0 @ 32
Sparta Prague v NK Maribor
0-1 @ 30
By:
FatalStatistics
When: 27 Aug 09 20:15
River Plate (Uru) v Blooming
2-0 @ 8
Emelec v Zamora FC (Ven)
1-0 @ 8.60
By:
FatalStatistics
When: 28 Aug 09 11:32
18 from 174 @ 10.19 ( 5.4% ROI )

Karlsruhe v St Pauli
2-0 @ 13.50
Besiktas v Gaziantepspor
1-0 @ 7
2-0 @ 6.40
Legia Warsaw v Polonia Bytom
1-0 @ 6.40
2-0 @ 6
Barcelona v Shakhtar
1-0 @ 11.50
2-0 @ 8.40
Millwall v Brighton
2-0 @ 10
By:
FatalStatistics
When: 28 Aug 09 23:12
20 from 182 @ 10.06 ( 10.6% ROI )

Racing Club v Colon
0-3 @ 80

( ^ statistically great value ! )
GL All.
By:
ROB_D
When: 28 Aug 09 23:15
Goood work mate keeep it up :)
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By:
FatalStatistics
When: 29 Aug 09 09:48
^^^^ WTF ??????????????
By:
FatalStatistics
When: 29 Aug 09 09:49
Omiya v Kashima
0-1 @ 7.60
FC Tokyo v Oita
2-0 @ 8.20
Iwata v G-Osaka
0-2 @ 18
Yokohama FM v Chiba
2-0 @ 9.40
By:
FatalStatistics
When: 29 Aug 09 10:03
G Furth v Bielefeld
2-0 @ 17.50
H Rostock v Oberhausen
2-0 @ 10
Huddersfield v Yeovil
2-0 @ 9
Chelsea v Burnley
1-0 @ 8.40
2-0 @ 6.40
3-0 @ 7.60
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