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ARSENAL 2/1 TO WIN THE PREM 2024/2025
ARSENAL 2/1 TO WIN THE PREM 2024/2025
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YES SA - im on Liverpooland Barca in the CL but arsenal in champions league at 6.8 looks a bit short- theydo not have a good history in the comp.
they despearatley need a top goalscorer -ifthey got one they wd be in with a chance of wiining titles. as it stands i thinkthey will fall short in all comps |
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Arsenal just aren't creating enough chances, and from then they're not clinical enough. They look a bit leggy from last year and overly reliant on Odergaard to be the playmaker.
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Man City having a catastrophically poor season so far and Arse fail to take advantage. Must be painful being a Woolwich supporter.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOos2ESq3sU&ab_channel=ConShonnery
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 , very good. |
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On a different note, its a bit surprising Arsenal are as short as 2.96 to win the EFL cup, with the teams left in. This has to be the main target for Newcastle/Spur/ ManUtd. Arsenal & Liverpool will surely be distracted by PL & CL matches around the semi-final dates?
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I see Arsenal as more of a cup team. They may drop points due to draws, but they have a great defence and are hard to beat
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top result to beat Palace 1-5 joint second favs with Chelsea now at 7/2.
hope to Ipswich next and then away to Brentford so wd expext maxpoints from those two games although brentford cd be a bit tricky asBrentford have a very good home record |
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Saka hamstring injury means they're in worse shape than before the result imo
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They'll always give you results like this when the pressure is off. We all know what happens when it comes to squeaky bum time.
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i thought it was santa that delivered
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Mary and the 3 wise men delivered.
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1-0 win v Ipswich moves them into second and 6 points behind Liverpool who have a game in hand.
Home to Brentford on New Years day so that shd be a comfortable win as Brentford are dross on the road with 0 wins 2 draws and 7 losses. 9/2 on here currently |
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Arsenal will miss Saka. 9 points adrift and Liverppol are a better team and squad
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out to 6/1 second favs on here
9 points and 9 worse goal diff v leaders liverpool |
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Once again lay Arsenal in EFLC as short as 2.6, despite Arteta admitting he will field a weakened team with many 2nd eleven players against Newcastle. In the semi. Newcastle will be full strength and imho this is a low risk bet that should yield a decent profit in a meaningless trophy for Arsenal.
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Meaningless or best chance for silverware by far?
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Arsenal's squad looks too shallow to win the league.
Liverpool continued to win without Alisson, Konate, Trent and Jota for extended periods, whereas Arsenal seem to be in crisis whenever they have one or two players out. If Arsenal were going to win the league, they would have closed the gap on Liverpool when they dropped points against Newcastle and Fulham, but they slipped up themselves. ccd from bbc sport |
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WTF are pool playing at letting VVD and Salah spill into Jan?
They'd want to have deals signed with them both pretty quickly or it will affect them. Money shouldn't be the issue either after not spending in the summer. Makes no sense for them to allow it go on this long. |
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They're performing for new deals, let it run another month and get the title sewn up , then give them new deals
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One of the reasons L'pool are in such a healthy financial position is that they don't pay mega wages and especially not for players that could start to trough mid contract..would imagine both have agents very eager to get as much out of the club as possible..and contract length may be a sticking point as well..
the players are clearly plenty enough focused on the football and with two big prizes available (as well as domestic cups) not really a need for the club to get rinsed. |
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Liverpool turned down 200 million for Salah which looks like a good move
as he's currently best player on the planet and driving liverpools value higher. But losing 3 players for nowt would massively impact ffp implications for 3 year cycle. No doubt Madrid would welcome all 3... Meanwhile Arsenal getting back on track, but mountain to climb to catch Liverpool,... Could coast home to second place whilst resting tired limbs for a big push elsewhere, and next season. |
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Liverpool already pay mega wages to Salah. He ran his contract down to 1 year left the last time and they extended it to 3 years and gave him a 70% rise to about 360k a week. He was 30 at the time. I don't think he's looking for a similar pay rise this time, prob more to do with length than money.
I don't think letting it go on this long improves pool's bargaining position relative to the player. They will both prob receive a better wage offer and longer contract from elsewhere now, maybe more than one, if they haven't already. If you are Salah/VVD's age the next contract might be your last and biggest one. You get a bad injury before it's signed and you might not get it at all. The player has to think like this at his age. That might affect your performance as well as all the rumours and potential unrest with the fans. Seems an idiotic policy from pool. At some point very soon they'll have to sign somewhere to avoid the risk of injury costing them big. If there is no deal on the table from pool very soon it could go pear shaped for them one way or the other. |
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I certainly take your points but Salah is the one of only two players on over 180,000 and VVD is 'only' on 220,000..so they do have a sensible payroll..
They made an exception with Salah's money, he was one of the very top in the world and still is...they probably would again but he is now older and the risk of a downturn in form higher...he seems to have been very highly motivated both on the field and in the gym to get a good deal whether at L'pool or otherwise but if the demands of his agent (wage or contract length) aren't realistic (who knows ?) then they are right to do business on their terms... I don't see Madrid taking him if he becomes a free agent, not sure Barca can add another massive wage to their current financial situation and nowhere else other than Saudi is a realistic option.. currently L'pool are playing as well if not better than anyone in Europe..they hold plenty of cards themselves.. |
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Yeah, to be fair they're probably the best attacker and best centre back in the whole world right now, so paying them top dollar is hardly outrageous business. The thing Liverpool will be thinking about is what these players will look like in 30-36 months' time when they might still be on a similar wage to right now. The club might be looking at diminishing the pay and making it more incentive and playing time based while the players will be fighting against that. To be honest, I'd probably just pay it. They both look after themselves, both have a great record with injuries (apart from getting karate kicked by tiny-armed keepers) and elite players are staying at a high level far later into their careers. I don't see any sign of them waning yet and would gamble that they'd both still be first teamers in a couple of years' time.
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Or look at actual replacement cost, and then realise
paying them a fair bit more works out as an actual saving. Of course getting a fee for them is good for ffp. |
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dont forget the fans views as well. devestated if we loose such world class players
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Yep, that's likely in replacement cost, as shirt sales will be Trent, Salah, and virgil
and not many close in 4th. |
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liverpool echo reporting that mo salahs says this will be his last year
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There's a new interview with him on Sky where he says that and that he's not even close to agreeing a deal with pool, presumably recorded in the last few days. Reports PSG have offered Salah close to €500k a week for 3 years too. If you are challenging for PL and CL and they are instrumental to that, it's a no brainer to give them 3 years even if you think they'll be at the level for only 2.
If they don't announce signed deals very soon, I reckon it means that either one or both have signed elsewhere and they've agreed to keep it quiet til nearer the end of the season. If one has signed elsewhere and one is staying, they might say nothing as it would only cause speculation about the other. Every time these guys step on the pitch now they are putting the most important contract of their career on the line, if they have an offer from elsewhere on the table. You are asking for them to sign elsewhere if you are pool and allowing that. Reports of agreement in principle with pool too - that doesn't give the player much comfort either and sound like nonsense. |
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liverpool let them off by failing to beat united
Arsenal now 5/1 |
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4/1 now after liverpools two draws.
home to spuds tonight so expecting a home win currently 7 points behind liverpool with a -7 goal difference |
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Will they win tonight? 2-1 up half-time.
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Dominated the first half tbf; travesty when Spurs went one up. Arsenal are struggling with injuries and everybody can see how many chances they are wasting at the moment. Against bottom half teams like Spurs it can prove costly. Yesterday needed crap goalkeeping from Spurs to get the win.
Spurs crumble in most matches this season, but surprised they are 6/4 to beat Everton. |
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lost a 2-0 lead todraw 2-2 with villa. liverpool get two late late goals.
arsenal out to 5/1 6points behind played a game more and a big inferior goal differrence |
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a hard fought win yesterday at Wolves so they remain a 5/1 shot.
it looks like a two horse race if you look at the prices. City are third favs at 25.00. Big game next weekend at home to city Liverpool are away to the inform bournemouth. |
