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By:
duffy
When: 21 Aug 23 16:11
In truth he never had a chance, what we've seen on here is just a microcosm of the circus we would have had going forward, I hope we get to see the new evidence in due course.

At least in the club statement they have said all they can to tell us that they have seen that he was innocent without being able to disclose it all.
By:
Wesdag
When: 21 Aug 23 16:12

Aug 21, 2023 -- 3:46PM, duffy wrote:


Wes, who's your team?


Arsenal.
And before you indulge in any whataboutery, if any strong footage emerges of any wrongdoing, my opinion would be the same as in this case.
The club & it's integrity is bigger than any player.

By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 21 Aug 23 16:14
How long before he dumps her particularly if he goes to Saudi or Turkey.

I don’t know what the truth is here. She seems as culpable as him and imho definitely set him up.

i think most young people have a lot to learn as do many of the old goats on here Shocked
By:
salmon spray
When: 21 Aug 23 16:19
They're going to sell him. I suspect as others have said he'll end up in Saudi. European teams would want him cut-price because of the baggage.
By:
MJK
When: 21 Aug 23 16:20
Courts = Not Guilty. Club = Not Guilty. Social Media = Guilty. Cheerio. Does that summarise the whole thing?
By:
Tiger Tiger
When: 21 Aug 23 16:21
Is Anthony still at Man U after all the dometic vioence and bodily injury allegations made against him? His now ex wife is preparing more allegations within a 70 page document.

Will there be another Kangaroo court on the betfair forum?
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 21 Aug 23 16:21
Which Court said he was not guilty?
By:
Tiger Tiger
When: 21 Aug 23 16:21
*domestic violence
By:
tobermory
When: 21 Aug 23 16:21
pretty much, MJK
By:
duffy
When: 21 Aug 23 16:22
Yes Wes, I wasn't sure but seeing the odd post from you on the Spurs thread thought that you must be a gooner, dear me though, talk about hypocrisy.Sad
By:
tobermory
When: 21 Aug 23 16:22

Aug 21, 2023 -- 4:21PM, Whisperingdeath wrote:


Which Court said he was not guilty?


There was no trial because the police found out there was no crime.

By:
1st time poster
When: 21 Aug 23 16:23
so utd selling up to a £100 mil asset on cheap
greenwood losing a £300,000 a week career at worlds biggest club
100% of women in uk think he,s a koont
maj of men  in uk think he,s a koont
but greenwood and utd have evidence that proves we,re all wrong and he,s innocent and would help another club maybe buy him
but because its nearly xmas and a monday their keeping it to themselves , GOT IT

meanwhile ive got to pop round and see a woman ive never met or talked to and give her £15 million in a carrier bag, LaughLaugh
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 21 Aug 23 16:25
I also think he is a young man…. a boy. I think United have a duty of care towards him as he is supposed to be “ family “. A familg are supposed to look after each other.

Who is looking after the girl after she put a secret tape recording online rather than go to the Police.

The whole thing is disturbing. Girls as well as boys are playing games and need educating.
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 21 Aug 23 16:27
Not true Tobes

The one witness in the case and accuser refused to testify. They charged him meaning they concluded a crime had been committed but the charges were dropped

No Court found him Not Guilty!
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 21 Aug 23 16:27
Not true Tobes

The one witness in the case and accuser refused to testify. They charged him meaning they concluded a crime had been committed but the charges were dropped

No Court found him Not Guilty!
By:
1st time poster
When: 21 Aug 23 16:28
the best the brains of twitterati can come up with is she likes it rough and new evidence is other tapes/recordings of greenwood threatening to rape,beat her up and we,re supposed to celebrate then getting married and wanting to bring kids in to this set up, CryCry
By:
Wesdag
When: 21 Aug 23 16:28

Aug 21, 2023 -- 4:22PM, duffy wrote:


Yes Wes, I wasn't sure but seeing the odd post from you on the Spurs thread thought that you must be a gooner, dear me though, talk about hypocrisy.


As I also mentioned, if there is anything similar beyond speculation, my opinion would be the same as with Greenwood.
Hardly hypocrisy.

By:
tobermory
When: 21 Aug 23 16:30
The one witness in the case and accuser refused to testify. They charged him meaning they concluded a crime had been committed but the charges were dropped

No, the reason given for dropping the charges was that 'new material came to light'

That is cop speak for 'we found it it was all bollix'
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 21 Aug 23 16:31
I think going to Saudi would be a good punishment for both of them
By:
Tiger Tiger
When: 21 Aug 23 16:32
Why should he go to Saudi??? Why are you even mentioning it?? The guy is innocent and shouldnt have to go anywhere.
By:
tobermory
When: 21 Aug 23 16:32
Imagine trying to be a WAG in Saudi Surprised
By:
1st time poster
When: 21 Aug 23 16:33
yep a club currently on market for £5 billion ,always give away £100 mill assets because of a load of bollix, its the way to become worth £5 billion apparently
By:
duffy
When: 21 Aug 23 16:33
Wes, what do you think?, I'm not talking about evidence, I'm talking about your gut feeling, we don't need evidence ourselves to make a decision, we can take our own private decision about someone or something regardless.

I'm asking you if someone put a gun to your head, do you think that the stories surrounding the Arsenal player have any ring of truth to them or do you think they are a complete fabrication?
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 21 Aug 23 16:33
New evidence?

She refused to testify!

What evidence? He is fighting for his future but decided not to release “ the evidence “ buulsheite!
By:
tobermory
When: 21 Aug 23 16:37
Well, WD, what do the police mean by 'new material that came to light'

That is not how you would phrase a witness dropping out.

And then the United statement makes clear that there is something not made known to the public which led them to conclude he did not do what he was charged with.
By:
jollyswagman
When: 21 Aug 23 16:39
wd, the cps said 'new material' came to light and the witnesses withdrew cooperation back in february when they dropped the charges.

https://www.cps.gov.uk/cps/news/mason-greenwood-cps-discontinuance-charges
By:
JPSER
When: 21 Aug 23 16:39
I guess this means Rachel is staying a Man Utd plastic?
By:
jollyswagman
When: 21 Aug 23 16:39
sorry 'key witnesses'
By:
duffy
When: 21 Aug 23 16:41
Absolutely tobes, that sentiment is all over Arnold's statement, he basically said that we know he's innocent but it's just going to be more trouble than it's worth.

I just don't know why, in law that it can't be revealed.
By:
Wesdag
When: 21 Aug 23 16:44

Aug 21, 2023 -- 4:33PM, duffy wrote:


Wes, what do you think?, I'm not talking about evidence, I'm talking about your gut feeling, we don't need evidence ourselves to make a decision, we can take our own private decision about someone or something regardless.I'm asking you if someone put a gun to your head, do you think that the stories surrounding the Arsenal player have any ring of truth to them or do you think they are a complete fabrication?


My gut tells me it's a jilted ex.
But as I've said, if evidence was put into the public domain similar to MG's case, then he should be dealt with the same.

By:
duffy
When: 21 Aug 23 16:47
That'll be two jilted ex's you mean!
By:
Wesdag
When: 21 Aug 23 16:47

Aug 21, 2023 -- 4:41PM, duffy wrote:


Absolutely tobes, that sentiment is all over Arnold's statement, he basically said that we know he's innocent but it's just going to be more trouble than it's worth.I just don't know why, in law that it can't be revealed.


IF all this has been a set-up, hoax, misunderstanding etc, why hasn't there been some massive media counter-offensive to salvage this guy's career?

I would've at least expected some tv interviews with the loved up couple to at least try & sway public opinion? Confused

By:
JPSER
When: 21 Aug 23 16:48
There are 2 girls where I work who openly tell their collegues that their biggest sexual fantasy is to be r@ped. not saying thats anything thats happened here, but somethings are never as they seem
By:
Wesdag
When: 21 Aug 23 16:51

Aug 21, 2023 -- 4:47PM, duffy wrote:


That'll be two jilted ex's you mean!


Some women unfortunately see footballers as a meal ticket.
When that meal ticket gets rescinded, they can often become litigious.
The recent case with Mendy an example.

By:
duffy
When: 21 Aug 23 16:54
Yes of course, obviously the player just got very unlucky, er..twice
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 21 Aug 23 16:54
We have tgd best Police Force in the World

They would never lieWhoops
By:
tobermory
When: 21 Aug 23 16:54
I would've at least expected some tv interviews with the loved up couple to at least try & sway public opinion?

I think they will eventually try that, probably the best solution.

Up to now they've been advised by legal people who figured, as there was no crime, Mason would get his job back without her having to admit to faking stuff.

But the lawyers were not so savvy about the socila media/political side of things and so we are where we are.

Next step will be to get a media/tabloid adviser who will get them a Harry&meghan type interview where they both admit their mistakes etc
By:
1st time poster
When: 21 Aug 23 16:55
so the club have agreed to give up a possible £100 mill asset and him a £300,000 a week contract,rather than admit he and she have   got some rather strange bedroom foreplay,
he,s going to have to lose his shyness about the facts when trying to find another club so might as well lose it at man utd
By:
jollyswagman
When: 21 Aug 23 16:55
Tiger Tiger, that statement is misleading. he wasnt cleared of all charges, they were dropped which is a different thing.

https://twitter.com/AdamWagner1/status/1693645206426402846

MJK he wasnt found not guilty by the courts, the charges were dropped by the cps.

tobermory, you keep saying the police, it isnt up to them it is the cps and they didnt say there was no crime they said key witnesses withdrew and new material came to light which made getting a guilty finding unlikely.

'In this case a combination of the withdrawal of key witnesses and new material that came to light meant there was no longer a realistic prospect of conviction. In these circumstances, we are under a duty to stop the case.'


i have no opinion either way. unless we find out what the new information is, and i doubt the cps will release it, then people with strong views are engaging in supposition. social media innit.
By:
tobermory
When: 21 Aug 23 16:59
The information will have been uncovered by the police, which left the CPS decision a formality.
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