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By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 01 Aug 22 00:05
Duffy

Thats a good post

So far they aint actually banning anyone that provides the statements and other stuff, just putting them on a limit which doesnt match their incomings and outgoings as you said above

They aint checking all that
By:
duffy
When: 01 Aug 22 00:46
Hi SS,

No they aren't checking all that and as I said earlier also, they'd need to go even further still because as most of us are living in a household with partners there will be bills coming out of a partners bank that aids me.

To check MY affordability accurately they would also need to see my partners bank statements and wage slips too.

Income alone without the context of an accurate outgoing reveal means diddly squat.

I haven't had a call yet but one thing that has occurred to me is that I should expect one simply as an act of spite from being critical of them on these threads, I have thought that they must have people reading these threads.
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 01 Aug 22 01:23
Exactly Dufft top post again

Try saying this on the chat or over the phone to the muppets that are hired to take the rants and insults, its like talking to the wall in the corner, just constantly on re loop for about an hour

Amd in the end its basically you with the problem not them, you can expect mental health to be brought into it as well at some point, they luuurve that card do the gastapo fools.
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 01 Aug 22 01:29
Another one who got the checks gave his bank statement and was allowed to carry on gambling once hed uploaded the thing to the chat, they must unpaused his account about 25 seconds after he said

So they aint even checking these things ffs, they must be keeping them as well
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 01 Aug 22 01:29
Just unpaused *
By:
dustybin
When: 01 Aug 22 07:13
JML • July 31, 2022 8:59 PM BST
I was on £5K a day until I used it.

Well over £50K in PC since last year and on a new limit of £100/month


If this is the case you can’t be dealing with the ‘customer service’ dept (or whoever are dealing with these requests) you will get the ear of the CEO
How does he justify such an action when you alone ‘pay’ enough towards his staff’s wages to probably pay 4 salaries, to have been determined to be some kind of problem gambler?
By:
Latalomne
When: 01 Aug 22 09:16
The whole notion that they can help themselves to £50k of your winnings and then tell you you can't afford it is farcical in the extreme.  Maybe suggest they waive your future PC payments to help make it more affordable for you?  Laugh (granted that's probably what they're effectively doing to themselves with your revised deposit limit)

How long has this been going on, JML?
By:
dustybin
When: 01 Aug 22 09:30
PC isn’t money lost at gambling, it’s an artificial charge that states in the tc’s is applied to the fraction of most successful customers

Ergo, they recognise you don’t have a gambling problem, or do have a gambling problem and added charges in error.
By:
dustybin
When: 01 Aug 22 09:34
If bf really are going down this route I’d be happy to have all my PC that was wrongly taken and never log in again.
By:
JML
When: 01 Aug 22 10:18
If this is the case you can’t be dealing with the ‘customer service’ dept (or whoever are dealing with these requests) you will get the ear of the CEO
How does he justify such an action when you alone ‘pay’ enough towards his staff’s wages to probably pay 4 salaries, to have been determined to be some kind of problem gambler?


The complaints dept put me on £5K/day a few months ago but I knew it could change to as little as £100/month at any time
so my account balance has been at least 5 times what's needed.In the days leading up to Champions Lge final I decided to top up my account
by £5K on 3 consecutive days which lead to the dreaded phone call.

When he said £100 I said fine,no problems and imediately he said that he's had a closer look and my limit was £600,
although he never actually changed it on my account.If I had complained about the £100 there would have been no mention of the £600.
By:
Latalomne
When: 01 Aug 22 10:57
So you were already on their radar, hence the original complaint?

Was that the same MO?  Multiple deposits over a relatively short period of time?
By:
Timber
When: 01 Aug 22 10:59

Jul 31, 2022 -- 11:53PM, duffy wrote:


I say again, how can it be affordability if all they are asking for is wage slips and bank statements.You can't judge someones affordability by seeing their income alone.If you bring in 10k a week but somehow have 10k and £1 going out you can't afford it.If you bring in £500 a week and have £50 going out you can afford it.Only a complete break down of all incomings and OUTGOINGS will determine affordbility.So no, it isn't anything to do with afforability and it isn't anything to do with proof of income because if it was you could redact everything else.This whole thing IMO, is designed to filter out unwanted players and the current climate has given them the cover story to carry it out.


They will want a certified accountant income and expenditure account next Laugh

By:
Timber
When: 01 Aug 22 11:01
Just a shame non of its competitors have ever really been able to challenge their market share
Smarkets is ok, but they don't have the range of markets that I like to bet on
Plus they have bots filling up the liquidity & it can completely disappear
Also the bots (to the millisecond) track BF's odds
By:
HallGreenSpy
When: 01 Aug 22 11:10
So the question is ,does anyone know if i am asked to do a affordibility check and i refuse point blank ,if i tell them to close te account will they hand over the balance?

hector, this happened with my brother and a process is started where it is looked at by some team or other and they make a decision. Luckily for him he received an email stating the balance would be sent to him after the live chat he had when he objected strongly to his money being held against his will. Would like to think this would apply to all but if so, why is  it referred to others to decide??
By:
HallGreenSpy
When: 01 Aug 22 11:12
Also I might add, he did get 2 weeks to provide these docs and that was ample time to withdraw the majority of his account. Kept playing til it was paused and the above applied to what he had left in there.
By:
JML
When: 01 Aug 22 11:53
So you were already on their radar, hence the original complaint?

Was that the same MO?  Multiple deposits over a relatively short period of time?


Originaly,I answered all the questions and my deposit limit remained on £5K a day.
A few days later my account was suspended because I said that I made use of
the cooling off periods and they had a follow up question that needed answering.
When they couldn't tell me when they would get in touch to re open my account I sent a message to
the CEO.
By:
hectoratoratora
When: 01 Aug 22 13:49
HGS,Thank you.
By:
mega88
When: 01 Aug 22 14:16

Jul 31, 2022 -- 11:53PM, duffy wrote:


I say again, how can it be affordability if all they are asking for is wage slips and bank statements.You can't judge someones affordability by seeing their income alone.If you bring in 10k a week but somehow have 10k and £1 going out you can't afford it.If you bring in £500 a week and have £50 going out you can afford it.Only a complete break down of all incomings and OUTGOINGS will determine affordbility.So no, it isn't anything to do with afforability and it isn't anything to do with proof of income because if it was you could redact everything else.This whole thing IMO, is designed to filter out unwanted players and the current climate has given them the cover story to carry it out.


Couldn't agree more Duffy, get this man a beer !!

By:
mega88
When: 01 Aug 22 14:18
By:
.Marksman.
When: 01 Aug 22 14:52
If bf really are going down this route I’d be happy to have all my PC that was wrongly taken and never log in again.

Agree, Duffy:
If it was a choice between submitting bank statements and carrying on or being offered back the stolen money if I would just leave, I'd take back my money (which they stole) and just go.
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 01 Aug 22 18:07
Timber

Smarkets is shocking sorry

Its ok for small bets but for big players they might as well not even go to the lenghts of opening an account
By:
Timber
When: 01 Aug 22 18:19
In football?

They have plenty of liquidity
By:
Blockfire
When: 01 Aug 22 19:50
See ya Sonts mate
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 02 Aug 22 01:52
It is for the lower leagues in various countries I find

The big games its fine for what I want
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 02 Aug 22 01:53
Will still post on here block
By:
Latalomne
When: 02 Aug 22 10:06

Aug 1, 2022 -- 11:53AM, JML wrote:


So you were already on their radar, hence the original complaint?Was that the same MO?

By:
Latalomne
When: 02 Aug 22 10:06
Thanks for the reply, JML.
By:
JML
When: 02 Aug 22 12:55
I guess we'll just have to wait for any new regulations/law.

2 things that will never change is that Bookmakers are only interested in making as much
profit as possible and it's in their interest to allow customers to deposit as much as possible,
without breaking any regulations.
By:
LoyalHoncho
When: 02 Aug 22 13:06
So well said duffy.
By:
DIE LINKE
When: 03 Aug 22 16:54
Deposit, eh? Had to look this up!

deposit
noun
US  /dɪˈpɑz·ɪt/
deposit noun [C] (MONEY)

an amount of money paid into an account:

She made a large deposit last Thursday.
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