Football
There is currently 1 person viewing this thread.
These 253 comments are related to the topic:
Chelsea; WTF is going on?
Chelsea; WTF is going on?
sort by:
Show
per page
Replies: 253
|
By:
Hope all abramovitch fanboys watched Panorama.
|
|
By:
If they knew this years ago... why did the government let him in?
It’s all well and god selling propaganda now but it’s no good is it, you let him in with blood money, you let him buy artificial success, you let him and Russia off for years despite them poisoning people on our streets... Stick your bleeding heart b0llocks up your arris ffs |
|
By:
And that still leaves us with... the Saudis
So it’s fine for them to publicly execute thousands of people but Russia are naughty? So I’m not buying this sh!t The media are getting on my nerves and have done for years, always them painting the picture it’s pathetic |
|
By:
Yeah it's actually scumbag behaviour to allow a guy like that in knowing where his money came from from day 1 and let him buy all sorts of property in the UK and then turn around and take it all off him. As much theft as him getting rich in the first place. The tories have taken millions from Russians throughout that period too. The hypocrisy is breathtaking.
Nothing new in Panorama. Wonder if they'll do one on the Saudi's next week. |
|
By:
Like holding up a bank robber and taking his loot. Both a pair of lowlifes.
|
|
By:
It was labour and Blair at the time
Then brown and labour, then Cameron and his little prop stool Clegg, then just Cameron, then may, then Johnson 5 different governments under two different parties... and not one of them kicked him out Lurka, it’s setting a dangerous precedent, it’s basically saying to the public we can take anything at any time |
|
By:
6 different government actually
|
|
By:
What is telling is today dozens of police turned up at 5 Belgrave Square including and armed unit to evict a handful of protesters who occupied the empty property of Oleg Deripaska who has close links with top politicians in our country.
Anyone here been burgled or robbed? I doubt many of you saw one policeman let alone 50 and a tactical firearms unit. |
|
By:
All Chelsea recent success has just like that been tarnished by wide spread corruption
Biggest concern is that its taken an invasion and civilians death to be made public. Modern day Football is dirtiest sport out there it seems |
|
By:
I haven’t got a problem with sticking up the Bank Robber.
I have little sympathy with Chelsea FC or it’s fans. They did a deal with the devil and now have to pay the price. I do think what is happening to the club is stupid though. It is viable as a going concern. People want to buy it. Chelsea owe £1.5 Billion to Abramovic which imho is a debt now owned by the tax payer. That needs to be paid and the sales proceeds should go to the Exchequer. |
|
By:
So Roman stealing the Russian people's money is bad but when the UK government does it it's good?
4 legs good 2 legs bad? |
|
By:
Yes!
It’s not stealing either. Sequestration of assets! Just like they do with drug dealers. |
|
By:
Let me remind you dozens of police at 5 Belgrave Gardens today. The house is empty. Dozens of police, a fire arms unit and a bulldozer fir an empty property. The owner is at close call with top politicians including the Prime Minister.
These people have huge influence with our politicians, have caused property prices up all over the country and their dirty money has been laundered by our Banksters. They have corrupted our political system and now these bagmen who hold Poohtin’s money see what their influence with our politicians has resulted in. Poohtin thought this influence gave him a free rein. It did, western politicians did nothing. The people are driving the action against Abramovic |
|
By:
Abramovich has been known to be dodgy for over 2 decades. His sudden "new found" wealth - he was in his early 30's and only an oil trader - arose from 2 significant corporate deals courtesy of the then Russian government under Yeltsin who overthrew Gorbachev when the latter was resting in his dacha.
I hope Abramovich can never be allowed to set foot in the UK, and his "stolen" assets be sold to fund the resettlement of Ukrainians overseas. I also hope he'd be detained if he sets foot outside Russia eg USA, EU or the UK. |
|
By:
Chavs want the cup tie played behind closed doors
Put the BOOT-IN bORO  |
|
By:
Chelsea want Saturday's FA Cup quarter-final at Middlesbrough to be played behind closed doors "for matters of sporting integrity"
What about sporting integrity when Chelsea have spent millions over the years compared with very little in comparison by Middlesbrough, hope the FA tells them to do one. |
|
By:
Sporting integrity
sorrowful choice of phrase by chelski |
|
By:
If they're not careful, they're gonna lose their spot as everyone's second favourite team.
|
|
By:
Other than playing behind closed doors at Middlesbrough, Chelsea have also requested the same referee and VAR officials from Sundays game with Newcastle !
|
|
By:
a few weeks ago russian money was good - what does one do with ones virtually useless roubles now?
But on to more serious matters the whole foreign ownership needs clearing out for a start chinese arab and the rest the same needs to be done to the three political parties and the snp cancel the lot of them and start again with a clean sheet - no fkn donations either hope this helps - but no one dare go near it - too many roubles, votes and positions to lose |
|
By:
deduct them league points for time- wasting
|
|
By:
I don't think we can block foreign ownership altogether. Football is an international game now.
I think the big issue is in clubs clearly living beyond their means and owners putting their own money in, and not through a Jack Walker style love of the club. Both Chelsea and City were clearly political tools for their owners and we're providing cover for any crimes elsewhere. That needs to stop. We need a proper check of ownership. I think we also need a proper look at football finances. I'd personally prefer a NFL style collective bargaining to ensure funds are spread more evenly through the league and teams can keep hold of their talent and it's more merit-based but I doubt the capitalists in charge would agree. |
|
By:
Not sure how building up a 1.5 billion debt
squares up with financial fair play and sporting integrity. Then he wants the debt back by selling the club at way over market value. |
|
By:
Someone said (so not sure if it's true) that Abramovich was putting £80M per year into the club. If that's true, who's he selling it to except another dodgepot with limitless funds trying to divert attention away from deeds elsewhere. What proper businessman is going to do anything remotely similar to that?
|
|
By:
20 x 80 million sounds about right.
But the value of the club is what it is, He shouldn't be allowed to sell the 1.5 billion debt!!! |
|
By:
He won't be selling the club above market value and he won't be selling the debt. Given it's a fire sale, it's more likely to be below market value. He has already said he's writing off the debt by having it paid to a war victims charity. He won't be getting a penny of the debt or profit on the sale, they won't allow that.
There's already a reported bid of £2.7bn. That would mean that the debt will be retained and presumably paid off immediately after completion of the purchase into whatever charity Abramovich has stipulated for victims of the war. The bid thus values the club without the debt at around £1.2bn, which is about right for a club of Chelsea's revenues. Not sure where that money will go but it won't be to Roman. |
|
By:
If club has been seized, it should be sold for
market value, and Abramovichs debt to self wiped. He shouldn't get to nominate a charity, he's run away. If his yachts are seized he shouldn't get a say where the cash goes. Government gave him long enough to liquidate his assets, he should have used it more wisely. |
|
By:
Having corrected the dirty money in real estate of foreigners maybe start with holiday or 2nd home by rich and wealthy Londoners and non-local on UK holiday destinations eg Cotswold, Cornwall, etc. Post these restrict buy-to-let to 2 per individual (max) only to assist 1st-time buyers and locals a foot on the housing ladder; houses are for living-in not pension enhancing.
Regards Chelsea Mr Abramovich must not gain 1p from acquiring Chelsea; any gain to Ukrainians and Russian people post Putin. |
|
By:
Chelsea have withdrawn a request for Saturday's FA Cup tie at Middlesbrough to be played behind closed doors, the Football Association says
|
|
By:
Quite right too
Who is making these decisions, pootin himself? |
|
By:
Further from BBC website
Championship club Middlesbrough said they would challenge the "bizarre" and "ironic" request regarding the quarter-final - which was set to be discussed at an FA meeting on Wednesday - "in the strongest possible terms". Middlesbrough chairman Steve Gibson told the Athletic: "Chelsea and sporting integrity do not belong in the same sentence. "Where is the intellect of Bruce Buck, the chairman of Chelsea, who has been an apologist for his owner, where the trophies won over 19 years have come from the corrupt money provided by Abramovich?" Gibson added. "Where is the intellect of the chairman of Chelsea when it comes to playing his games at home in front of his season-ticket holders? Does he want to play all his away games at empty stadiums? "Abramovich has been kicked out of football and Bruce Buck should be kicked out of football too." Ouch |
|
By:
Gibson is always trying to sue other clubs and then says he’s a football man whilst doing it
This is a bloke who hired multiple managers on big contracts, spent vast amounts on players and they can’t even half fill their ground, and then accusers other clubs of spending beyond their means  Fecking idiot that bloke, he’s still hounding Derby even now despite them having been punished multiple times over Oh and he’s pressured the efl into changing ffp rules because... his club is about to fall foul of the current rules I wouldn’t listen to that idiot on anything financial and waffling about morals |
|
By:
Gibson should be kicked out of football
This bloke paid 10m for Jordan Rhodes ffs And they did it without parachute payments aiding it  |
|
By:
Gibson should be kicked out of football
This bloke paid 10m for Jordan Rhodes ffs And they did it without parachute payments aiding it. I am not sure oif you are ware the Rhodes goals were the difference between auto-promotion and the play offs in 2016. The Rhodes fee was recovered from his sale to Sheff Wed. |
|
By:
Gibson is always trying to sue other clubs and then says he’s a football man whilst doing it
Which other clubs in the last 18 years? besides Derby, who have been found guilty by the EFL of financial fraud. The EFL offered no compensation to clubs who suffered. This is a bloke who hired multiple managers on big contracts, spent vast amounts on players and they can’t even half fill their ground, and then accusers other clubs of spending beyond their means Crazy How many high profile managers have Forest gone through in recent years? - over 30k crowd against Forest this year and 31k home tickets sold for Saturday - Boro don't do offers like £1 tickets that many other Champ clubs do to boost their attendances despite being in an area of relative economic deprivation. In recent years both Bournemouth and Villa also broke financial regulations to get promotion, but nothing was done about their fraudulent promotions. Other teams in the promotion race effectively suffered in 2015 and 2018 & 19. Fecking idiot that bloke, he’s still hounding Derby even now despite them having been punished multiple times over - the dispute with Derby has been sorted. Derby were paying wages way beyond their means and it was costing other clubs points as stated by Football League. Mel Morris was the idiot as highlighted by curreny Derby manager Wayne Rooney. Oh and he’s pressured the efl into changing ffp rules because... his club is about to fall foul of the current rules - wages bill is no higher than that at Forest. I wouldn’t listen to that idiot on anything financial and waffling about morals. - Most geniune fans would rather have Steve Gibson as their chairman than the rulers of Saudi or a Russian billionaire whose wealth comes from supplying diesel and steel for Putin's tanks. |
|
By:
Ref "Sporting integrity"
Boro's wage bill is around £1.8m/month while Chelsea's is around £28m/month. Didn't Chelsea sign up for the proposed European Super League - the one that excluded 99.9% of other clubs in Europe pof ever joining? The billionaire clubs practically have the trophies sewn up for themselves nowadays - Leicester have managed a couple of successes but that is becoming harder and harder. very I'd love any sort of level palying field but its not going to happen - too many vested interests. |
|
By:
Abramovich doesn't supply diesel or oil. He made the bulk of his money buying and selling an oil company decades ago. A company he owns 29% of 'may' have supplied steel for Putin's tanks according to the UK government. May.
Britain has supplied the Saudis with £20bn in arms and technical training since 2015 and they are using them to obliterate their next door neighbour, Yemen, but that's not at all similar is it? Boris going over there next week to agree a new oil deal to replace the Russian gas it's suddenly immoral to buy. Laughable hypocrisy all round from people being spoon-fed their opinions by a complicit media. |
|
By:
Where does the money comes from for the large Russian Army? The Russian Federation does not own oil and gas companies. The wealth of the country is highly centralised with private individuals.
What does Abramovich currently own in Russia? The oil company you mention cost him around £150m and he sold it for around £3.5bn 8 years later according to Panorama- he must be a fantastic businessman or something else was going on. I didn't think the Saudi Royal Family (which is effectively their Government) were fit and proper owners neither. Two wrongs don't make a right. The bottom line is a lot of greenwashing is going on in these football ownership deals. |
|
By:
Gibson is a great chairman, if he has a fault he was too
loyal to some managers. He is also wonderfully passionate about the area and has made many attempts to improve what might be termed levelling up. Any club would surely be proud to have such a chairman. |
|
By:
A man with a flat that hasn’t been bombed can talk about hypocrisy.
|