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By:
themover
When: 20 Nov 18 21:26
Left Liverpool to win some trophies, can't hold that against him.
By:
charwell.
When: 20 Nov 18 22:01
If you believe that you believe City are a big club on merit..............oh hang on a minute........
By:
scandanavian_haven
When: 20 Nov 18 22:02
yeah don't think he can be called greedy, unless you mean greedy for trophies, left Liverpool for the same reason Suarez and Coutinho went to Barcelona, Torres went to Chelsea and Gerrard was on the verge of going to Chelsea before he was given a lot of threats by Liverpool fans, though that was probably part of the reason.

Those 4 players can hardly say they've regretted it, they've all won leagues and/or Champions League titles since, and with a bigger move it generally comes hand in hand with more money.

It's not like Sterling was a Liverpool boy and abandoned his roots for an Oligarch's plaything, he's from Wembley and was a QPR kid, like a lot of players - if they really left clubs like Liverpool, at those times rather than now, purely for the money, they would not have gone to City, China or the middle East would have snapped them up for more. But of course winning trophies there is practically meaningless and carries no presitige like it does in England or Spain.
By:
themover
When: 20 Nov 18 22:12
I wondered how long it would be before the "big club" comment came up Laugh
By:
charwell.
When: 20 Nov 18 22:13
Sterling was happy to stay at Anfield but demanded ludicrous cash. Wasn't about trophies at all. Then the crooked Middle Eastern club came in with oodles of cash and he helped himself quicker than a fat man at a buffet. Of course now he wants parity on the pay scale with the clubs leading earners........

Also, when Sterling left LFC were in a very strong position on the playing field and City hadn't yet recruited half the side they have now. LFC came within a whisker of winning a 6th European Cup since. City haven't even won the games biggest prize once. Suarez & Couts is no surprise as Barca the biggest team in the world and a magnet especially for South Americans. Torres left as Chelsea had a better side than LFC at the time; so you are comparing apples with oranges because Sterling simply left for the money.
By:
themover
When: 20 Nov 18 22:19
"He left for footballing reasons given where Liverpool stood at the time and the direction City were heading. "Raheem was guaranteed to compete for the Premier League and Champions League every season, and work under one of the best managers of all-time. "Since Pep Guardiola arrived, Raheem's game has gone up a level so he now ranks alongside Harry Kane as England’s best player."

Jamie Carragher
By:
scandanavian_haven
When: 20 Nov 18 22:39
When Sterling joined Man City in 2015/2016, Man City had won 2 of the previous 4 League titles, and in the other 2 season they finished runners up. 1/2/1/2nd, Liverpool were 8/7/2/6th during that period and in the 3 seasons since he's been gone, Liverpool have finsished 8/4/4th and City 4/3/1st with a title and league cup.

These were the first teams of both Liverpool and City the season before in 2014/2015

Liverpool: Mignolet - Johnson - Lovren - Skrtle - Moreno - Coutinho - Henderson - Gerrard (34) - Sterling - Lallana -  Sturridge -

Man City: Hart - Kompany - Demechellis - Zabaleta - Kolorov - Silva - Toure - Fernandinho - Milner - Aguero - Dzeko

City's team at the times as reflected in the league finishing postions were better as were their prospects given the money that City had at their disposal on new players. They also signed De Bruyne in the same summer.

If Sterling was in the Liverpool team now, I don't actually think he would leave, because Liverpool are genuine title contenders.

There was also the manager issue with Rogers, don't think they ever had a great relationship after that documentary when he spoke to him like a child and called him Sterling rather than Raheem.
By:
charwell.
When: 21 Nov 18 10:15
We could be going round in circles forever.....

https://talksport.com/football/274303/exclusive-raheem-sterlings-liverpool-exit-driven-money-claims-john-barnes-150519147295/
By:
jed.davison
When: 21 Nov 18 10:32
We probably will be, given your bitterness at the boy leaving Liverpool will always overshadow in your mind anything he achieves on the pitch.
By:
scandanavian_haven
When: 21 Nov 18 12:13
however we judge Sterling, one thing nobody can take away is that he has a Premier League winners medal aged 23, he wouldn't have one if he'd have stayed at Liverpool. In that like Barnes said he was making mistake joining City as he wouldn't be a regular.
By:
themover
When: 21 Nov 18 12:39

Nov 21, 2018 -- 10:15AM, charwell. wrote:


We could be going round in circles forever.....https://talksport.com/football/274303/exclusive-raheem-sterlings-liverpool-exit-driven-money-claims-john-barnes-150519147295/


If it was just about the money why didn't a big club like Liverpool make him the same offer that City did?

By:
charwell.
When: 21 Nov 18 13:45
Because we don't have a corrupt nation backing us and bending FFP rules.
By:
jed.davison
When: 21 Nov 18 13:54
LOL you paid £75m for a centre-back and you're moaning about how much money City have got.
By:
rommel
When: 21 Nov 18 13:58
buttons jed buttons,must be worth about 200 mill now
By:
scandanavian_haven
When: 21 Nov 18 14:07
Liverpool don't need to worry about letting Sterling go 3 years ago anyway, this is their best ever Premier League team and imo, the only genuine rivals to City for the league, think those two will soon cut the rest adrift, when I watch Liverpool they never look like conceding these days, Man City whilst a similar record in the goals against column, always look more vulnerable, but get away with it due to having so much of the ball.
By:
jed.davison
When: 21 Nov 18 14:10
I'm a Spurs fan so I'm possibly a little biased, and Liverpool and Man City may very well fight out the League in the end, but Spurs will be bang there with ten games left. We play Chelsea home and Arsenal away next two games, then twelve games in a row - eight at hime - against utter dross.
By:
mafeking
When: 21 Nov 18 14:26
certainly should be in a comfortable top 4 position after those games. still be might be double figures behind city by then. seems to have passed people by spurs have played 8 away games already and the top 2 at home. 27 points is well above par from those fixtures
By:
asparagus
When: 21 Nov 18 15:09
Spurs have undoubtedly done very well with regards to points this season thus far. They also have a much deeper squad the they are given credit for. However, City and perhaps Liverpool are going to drop so few points this season that I can't see Spurs staying close. In addition home advantage for Spurs is not as great for as most teams with the current situation.

With regard to Sterling it's almost certain he went for a combination of more money and more chance of winning trophies. Which held the greater weight we don't really know but both were considerations.
By:
mafeking
When: 21 Nov 18 15:36
christian eriksen who is seen as spurs most important player and we are nothing like the same side without him has played a grand total of 41 minutes in the last 7 league games 6 of which have been won
By:
scandanavian_haven
When: 21 Nov 18 16:08
yes but Palace, Wolves, West Ham, Cardiff, Huddersfield, Brighton are all 11th or lower, bar Wolves the rest of relegation fodder. The game you lost was v City where he was needed.
By:
mafeking
When: 21 Nov 18 16:41
sh, no one else will go to brighton, west ham, wolves and crystal palace and get maximum points. none of those are easy teams to beat on their own patch

city will win it by 10 points at least
By:
scandanavian_haven
When: 21 Nov 18 16:55
But there still bottom half of the table teams, I would expect all Champions League teams minue one key player to go there and win
By:
scandanavian_haven
When: 21 Nov 18 16:58
It's not really impressive to beat teams who's squad worth is far inferior, it's what top teams can do against other top teams minus a key player, if they can still win like City have been doing without De Bruyne is impressive.

Don't think City will run away with it this season, neck and neck with Liverpool surely.
By:
mafeking
When: 21 Nov 18 17:17
city might win 15 or 16 away games but everyone else will do well to win more than about 11. even the middle to bottom teams are capable of getting a result against the top teams on a good day

not exactly sticking my neck out cos everyone else except liverpool have already dropped points in those 4 away games. shows it's not that easy to beat anyone away
By:
charwell.
When: 21 Nov 18 17:40
LOL you paid £75m for a centre-back and you're moaning about how much money City have got.


The difference being we saved up our pocket money specifically for VVD so we had the money. No cooking the books to snare our main target was needed. People seem to forget LFC had a net transfer surplus for the past 4 years prior to this window. Klopp has been extremely patient in waiting for the players he specifically wants and has not been panicked into rash signings:

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/679465/Premier-League-Liverpool-Chelsea-Man-Utd-City-Arsenal-Tottenham-net-spend-sportgalleries

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11661/11449358/jurgen-klopp-v-jose-mourinho-transfer-spending-compared
By:
scandanavian_haven
When: 21 Nov 18 17:54
MK those away games, they may be tricky away games but still favs in all of them of course.

Tottenham were 1.69 v Palace, 1.98 v West Ham, 1.52 v Huddersfield, 1.7 v Brighton, 2.28 v Wolves


You could argue tottenham in that case are flat track bullies, beating the teams they should be beating and losing to teams better than them? it's about winning the league really rather than wins away to small lower half teams in the table.
By:
jed.davison
When: 21 Nov 18 18:02
You can argue whatever you like, but as I said before, with ten games to go Spurs will not be far away. Then who knows?
By:
scandanavian_haven
When: 21 Nov 18 18:08
With 10 games to go last season Tottenham were 20 points behind City, City have since brought in Mahrez for 60mil and Tottenham didn't sign anyone.
By:
tobermory
When: 21 Nov 18 18:09
It's a myth that to win the league you have to win the games v rivals and the others don't matter much, or that you just to have to win all the games v the lesser teams.

In the last 10 years of Wenger there were a couple of seasons they won the 'Big 4' mini league. And a couple where they had the best record v the bottom half teams. They didn't get involved in the title race in any of them.
By:
mafeking
When: 21 Nov 18 18:11
spurs are consistently underrated by pundits, bookmakers and the media alike. 81 points from the last 38 games despite no proper home ground

we can't win the league playing at wembley. we're in a holding pattern at the moment trying to maintain CL football as a minimum requirement and then maybe we can kick on in the next few seasons in the new stadium
By:
jed.davison
When: 21 Nov 18 18:14
With 10 games to go last season Tottenham were 20 points behind City, City have since brought in Mahrez for 60mil and Tottenham didn't sign anyone.

And this proves what?
By:
scandanavian_haven
When: 21 Nov 18 18:31
doesn't make logical sense that you can improve apon that 20 point gap with no improvements to the squad.
By:
jed.davison
When: 21 Nov 18 18:45
Your logic is flawed - would you not expect a team that has played together for a few years and is still young to be improving?

And to play Mahrez, they must inevitably leave a £50m+ footballer out of the team.
By:
mafeking
When: 21 Nov 18 18:47
football isn't logical though. it's about the only sport where one team can totally dominate the game and end up losing

chelsea went from 1st to 10th to 1st in 3 seasons. how do you explain that ?
By:
scandanavian_haven
When: 21 Nov 18 19:04
Chelsea impoded under Mourinho and Conte came into clean up the mess, then Chelsea had the benefit of not playing extra mid week European football when Conte won the league in his first season - and the difference between Mourinho/Conte and Pochettino is that Mourinho/Conte are proven winners and are ruthless, Pochettinho is just not in that mould, think Tottenham should have gone at got Conte this season.

I just look at the top teams, and really only Liverpool and City look good enough to win the league based on what I've seen this season, Chelsea I think will finishe 3rd, Tottenham, Arsenal and United fighting it out for 4th. You say that Tottenham can't win the league at Wembley but last season you won 13 from 19 home games only losing 2, a pitch is a pitch and vast majority of the fans there are still yours so I can't buy that it just seems like an excuse.

Tbh, City are lightyears ahead in every positon, I think only Kane could get into City's team, but then they'd have to play with 2 strikers.
By:
jed.davison
When: 21 Nov 18 19:07
Spurs will finish at least ten points above Arsenal and United, and above Chelsea.

Feel free to thank me later.
By:
sj
When: 21 Nov 18 19:29
I agree spurs will finish at least 10 clear of chelsea
By:
scandanavian_haven
When: 21 Nov 18 19:44
in the women's league maybe.
By:
lfc1971
When: 22 Nov 18 08:59
player for player city are not a better team than Liverpool , Spurs , Chelsea, Man Utd , Arsenal
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 22 Nov 18 09:12
Laugh
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