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By:
themover
When: 20 Nov 18 15:53
I'm fairly sure he played in the qualifiers as well.
By:
themover
When: 20 Nov 18 15:54
If someone would like to come up with a criteria for deciding who is World Class and who isn't it would save a lot of the debate instead of just saying someone is or isn't world class Tongue Out
By:
scandanavian_haven
When: 20 Nov 18 15:57
playing qualifies makes you world class against in which England were favourites in every gameConfused
By:
scandanavian_haven
When: 20 Nov 18 15:57
*against teams
By:
themover
When: 20 Nov 18 16:26
Let me know your criteria for a world class player and we'll come up with a list of players that are and aren't
By:
scandanavian_haven
When: 20 Nov 18 16:35
themover you're trying to play the man rather than the ball, I don't need to give you a list of players who I think are World Class because that is always subjective and anyone can debate anyone's list.

Sterling plays in an attacking role for City and England but he's a very poor finisher, not just poor finisher but very poor, he is still quite young and has time to improve on this but for that reason he cannot be put into a World Class bracket, if he is world class than the number of World Class players is plentiful, when in truth it's a fairly small number.
By:
lfc1971
When: 20 Nov 18 16:45
Like everything in life it’s a question of judgement

I could tell you that Claude Monet was a great artist , but you might not agree

You would be wrong
By:
themover
When: 20 Nov 18 16:45
That was my point in reply to charwell's comments. Your opinion is that he isn't world class, based on your criteria, others will have a different criteria.

How much do you think Raheem Sterling would cost someone if he was to be sold?
By:
lfc1971
When: 20 Nov 18 16:49
It’s not about the money , van goth never sold a painting
However he was a genius
By:
themover
When: 20 Nov 18 16:50
if you like Van Gogh Wink
By:
lfc1971
When: 20 Nov 18 16:51
No it doesn’t matter if I like Van Gogh or not
Why would it ? He would still be a genius
By:
themover
When: 20 Nov 18 16:53
For a "very poor" finisher he ended up as the 5th highest goalscorer in the Premier League last season, with only Salah, Kane, Aguero and Vardy scoring more times....Eden Hazard scored less times, for example.
By:
lfc1971
When: 20 Nov 18 16:55
Hazard is not and never will be a goal scorer
By:
lfc1971
When: 20 Nov 18 16:56
He will get goals because he is a very fine player
But he’s not a goal scorer
By:
themover
When: 20 Nov 18 16:56
He scored more than Firmino, so I guess he's not world class. Looks like we need to spend some money Laugh
By:
lfc1971
When: 20 Nov 18 16:59
Harvard is technically very good , you can have players who have technical weaknesses and yet are good goal scorers , it’s in the mind as well as the body
By:
lfc1971
When: 20 Nov 18 17:00
Firmino is not really a goal scorer either
By:
themover
When: 20 Nov 18 17:01
scandanavian is of the opinion Sterling can't be world class because of his finishing so if that's the criteria we can eliminate quite a lot of players.
By:
lfc1971
When: 20 Nov 18 17:02
I know them when I see them , it’s quite a matter of judgement
Not everyone has the facility : )
By:
lfc1971
When: 20 Nov 18 17:03
I know them when I see them , it’s quite a matter of judgement
Not everyone has the facility : )
By:
lockup
When: 20 Nov 18 17:03
in no doubt Pep has improved him but owes much to those around him at city has more tap ins now because he has the speed to get there but I am surprised Pep hasn't spotted his boots are on the wrong feet that penalty against Shaktar says it all.
By:
scandanavian_haven
When: 20 Nov 18 17:16
themover, I'm pretty sure however if you asked 1000 people if Sterling was World Class not asking City fans, he'd probably receive less than 2%, whereas 100% of people will agree Messi is World Class for example, Sterling can't really make a class unless it's a really debatable issue which really it isn't, I can't remember hearing anyone describe him as world class.
By:
David Icke
When: 20 Nov 18 17:16
Saw all the England games live in Russia. He was England's best player by a distance. The runs he makes, his speed and surprisingly his awareness were very good.You do not see a lot of that on the tv pictures. What do City fans make of him who go to games ?

Needs to improve his finishing though.

Anyway, give the kid a break, he is a good player. Save your criticism for Delle Ali.
By:
scandanavian_haven
When: 20 Nov 18 17:19
that's a poor argument pointing towards his goals - given how many chances are created for him in a team like Man City and how much they keep the ball tiring their opponents out btw.
By:
themover
When: 20 Nov 18 17:20
well so far this season his conversion rate is better than Harry Kane's Grin
By:
mafeking
When: 20 Nov 18 17:34
for the obvious reason the quality of chances sterling gets are substantially better than harry kane or anyone playing for any other team. city create so many simple chances for their forward players no wonder sterling gets his fair share
By:
themover
When: 20 Nov 18 18:06
so it's impossible for Sterling to be called world class because they are put on a plate for him Laugh
By:
themover
When: 20 Nov 18 18:07
Aguero must be the same Silly
By:
dr . atkins
When: 20 Nov 18 18:27
some nutters who support liverpool on here
By:
tobermory
When: 20 Nov 18 18:55

Nov 20, 2018 -- 12:02AM, scandanavian_haven wrote:


It's ridiculous to say he's one of the first 3 or 4 names on the team sheet.Ederson because the 2nd choice is no where near his level.De Bruyne when fit is irreplaceable.David Silva is nailed on.Aguero is clear first choice over Jesus.Whereas Sterling is interchangable, you could replace him with Mahrez or Sane/play them out wide.De Bruyne and Silva have no real pace but are there for their footballing brain/technical ability, if they had pace they'd be even better.Sterling has pace and that's his main asset,  if he never had pace he'd be nowhere near the team  though Pep has obv improved him I honestly don't think he'd have signed him, never made any attempt when he was with Bayern and they had ageing wingers.I think he is a good player but once he reaches that age when his pace goes around 30 he'll probably be playing for mid table clubs. Don't think he could ever be classed as World Class.Btw, it's stupid people boo him for England, think they can only be Liverpool fans.


Confused You say it's ridiculous for me to say he is one of the first 3 or 4 on the teamsheet but can only list 4 who - you suppose - are chosen before he is. And 2 of those (Ederson & Aguero) are first choice because their competition for that place has been poor. Sterling meanwhile you admit yourself has all kind of players who could play instead of him, and yet, whenever there is a big game (Big 6 or Euro match they feel will not be a stroll) Mahrez, Sane, Bernado Silva, Gundogan may or may not be starting the match. Sterling most definitely will be starting. Pep had Ribery and Robben at Bayern who were gonna be fine for the time Pep was gonna be there so why would he be buying Sterling and then leaving. He could buy anyone to play instead of Sterling,and as you say yourself he could just pick someone else from the squad he has now, but when it really matter he picks Raheem Sterling to start, so I think it's pretty conclusive that Pep rates him very highly.

By:
charwell.
When: 20 Nov 18 18:59
Well he plays for the Premier League Champions and the World Cup Semi Finalists so your criteria for "World Class" must be quite tight.


That means jack sh1t. So does Fabian Delph. England fluked their way to a poor semi final. Sterling was bang average. Sterling is surrounded by world class players at City; De Bruyne, Aguero, Silva...........a title winning team is not full of world class players.

World class simply means one of the games elite players whom is known and revered around the world. Sterling is not such a player. Simples.
By:
themover
When: 20 Nov 18 19:03
Thanks for explaining your criteria, I'm sure some will agree whilst others won't
By:
scandanavian_haven
When: 20 Nov 18 19:05
Ederson - Walker - Fernandiho - D. Silva - De Bruyne - Aguero

6 players are irreplaceable and first on the team sheet - does not matter whether there's competition for their places or not, either because of the 2nd choices are no where near as good or there is no real second choice, also because in Silva/De Bruyne's case they are just superior to everyone else.

Sterling can easily be interchanged with Mahrez or Sane who are either on the same level or above, Mahrez is new to the side and Sterling has been there since the start of peps reign so Mahrez still has to work his way into the team and Sane as everyone knows has had issues, at least Sane and Mahrez know Pep wants them because he bought them.

I didn't say Pep doesn't rate him, but he's about 7th on the team sheet let alone top 3.
By:
tobermory
When: 20 Nov 18 19:18
Sterling is a lock to start any big game. So he is not interchangeable as far as Pep is concerned. Aguero was being rotated when Jesus was playing well, so he can be seen as interchangeable.
By:
scandanavian_haven
When: 20 Nov 18 19:37
Yes but Aguero is now nailed on and is far superior to Jesus, Sterling starts games but he can be replaced with no real concern with said players, whereas the 6 I mentioned, if they were replaced the team would be weakened and are also irreplaceable, well irreplaceable more so in Europe, City need a fit De Bruyne to win in Europe.
By:
scandanavian_haven
When: 20 Nov 18 19:39
You could actually say he's 8th choice on the team sheet as there is Mendy, there's no better left back than Mendy or even close at City atm, but he's injured again.
By:
tobermory
When: 20 Nov 18 19:54
But Sterling being easy to replace is your opinion, there is not really any evidence that Pep sees it like that.
By:
scandanavian_haven
When: 20 Nov 18 20:06
So you're saying that Sterling is better than Mahrez and Sane ? they're on a fairly similar level.

There is no real replacement for the full backs of the same level, same goes for the central defensive midfielder Fernandinho, Ederson in goal and Aguero is just miles better than Jesus.
By:
themover
When: 20 Nov 18 20:08
Can't replace Sterling's pace or movement off the ball, although Rabbi Matondo in the under 23's is the quickest at the club.
By:
charwell.
When: 20 Nov 18 21:19
I beg to differ. Am sure if you put a bag of cash down in front of them both young Raheem would find an extra gear the greedy tw@t.
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