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Same **** different season WESTHAM CHAT
Same **** different season WESTHAM CHAT
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Been handed pretty hard start to the season
Where going need to be at it straight from the off |
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fcking understatement.
Still after them we'll see what we're about this season. |
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If Diagiana is true I'm done with football as a passion. Just for betting purposes from now on.
I don't like Moyes style of play but he seems a decent lad so good luck As for the thieving, scum parasites I hope we go down. They have destroyed everything good about the club. |
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Terrible news and a real kick in the teeth for us.
West Bromwich Albion have agreed an £18 million deal with West Ham United for winger Grady Diangana, with David Moyes ready to use the funds to pursue Said Benrahma. Slaven Bilic’s offer for Diangana has been accepted by his former club, sparking outrage from West Ham supporters, and the 22-year-old is now expected to discuss personal terms at the Hawthorns. Diangana, an England Under-21 international, impressed on loan at West Brom last season and it is understood their bid will reach £18m with add-ons and bonuses. West Ham’s board are under renewed pressure after agreeing to sell one of their highly-regarded youngsters, but will now move for Benrahma, the Brentford winger. Brentford have been demanding £30m for Benrahma after missing out on promotion to the Premier League, yet West Ham are hopeful of striking a compromise at around £20m. The Algeria international was one of the Championship’s stand-out players last season, along with team-mate Ollie Watkins, who is a target for Aston Villa. West Brom, meanwhile, will view the signing of Diangana as a significant coup, if completed, as they prepare for their top-flight return. |
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West Brom have signed West Ham winger Grady Diangana for a fee of £18m.
The 22-year-old spent last season on loan at The Hawthorns, helping them clinch promotion to the Premier League. The former England Under-21 international made 21 appearances for the Hammers after coming through the club's academy. A West Ham statement said the decision to sell Diangana was made "reluctantly but, ultimately in the best interests of the club". West Ham captain Mark Noble tweeted that he was "gutted" Diangana had been sold. MARK NOBLE @Noble16Mark · As captain of this football club I’m gutted, angry and sad that Grady has left, great kid with a great future!!!!! West Ham said: "The money received for Grady will be reinvested entirely in the team, in line with the manager's targets. "We believe that this will give us the best possible chance of ensuring we have a balanced squad to compete in the Premier League and capable of reaching our objectives and ambitions this season." Diangana is Albion's second recruit of the day after they signed defender Cedric Kipre from Wigan Athletic on a four-year deal. The 23-year-old centre-back helped Wigan keep 12 clean sheets in 36 Championship appearances - also scoring twice. Kipre, who was born in Paris but has represented Ivory Coast at youth level and been part of the senior squad, came through at Paris St-Germain before spells with Leicester City and Motherwell. |
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Well done Mark Noble ....not often these days in an era of oppressive self censorship does anyone care to put their head above the parapet. I do realise he's at the end of his career and doesn't have as much to lose as others...still good to see a player calling out your sh1thouse ownership.
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ffaith...you're at the point I was 15years ago with Utd (Manchester).
It's not easy giving up something we've invested so much time & energy too...but I certainly don't regret it, maybe just coincidence but my betting improved significantly over the years since as well. |
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Cheers IDWM I doubt anything will improve my betting but you never know.
"Nowadays people know the price of everything and the value of nothing". As for the board it feels like one betrayal/stab in the back too many. It's not just the sale of the player that hurts it's what he represents. Young, exciting, huge potential and home grown. By all accounts he wanted to stay. A club lacking in loyalty, long term planning and ambition yeah that sends a good message to our other players and we have got other good players. Why the need to sell? We've been in the PL 9 seasons where has the money gone? #gsbout was trending no.1 for a bit that's how despised they are. For some sections of the hammer support (myself included) some of our heroes (Noble, Brookings) have been a bit too pro board for our liking. So the Noble outburst was quite astonishing. Fair play to the lad. This is modern day life people that should be in jail are lording it over us. |
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Same old crap
Another season Where the board totally go against tide sell someone that should not be going any where , where there players like Anderson Lanzini good old jack boy totally past it Rice gone to ground past week on social big move looks likely imo Where I’m sorry state at the back no improvements there Why don’t they just put the club up for sale F off |
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It's looking to me like a sorry state of affairs at the moment and I hope I'm wrong about that but if Noble of all people speaks out then it don't look good. I can't even think about Rice moving as that would be just too much to take.
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Moyes gone before the start of the season?
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He won’t go anywhere unless sacked
Probably his last job in top flight football He knows it |
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Rumours of a tiff between Moyes and Brady and a divided dressing room. Stupid greedy stingy koonts they brought it all down on themselves.
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The Guardian Season Preview for West Ham.
https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2020/sep/11/premier-league-2020-21-preview-no-19-west-ham-united |
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If it didn’t show tonight
Nothing there at all Same **** different season No new signings old pony still on the bench £100 mill old pony Couldn’t give them away Tonails what does he do get a run Shine the boss befor breakfast He don’t know what starting 11 other than ours he get in |
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The sponsors have spotted that all may not be well - West Ham to be relegated was 5/1 with Betway a week ago, 5/2 this morning.
Did you notice that Rice was playing in boots the same colour as a Chelsea shirt! |
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biggest mistake West Ham made was moving to that stadium.
they sold the soul of the club moving to an athletics stadium for the sake of saving huge sums/being helped out by the tax payers. Moyes will probably be first sacked. Best thing that can happen to West Ham is if new owners bought the club, the new owners then bit the bullet and built a brand new stadium elsewhere, one reminiscent of Upton Park with fans (once they do return) as close to the pitch as possible. Only issue with this, is finding such space within relatively close proximity to where Upton Park was, very difficult in an area like that where space is like gold dust and is reflected in the price. |
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I'm sick and tired about the stadium being blamed for every problem that besets our club and the talk of tax payers subsidising us. West Ham were wanting to buy the stadium but the authorities decided they didn't want to sell and negotiated a rental agreement instead. The latest mistake was quite simply hiring Pellegrini on a massive salary to waste nearly 200 million in the transfer market.
With regards to the atmosphere at Upton Park anyone who remembers the ground before the chicken run was demolished will tell you that the ground was never the same after that but all of this belongs in the last century and we are where we are and will just have to live with 30.000 extra people in the ground every week! |
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sparrow have you actually been to the Olympic stadium when fans were allowed? it's the most diluted atmosphere I've experienced and that's as an away fan, cannot be enjoyable for the players, they probably enjoy playing away matches more.
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An away fan of who darren , you still never say
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Although 200 miles away with no car and a little older these days I have attended the stadium and have no problem with it other than the long walk to the station.
As a matter of interest with this being a West Ham thread I echo wolf in asking which team do you support darren? |
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apologies, didn't realise away fans opinions were frowned upon here
 good luck for the season. |
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No darren the point is you are passing opinions on our stadium but I might wish to compare with your ground. I make no secret of my allegiance and I expect other fans to do the same or maybe you are ashamed to say.
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eh? west ham have the only ground in the league with a track around it, made attempts to make that less noticeable of course but still not the same, football stadiums should be as close to the pitch as possible imo, your old stadium still felt much more atmospheric, just an opinion no need to be so defensive, you've also blamed it too much of Pellegrini, it is the owners that sanction every transfer and decide how much, anyway, I'll leave you to it.
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"no need to be defensive" says darren the man who refuses to tell us the team he supports
 I know who I want to blame at my club darren but who to blame at your club we all wonder? |
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Odds refusing to soldier.
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Dds....
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Or is it soldier to refusing odds?
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On a football forum , I fail to see why Darren won't say what team he supports as we all have banter/ windups when our teams lose/wins etc. If someone is passing continual comments on football related matters and won't even say what team he supports, it discredits much of what is said.
The only reason I can think of for Darren not saying who he supports is that he is a betfair employee and not allowed to have a vested interest in any sports team incase of implied bias. Given that there must be a significant amount of free time spent during games, it's not an unreasonable conclusion to come to. |
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Moyes handed all the initiative to them
from the off,playing 1 up front on his own.Antonio is no target man.Negative tactics again at home against a team many think will struggle.Looks like a long hard season again if they don't dramatically improve. |
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If you tell us what team you support Darren, you have my word I'll never mock another bet you make such as the 0-0 prediction that was 3-2 at HT.. can't say fairer than that
 Regarding west ham, I was surprised you went back in for Moyes- living off the back of his time with Everton and seems to be negative about everything when I see him interviewed but hopefully you will have a better season. I actually think Allardyce despite being labelled the anti christ was no where near as bad as many fans make out and dont see Moyes as an upgrade |
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Spurs getting beat as lesson the blow of yesterday
We all know what westham problems are Being ****g useless in sales ring ! The management - owners Are nightmare Westham been the same for many years Treatment of bobby moore Still the same now One good season in 30 years |
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US consortium see second £400m West Ham offer rejected but plan third bid .
The American consortium proposing a takeover of West Ham were rebuffed for a second time after following up their first approach with a £400m offer at the end of last month. It is understood the would-be buyers, who are involved in US sport, were not disheartened after failing with an opening offer of £350m at the start of August. The group remain interested in buying West Ham, who are owned by David Gold and David Sullivan, and have made their intentions clear by returning with a higher offer. Their second bid was not enough to tempt West Ham into a sale. Although Sullivan and Gold have seen their standing with supporters fall since the move to the London Stadium in 2016, it will take a much higher price to convince them to alter their stance. The bidders have entered a cooling-off period and plan to monitor developments before making a fresh bid in the next month. A source has told the Guardian that the group has drafted a seven-year business plan to improve the club’s finances. West Ham, who pay £2.5m a year to rent their ground, made a pre-tax loss of £28.8m in the last financial year and have encountered difficulties because of Covid-19. The consortium, who are exploring the possibility of buying the London Stadium, acknowledge that completing a takeover will be hard. An obvious complication is that the deal under which West Ham moved to the London Stadium includes an agreement that Sullivan and Gold will have to pay a 20% penalty to the taxpayer if the club is sold for more than £300m before March 2023. The bidders accept that Sullivan and Gold, who bought the club in 2010, will want a return on their investment. But the bidders believe that Gold, Sullivan and Karren Brady, the club’s vice-chair, could be under greater pressure if West Ham’s results are poor in the next month. The trio encountered anti-board protests from supporters earlier this year and were strongly criticised following the recent sale of Grady Diangana to West Bromwich Albion. West Ham’s board promised they would challenge at the top of the Premier League after leaving Upton Park. They have made no signings since narrowly avoiding relegation last season and face a daunting run of Premier League fixtures after losing 2-0 to Newcastle in their opening game. Their next six games are against Arsenal, Wolves, Leicester, Tottenham, Manchester City and Liverpool. London Stadium sources have questioned the strength of the group’s interest and pointed out that Premier League clubs receive inquiries on a regular basis. Club sources have also said the group has not supplied proof of funding. The bidders insist their interest is genuine. The value of their first offer was based on the proposed £300m takeover of Newcastle by a Saudi Arabian-led consortium, plus an extra £50m because of West Ham’s London location. The offer was rebuffed by Sullivan, who owns a majority shareholding of 51.5%. Sullivan made it clear he was not interested in a sale and raised the possibility of the bidders investing in a minority stake but the consortium will consider a partial sale only in return for a controlling interest. |
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At this stage it is hard to see how David Gold, David Sullivan and Karren Brady can possibly repair their damaged approval ratings. The trust is gone after four unhappy years at the London Stadium and the majority of West Ham’s supporters are tired of watching their dysfunctional club shed its identity in return for very little on the pitch.
The past few weeks have been draining. After a period of deceptive calm, West Ham unleashed a wave of negativity when they sold Grady Diangana to West Brom for £18m. Even Mark Noble, the captain, joined in the criticism. Selling the best young talent was not part of the brochure when West Ham left Upton Park in 2016 and, following defeat by Newcastle on the opening day of the new season, supporters are hoping for a brighter future following the news that an American consortium is proposing a takeover. There is a long way to go before a change at the top. The US bidders have made two unsuccessful offers: £350m at the start of August, £400m a few weeks later. A deal with the owners, Gold and Sullivan, will be hard. Sullivan, who owns a majority shareholding of 51.5%, delivered a brusque response to the first bid. Although the most important figure at West Ham opened the possibility of investment in return for a minor stake, he said the club is not for sale. A complication is that the deal under which West Ham moved to the London Stadium includes an agreement that Sullivan and Gold will have to pay financial penalties to the taxpayer if the club is sold before March 2023. The bidders, who do not want a partial sale, are waiting. London Stadium sources have questioned the strength of their interest, pointing out that no proof of funding has been supplied. One figure was dismissive about the bid this week. Yet the Americans are preparing a fresh offer and, in the meantime, are monitoring the team’s form. After visiting Arsenal on Saturday evening, in the league West Ham face Wolves, Leicester, Tottenham, Manchester City and Liverpool. The pressure on Gold, Sullivan and Brady, the vice-chair, will grow if results remain poor. It has been a mess since Diangana’s departure. The 22-year-old winger, who spent last season on loan at West Brom, did not want to leave. There was fury when West Ham, who need to sell to raise funds, sold the academy graduate. West Ham argued that selling Diangana would allow David Moyes to focus on defensive reinforcements. But the transfer window shuts next month and West Ham, who have had two bids for Burnley’s centre-back James Tarkowski rejected, have made no signings. With the Covid-19 pandemic hitting the market, money is tight. West Ham made a pre-tax loss of £28.8m in the last financial year and the owners arranged a rights issue to raise £30m during lockdown. Yet moving to the Olympic site was supposed to be transformative and critics point to the interest Sullivan and Gold charge on the loans they made to the club in January 2010. The latest accounts show the pair were paid a combined £2.9m in interest in August 2019 and that a further £1m went to GGI International, a company related to Gold. As of 31 May 2019 the combined balance of unsecured loans advanced by Sullivan and Gold amounted to £45m. Brady’s salary rose to £1.136m. There has been investment in the squad. The problem is that big signings have tended not to work out. Felipe Anderson is out of form. Sébastian Haller does not look a striker worth £45m. Jack Wilshere, who has a year left on a contract worth around £100,000 a week, missed Tuesday’s victory over Charlton in the Carabao Cup with an ankle injury. Sébastien Haller scores for West Ham in the Carabao Cup against Charlton this week. He has not looked a striker worth £45m. The squad is unbalanced and West Ham risk another relegation battle if they fail to strengthen. Issa Diop is struggling in central defence and the full-backs are vulnerable. There is also a lack of depth behind Tomas Soucek and Declan Rice in midfield and Michail Antonio up front. West Ham, who fear a Chelsea bid for Rice, cannot continue in this manner. It has turned into another scramble for signings. Although Sullivan has renewed his involvement in the recruitment process since firing Manuel Pellegrini and the Chilean’s director of football, Mario Husillos, the final decisions are down to Moyes. The Scot has money to spend but is taking his time, leading to frustration at the club. The urgency for movement will grow if West Ham lose to Arsenal. Supporters mounted anti-board protests earlier this year and many will not be satisfied until Sullivan and Gold have left. The fans have not forgotten Brady envisaging “a world-class stadium with a world-class team”. Try saying that with a straight face now. |
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Long standing suffering fan, I don't think I have felt more disheartened after a game than I did after losing to Newcastle, to say we looked lightweight is a huge understatement & made Newcastle average at best look half decent was more than depressing, even my 19 year old son seems to have resigned himself for another perpetual struggle this season already, sad fact is there is no light at the end of a very long tunnel as far as I am concerned.
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We can only hope that the club is sold to people who will genuinely invest in the clubs future but that is a very over optimistic hope at the present time.
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made a bid for the Burnley centre half,then upped
it £1m,are they for real? Matty Cash we were after him by all reports,gone to Villa. They put bids in for players time after time which are laughable and quite frankly a p1ss take on the clubs they play for. |
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David Sullivan Was interviewed on talk sport by one of his brown nose mates Jim White
Says he as no part in who we bring in BOLLOX WE HAVE NO MONEY BOLLOX says had terrible buys true than goes on to say how good they are playing in cup pmsl We haven’t got the money play with boys Well David’s sell up move on if that’s the case Nothing in the interview about selling our young kid To westbrom |
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If we don’t buy few defenders good as down
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West Ham co-owner David Sullivan says he is "getting more depressed" by their lack of signings and insists he wants to avoid a "civil war" at the club.
The Hammers have only signed midfielder Tomas Soucek during the summer transfer window and have started the season with defeats against Newcastle and Arsenal. The results and lack of new faces have angered fans and Sullivan says the financial challenges brought on by Covid-19 are adding to the challenge. "We've got limited funds," he said. Sullivan, 71, told Talksport: "We've also got the fact we'll probably get no gate money for the rest of the season and we've got to keep the club afloat and pay wages. "We've chased dreams the last two years and bought a pile of players who haven't impacted the club, and maybe they will over the coming seasons because there are some damned good players." Last season West Ham signed the likes of strikers Sebastien Haller and Jarrod Bowen, as well as attacking midfielder Pablo Fornals. According to football website Transfermarkt, the club spent £91m in 2018-19 and recouped £13m. In 2019-20 they invested £108m in new faces and brought in £49m. Sullivan says the squad is now "unbalanced" and frustrations at the club have been evident, notably when captain Mark Noble publicly criticised the sale of Grady Diangana to West Brom. a week before the season started. Since the sale, West Ham have made unsuccessful bids for Burnley defender James Tarkowski and Sullivan says he knows manager David Moyes is spending "18 hours a day" looking for players. "I can't just go and sign two or three players the manager doesn't want," Sullivan added. "I could quite easily tomorrow go and sign two or three players but we'd have a civil war at West Ham, because I don't pick the players. We have a manager who is a manager, not a coach; if he was a coach I could do that, but that's not the way it works at West Ham - the managers pick the teams. "I cannot say for sure that we are going to sign anybody. As each day passes I am getting more depressed. "We've now got the funds to buy a player or two, but unfortunately... the players the manager wants we can't get. "We have a number of bids in for a number of players, but teams don't want to lose them... key players at decent sized clubs, outside the UK... so whether we get any of these players I do not know." The transfer window closes on 5 October and West Ham are also being linked with Juventus defender Daniele Rugani. The club is also facing disruption after Moyes and two playing staff tested positive for Covid-19, meaning they must self-isolate and cannot attend training or the fixture against Wolverhampton Wanderers on 27 September. |