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Longest run of games without a win since 1992.

Quite some going.

I thought Xhaka had gone off injured but not so. He should be told to find a new club in January and not risked, it is a gilt-edged opportunity to finally get rid of him. If we do he will prob have to take a pay cut and he is the type of guy who won't do that and will dig his heels in and try to stay beyond Jan. He has the Euros to think about so you could tell him now that he's not going to play much and that would probably do it.

The problem we have is that in the Summer I think Raul agreed the bigger deals with more staggered payments than usual as we certainly didn't have that kind of money to spend in the normal course. That meant we could spend big and still comply with FFP. But it means that we probably won't have as much to spend in the next window or two. In that sense it was a gamble that we'd get CL football with these new players. And paying off Emery will only further eat into the already reduced budget for a new manager.

I have seen figures of £4m and £15m in the media as being the payoff amount and I believe there is an option to extend/break Emery's deal in the Summer. I suspect that if the £15m figure is more accurate it means that if we break the contract before the Summer he is entitled to be paid for next season as well but if we do it in the Summer we can exercise the break. If we can only get out of year 3 by waiting until the Summer that is a big f up by whoever drafted the break/extension clause in his contract.

If the above is accurate then Raul's gambling with finances has backfired miserably too and we will probably have to keep the likes of Xhaka and the other mug players. That will mean we will be out of the running for the top managers as they will go elsewhere and we'll have to go with someone prepared to work under major financial restrictions imo.

Emery said last night 'we are improving', that says to me he knows he is a goner, that the players aren't playing for him and he is trying to force a pay off by making more and more ridiculous statements and making his position more and more untenable. Not sure that's particularly classy but it's understandable.

Raul's deals have certainly hampered any future manager and have affected who we can get in as manager. But agree Wenger and Gazidis' legacy is even worse, signing Ozil on those wages, a marmite player when a new manager was likely, as well as letting top players run down contracts and signing mugs on big wages will hamstring the club for years to come still.

yep gone !!!

All Hail Freddie

Line up for Norwich should be good

Leno

Bellerin
Sokratis
Holding
Tiereny

Chambers
Willock

Pepe
ESR
Reece

Lacazette

Get them kids in there...Tyreece, Balogun and Burton too!

Cash in on Aboomerang, Mustafi and Xhaka in January, Bring Eddie home and get Upamemcano in that back line

thats the whole point  they ll only employ a yes man not a strong personality

allegri was coming last time but wanted 200 mio to spend on the defence, now the number needed is probably larger , and that doesnt even bring the crap midfield into things

this is now beyond repair until the owner sells

literally the only two appointments that would excite me are allegri or simeone, and i think we ve fallen too far now in the last 10 years for either of them to be interested

we wouldnt give them the tools to do the job required anyway

we ve just been mismanaged for far too long and the damage done by wengers last decade is too deep

virtually every player needs replacing

Awww...they let him say goodbye to the players one by one...

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There's only one manager capable of sorting the mess out at the back and he's a nasty piece of work to boot. We should break the bank to lure Simeone across.

I’m in agreement with Sergeant Major Simeone smashing a few heads in...

But the fans in general would need to change their silly attitude of wanting pretty football and accept his brand of football.

Ridicule all u want but it works...we had then down to 10 men for 80 minutes and could only get a 1-1 draw.

But the majority want pretty triangles with Ozil playing the killer pass ffs

There's only one man to sort out this mess- Mourinho, hold up he's gone......

Yes, there are a lot of 'fans' who started supporting Arsenal once they moved to the shiny new stadium with higher ticket prices. These are the fans who revere Arteta as a 'legend' captain and who've never known Arsenal as being a solid, tough side that are hard to beat, which they were for 15 years during which they won their last 5 titles. Unfortunately they make up a large proportion of the support and the Kroenkes will likely listen to them as they are a shower of clueless mugs. Edu and Raul went to the US after the Southampton game to meet the absentee owners. They can't even be arséd to come over for something as serious as a managerial change.

Spurs probably only sacked Poch to make the documentary worth watching.

Poch wont manage arsenal

First arsenal will have to pay the release of the contract that has a termination clause, poch has to be 6 months out of a job first, in that time he will have United or madrid contract offered.

Spurs got Mourinho in before poch went, looks like they had a plan in place after making the decision after the Brighton game!!

Arsenal have sacked Emery without a plan, looks like it a case of looking for what is available!! Wouldn't be surprised is ljungberg is still in charge come 2020

The owners are the problem. Just won't spend. Whoever they get in things unlikely to change much as funds just won't be there. It's being a slowly going downhill for years. Wenger should have gone 2 3 years before he did. The squad needs a complete overhaul that takes money but its not there. Whoever they get in has a massive job on their hands.

half decent central defenders*

They actually don't have much to spend. They have lost their CL income and FFP prevents them from spending more. They had loads of money to spend before FFP was introduced but didn't and a lot of the problems stem from that. The Summer they spent £10m on Cech they should have heavily invested in the squad because the new PL deal had been agreed for the following season by that stage and every club in the league would be getting an extra £30m+ a year from the following season onwards. It was obvious transfer fees and wages would rocket and they had about £200m in reserves that they could have spent without restriction. They still have bags of money but you can't just go out and spend it any more.

Their main issue is their wage bill which is huge. They have a big number of dross players on big wages who will not want to leave because nobody will pay them as much. So you either renew their contracts or let them leave for free and have to replace them. PL FFP rules are even stricter than Uefa FFP rules when it comes to wages. You are not allowed to increase your wage bill by more than £7m a year unless the excess increase comes from increased non-TV income (gate receipts, sponsorships, transfer market profits etc). Gazidis and Wenger gave Ozil a £350k a week deal in their final year and that alone increased the wage bill by more than £7m for Emery's first year. That and letting their top players like Sanchez, Ramsey and Ozil run down their contracts has been terrible financial management and cost the club dearly. There is no quick fix. They would have to pay a club to take Ozil or pay a large chunk of his wages if he were to go to another club. They are stuck with him and that is primarily Wenger's fault. It has hamstrung his successors badly.

Basically Arsenal are a Europa League club paying Champions League wages and it is killing them and there is no quick fix. The media have always potrayed them as a financially prudent, well-run club but they are anything but since Kroenke took control.