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Gambler claiming 250k from C0ral tells court bookie 'cheated' by claiming Rangers weren't relegated
Gambler claiming 250k from C0ral tells court bookie 'cheated' by claiming Rangers weren't relegated
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Coral lawyer asks some sh1t questions
James Doleman @jamesdoleman 1h1 hour ago Sandison notes Rangers won the league in 2010/2011 "can you think of any examples when a league champion came bottom the next year"? 1/2 another witness Fox James Doleman @jamesdoleman 1h1 hour ago Fox replies "it could happen," notes "Leicester are in trouble this year," but agrees it would be "rare" James Doleman @jamesdoleman 1h1 hour ago Sandison 'Odds of 2500/1 would only be offered on an event that wouldn't happen?" They do sometimes happen Fox replies So 2500/1 is only marked up on NON events  They could have got someone who knew about gambling to quiz the old lags |
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Latalomne
Date Joined: 20 Jul 01 Add contact | Send message 18 Jan 17 14:03 Joined: 20 Jul 01 | Topic/replies: 11,157 | Blogger: Latalomne's blog £10 free bet on the what day will tomorrow be market*. *free bet must be on a selection priced at evens or above. STAKE NOT REURNED James Doleman @jamesdoleman 4m4 minutes ago Sandison, for Coral is now nearing the end of Fox's report. Report says odds show "Coral racing were not up to date on the situation." poor coral James Doleman @jamesdoleman 3m3 minutes ago Sandison asks if any other reason for the 2500/1 odds given and if these were unusual for a sporting bet? Fox compares to lottery odds  James Doleman @jamesdoleman 28s28 seconds ago Sandison "14 June 2012 sale of assets from "Oldco to Newco?" he asks Fox "It's all very confusing with the different names" witness says |
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James Doleman @jamesdoleman 44s44 seconds ago
Sandison suggests only one bookmaker offered 5000/1 on Leicester winning the league last season. Normal odds were 2000/1 WOW he's done some research on hid lunch Top lawyers what the feck are these guys getting paid ? |
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Imo, being liquidated is different to relegated. What the punter should have done is asked the question when he placed the bet, basic common sense. I doubt he asked it as he probably knew the answer
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Well he will at least get his £100 back
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James Doleman @jamesdoleman 2m2 minutes ago
Fox says that whatever Coral's position "they never stated it when they accepted the bet." |
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James Doleman @jamesdoleman 1m1 minute ago
Claire"s statement "2500/1 odds would not have been offered if there was a chance of the event happening." Never back 2500/1 shots on Coral no matter what the outcome you won't win  |
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That dirty slimy count Simon Clare on the dock now telling lies
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Clare "whenever someone asks for a bet you have to take into account that they might know something."
Sandison ends questions |
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Big point
Clare agrees there is nothing in Coral's rules that defines what "relegated" means.  |
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James Doleman @jamesdoleman 3m3 minutes ago
Clare says a small bookmaker could have taken Kinloch's bet by "hedging the risk" |
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p_r_e_m_i_e_r__f_a_n_t_a_s_y 18 Jan 17 14:56 Joined: 08 Dec 11 | Topic/replies: 15,348 | Blogger: p_r_e_m_i_e_r__f_a_n_t_a_s_y's blog Big point Clare agrees there is nothing in Coral's rules that defines what "relegated" means. ALBERT rubbing his hands now |
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They got relegated imo same club or not
The club in that league got relegated |
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Clare all over the shop now, cannot answer anything
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QC now shows Clare a printout of an article from Coral's website
Rangers are back in the big time..After being relegated." PAY THE MAN!!! |
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PAY THE MAN
C0RAL going to look bad win or lose Dragging this to court and making a meal of it |
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We also now know never back 2500/1 shots as we won't be paid as that price is illegal by Coral it seems
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Rangers are back in the big time..After being relegated."
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ValderramasHair @ValderramasHair 7m7 minutes ago
Everyone knows this guys a wrong un. Yet still the joy of twitter seeing a bookie get a shoeing is limitless. Go on ALBERT |
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ValderramasHair @ValderramasHair 4m4 minutes ago
@Yes_IamSancho Guy with the ticket has taken them to court, he a bit of a character and they are trying to wiggle out via technicality. Old lags running coral lawyers ragged here |
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Vaughan Williams says he wrote his report based based on documentation. Counsel notes report has wrong date for Rangers liquidation
throw it out |
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Vaughan Williams says only one bookmaker offered 5000/1 on Leicester winning the league. He would have offered 2000/1
what a fkin shrooooodie Take it he availed of the 5000s so |
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https://twitter.com/_shauny_mac/status/821740870005391360
Shauny Mac @_shauny_mac Live shot of Si Clare leaving the stand #Coral #Kinloch |
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James Doleman @jamesdoleman 2m2 minutes ago
Counsel notes bet does not say "Rangers to go down on points" or "Rangers to be relegated in May" Witness agrees  |
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Vaughen Williams is going to be late for tea, his mammy won't be happy
Witness says he has booked flight home. Judge says court to sit until 4.30 |
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James Doleman @jamesdoleman 3m3 minutes ago
Counsel says Trump started at long odds which went down "it didn't change the meaning of the bet" she suggests Donald Trump getting a mention |
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If any of you have kids / relatives or friends going to Nottingham Trent University please god give them some money to go somewhere better if this is the level of "professor's" there
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I thought coral would have had hot shot lawyers
the 2 old lags are tearing them a new one one and two word answer also you can't get into those heads and wind them up can you uni degree fecks |
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@jamesdoleman
Vaughan Williams "just because you don't state something applies doesn't mean it doesn't apply.' So no need to read the rules like they always say as they can just say ah we never put that one in |
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Leighton V_Williams
@LeightonVW Leighton Vaughan Williams. Econ Prof; Dir. Betting Research & Political Forecasting Units, Nottm. Business School (top 5% - world rankings). Magician. European. |
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Did Coral offer anything out of court ? can't find anything
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They never go public with settlement amounts or offers, they wouldn't want the court knowing that an offer was even made.
Has there been a scenario where a team were 'demoted' / 'liquidated' for financial irregularities but also finished in the relegation places too? Like a portsmouth type situation? If there is a similar scenario then did Corals pay out on bets to be relegated in that case? That's what his lawyers should be looking for |
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usually when teams have been deducted points
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JC1326
Imo, being liquidated is different to relegated. The liquidation is irrelevant JC as everybody (except most celtic fans ) are in agreement that it was the holding company who were liquidated and not the teamFIFA,UEFA, SFA and 3 Law Lords have all stated this. So team not liquidated but argument is that is there a difference between relegation and demotion. Corals rules don't make any mention of demotion which might very well sway the judge to side with the punter. Pay Albert what he is due! |
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Give this Old boy his mustard corals you tight arses
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I got faith in the courts for once
Coral lawyers fooked up big time I know how ALBERT feels i went through this a few days ago  |
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they always state it is final league standings which payout is made on, so even if liquidated post-season whilst in the relegation places you've still been relegated prior to being liquidated
Won't pay out and shouldn't. I'm pretty sure they didn't finish last and another team was relegated. They were pumped out all divisions when they were liquidated. If they priced up the market on the basis that one team would be relegated then the fact that one was and one team ceased to exist then they can't be expected to pay out on two teams surely. |