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By:
TheChaser
When: 19 Jan 17 14:54

Jack Hacksaw 19 Jan 17 14:52 Joined: 08 Jan 02 | Topic/replies: 3,116 | Blogger: Jack Hacksaw's blog
So every bet where bookies lose is a mistake?!


So they say

Look at this quote form yesterday


James Doleman ‏@jamesdoleman  1h1 hour ago
Sandison  'Odds of 2500/1 would only be offered on an event that wouldn't happen?"

They do sometimes happen Fox replies
By:
donny osmond
When: 19 Jan 17 14:55
bookies offer bets in excess of 2500/1 all the time

can we get a refund on all of our mug accas ?
By:
TheChaser
When: 19 Jan 17 14:55
Yes Poole punters side
By:
wondersobright
When: 19 Jan 17 14:55

Jan 19, 2017 -- 2:51PM, TheChaser wrote:


James Doleman ‏@jamesdoleman  3m3 minutes agoPoole notes bookies gave 5000/1 odds on Leicester City winning the league"They make mistakes" she suggestsAnd he just gets hit with this all the timeNo wonder they call them Kangaroo courts


that's his own QC trying to defend him

neither side is interpreting the correct protocol imo

By:
Jack Hacksaw
When: 19 Jan 17 14:57
Brief should have used the analogy of picking up pennies in front of a steamroller.

One day, you will get caught out.
By:
TheChaser
When: 19 Jan 17 14:57
donny osmond 19 Jan 17 14:55 Joined: 02 Mar 08 | Topic/replies: 67,721 | Blogger: donny osmond's blog
bookies offer bets in excess of 2500/1 all the time

can we get a refund on all of our mug accas ?


I'll have a scroll through my 100+ bookie accounts since earlys 2000s Grin

Might need to call up some relatives that never knew i used their names for free bets etc but they should be kl with that
By:
Shrewd_dude
When: 19 Jan 17 14:57
neither side is interpreting the correct protocol imo

Or James Doleman isn't.
By:
Jack Hacksaw
When: 19 Jan 17 15:02
As this was 2014 or whenever, has the barrister asked Coral if they have altered their T & C to clear up any ambiguity.
By:
TheChaser
When: 19 Jan 17 15:02

wondersobright 19 Jan 17 14:55 Joined: 13 Jun 06 | Topic/replies: 37,229 | Blogger: wondersobright's blog
Jan 19, 2017 -- 2:51PM, TheChaser wrote:

James Doleman ‏@jamesdoleman  3m3 minutes agoPoole notes bookies gave 5000/1 odds on Leicester City winning the league"They make mistakes" she suggestsAnd he just gets hit with this all the timeNo wonder they call them Kangaroo courts

that's his own QC trying to defend him

neither side is interpreting the correct protocol imo




Yeah i mean Judge keeps getting told 2500/1 was too high

But Kinlochs defence just say 500/1

It's basically 2500/1 is wrong err but Leicester 5000

10 mins later repeat #


Dolan is having technical issues ( phoned died probably ) just as he was building a twitter following
By:
Jack Hacksaw
When: 19 Jan 17 15:04
'Poole ends, Sandison for Coral rises and begins by accusing Kinloch of "concealing his vast background in gambling" and being "self serving"'

Clearly there is a requirement for gambling with Corals that you must not have done much of it before.
By:
TheChaser
When: 19 Jan 17 15:04
How much would Kinloch cash out for now

I say 100k and run
By:
Jack Hacksaw
When: 19 Jan 17 15:05
Id take £100k if I was him.
By:
Outpost
When: 19 Jan 17 15:05
punter is obviously dodgier than the bookie in this case as he thought he could pull a fast one.

rangers weren't relegated - even with a points deduction they weren't in a relegation spot.

they were thrown out of the league because of financial problems - some legitimate and some imagined.
By:
wondersobright
When: 19 Jan 17 15:07
that's exactly my understanding of it outpost

defo pulling a fast 1 but does have a case that there is ambiguity and coral should have offered an ex gratia payment before it ever got to this stage
By:
loui
When: 19 Jan 17 15:08
Even if the judge favours the bookie, should still recommend they still have to cough up 40% of bet because of the ambiguity side of it. Can see that **** Clare on morning line on sat "and as a goodwill gesture we gave him 10k"
By:
Jack Hacksaw
When: 19 Jan 17 15:08
Sometimes Corals man doth protest too much.

Whether it is Oldco/Newco, 'relegation' of demotion, or whether the odds were too high.

Typical lawyer tactics
By:
wondersobright
When: 19 Jan 17 15:08
wonder if pre-court he would have accepted 10k which would have been 100 quid @ 100/1??
By:
TheChaser
When: 19 Jan 17 15:09
I wonder what if he was offered his £100 back when he tried to collect
By:
wondersobright
When: 19 Jan 17 15:09

Jan 19, 2017 -- 3:08PM, loui wrote:


Even if the judge favours the bookie, should still recommend they still have to cough up 40% of bet because of the ambiguity side of it. Can see that **** Clare on morning line on sat "and as a goodwill gesture we gave him 10k"


if found in coral's favour the bet is a loser and his £100 is history

By:
Shrewd_dude
When: 19 Jan 17 15:09
I'd be wary of believing everything on twitter is an accurate summing up of what is happening. I don't see how he gets paid out in this. Rangers ceased to exist in any league in Scotland for a period of time due to the fact they were liquidated then re applied to the first devision and then the third division. That is so far away from relegation as it could possibly be.
By:
wondersobright
When: 19 Jan 17 15:09
who is paying his court fees btw??
By:
Jack Hacksaw
When: 19 Jan 17 15:10
Does judge have discretion to say 'Make it £100k'.

I am not sure.
By:
TheChaser
When: 19 Jan 17 15:10
Case should be void anyway


Payout should be 250k plus his 100 stake back
By:
Shrewd_dude
When: 19 Jan 17 15:11
Does judge have discretion to say 'Make it £100k'.

I am not sure.


No either the contract means one thing or it doesn't he can't just make it up.
By:
Jack Hacksaw
When: 19 Jan 17 15:12
I dont think he will get paid out.

Bias of judiciary towards fine and outstanding corporate body against low-life gambler.
By:
Jack Hacksaw
When: 19 Jan 17 15:12
Thats what I thought, shrewd. Ta
By:
TheChaser
When: 19 Jan 17 15:13
This is my Coral accounts status

Your account is currently suspended
Please contact our Customer Service team by clicking on Live Chat or by using any of the options below and we'll be happy to help you.
- Call from UK:    0800 44 0011
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By:
loui
When: 19 Jan 17 15:13
Judges don't do cash outs lols
By:
TheChaser
When: 19 Jan 17 15:14
So is there no Jury ?
By:
wondersobright
When: 19 Jan 17 15:15
correct
By:
TheChaser
When: 19 Jan 17 15:16
Should have had 12 Betfair pros on the Jury
By:
TheChaser
When: 19 Jan 17 15:17
Judge rules Coral and walks out with Brown Envelope
By:
TheChaser
When: 19 Jan 17 15:17
Mind you this is a Glaswegian he could have the Judge bought

No wonder it's in Edinburgh
By:
Biscar Two from a mile back
When: 19 Jan 17 15:18
Sandison "Rangers were not moved to a lower league " - you sure about that ?
By:
wondersobright
When: 19 Jan 17 15:19

Jan 19, 2017 -- 3:16PM, TheChaser wrote:


Should have had 12 Betfair pros on the Jury


Laugh

torture would be legalised and capital punishment would be back in an instant if betfair forumites were given free reign Laugh

By:
TheChaser
When: 19 Jan 17 15:20
James Doleman ‏@jamesdoleman  5m5 minutes ago
Sandison tells the court the word "relegation" comes from ancient Rome from when someone was exiled after displeasing the emperor.



Bringing in the Romans now FFS
By:
wondersobright
When: 19 Jan 17 15:21

Jan 19, 2017 -- 3:18PM, Biscar Two from a mile back wrote:


Sandison "Rangers were not moved to a lower league " - you sure about that ?


that's factually correct biscar

they were liquidated and expunged from all leagues
a new company was formed comprising elements of the old club, ibrox etc and they were invited into div 3 after a vote by SFL clubs

By:
TheChaser
When: 19 Jan 17 15:21
wondersobright
wondersobright 19 Jan 17 15:19 Joined: 13 Jun 06 | Topic/replies: 37,235 | Blogger: wondersobright's blog
Jan 19, 2017 -- 3:16PM, TheChaser wrote:

Should have had 12 Betfair pros on the Jury

Laugh

torture would be legalised and capital punishment would be back in an instant if betfair forumites were given free reign Laugh
Grin

Angry mob outside would be waiting to lynch Clare
By:
wondersobright
When: 19 Jan 17 15:23
guantanamo wouldn't be sufficient for dealing with clare
By:
TheChaser
When: 19 Jan 17 15:25
Excited
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