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Any ( honest ) views on Mr A Wenger ?
Any ( honest ) views on Mr A Wenger ?
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95% of managers do not manage one of the 10 biggest clubs in the world
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we are the biggest club in terms of what we charge our fans
 still we dont need to buy in january again thatll save a few bob  |
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I wonder what his excuses are tonight
I reckon he'll use this one : Bournemouth having had an extra days rest will be the one ? |
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He's blaming the Ref again Today. His team thumped a bunch of kids last weekend in the FA cup.
Arsenal fans must be doubting him now. Only a matter of time before Sanchez loses patience with him just like so many have in the last 10yrs. |
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Should go at end of season!
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Mark Warburton will be available in the summer
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The press ( Ian Wright ) reckon this could be his last season as Manager of the club. Ian said something a long the lines of Mr Wenger is p'eed off with all the grief he's now receiving?
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With a bag of sweets and a cheeky smile....
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I've criticised him on many occasions but a small part of me feels somewhat sorry for him. Perhaps we have all been a little to hard on the guy ?
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/38943962
Arsene Wenger says he did not give any indication on his future as Arsenal manager to Ian Wright, after the Gunners legend claimed the Frenchman was "coming to the end". Ian Wrong. |
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Mr Happys Reaction:
"It's difficult to explain," he told BT Sport. "Just before half-time we had two good chances to score. We came back and played well. In the second half we lost Koscielny very quickly - he came off at 1-1 - and finally we collapsed. "It's difficult when we collapsed - and Bayern were the better team as well. I felt the third goal was a killer for our players because after that we had no response. "The real problems were after the third goal. We lost our organisation and we looked mentally jaded and vulnerable from that moment onwards. The last 25 minutes was a nightmare for us." Wenger also agreed that his side now require 'miracles' to make the last eight, and will be pouring over the footage in search of why his defence fell to pieces as Bayern ran riot. "The two goals (second and third) were difficult to swallow - 53 and 56 minutes," he added. "We have to analyse that. It looked like we lost our organisation. Not only did we lose our centre-back, but a combination of mentality and organisation. Before that, we controlled them quite well." Can he also explain what happened against Watford ? He's always got some excuse as he had when Bournemouth were 3-0 up !!!! |
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He's doing a damn fine job. I'd like to see him sign a new contract and become Arsenal manager for life.
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Just imagine Sofaking, when we get in a proper manager you will be
trailing in our wake for another 20 odd years. |
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Wenger inherited a great back four when he took over at Arsenal and Dennis Berkamp, who Bruce Rioch brought in the previous season. He made a couple of astute purchases and we had a team. But on the pitch the team required very little managing as Tony Adams et al did that job for him. Sol Campbell did the same job a few years later. Wenger did let the team express themselves and his new coaching techniques and diets extended the life of some of the older players.
He has done a great deal for Arsenal. They now appear in every top ten list in the world concerning finances, support etc etc. The new stadium and training grounds were also built under his guidance. We made a lot of money, we were always in the Champions League. But for me he has never been a great coach. As soon as those great players were gone he was exposed. Just look at our team sheets in those early days as well, it was a magnificent squad and compared favourably to any in Europe. We should have won more, we never won a Champions League with that team and they were good enough. Ferguson would have led that team to glory in Europe. He has now outstayed his welcome and is rapidly undoing the good things he did with the club in the early days. |
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Agree totally Muttley, but the Italians were at the forefront of diets etc not Wenger.
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Yes, but he was the first to bring those methods to England with supplements etc.
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Sofa - its Wenger that buys the players, forms the tactics, organizes the formations etc on the training ground. There is so much wrong that its difficult to know where to start.
He's had his day and its time for him to move on. Arsenal need a new man to move the club forwards. It might not happen straight away, may take a couple of years. |
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muttley excellent summarisation
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It's very simple.
This man manages a football team. The team is in the Premier League. The team is in the Champions League. Unlike some teams, it does not a sugar-daddy with £250m a year to spend on new players. In the absence of a heap of money, such as Chelsea and Man City, who would do better? |
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It's very simple.
This man manages a football team. The team is in the Premier League. The team is in the Champions League. Unlike some teams, it does not a sugar-daddy with £250m a year to spend on new players. In the absence of a heap of money, such as Chelsea and Man City, who would do better? |
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20 years ago,he was 10 years ahead of his time
Today, he is 10 years behind the times |
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Arsenal must have outspent Chelsea by quite a bit in recent years in terms of net spend.
Wenger has spent like 200m in the last 3 seasons, and I'm pretty sure more was available if he wished, so the idea they don't have the money to compete is a myth. |
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Their wage bill is enormous as well like the likes of Theo Walcott on £110,000+ per week.
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Last 3 years Arsenal's net spend is 188m.
Chelsea's net spend is 15m over same period. And yet people still roll out cliche's how they don't have the money. It doesn't help that Gary Neville pretty much said this on Sky Sports like a week ago, maybe someone should show him those figures. |
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Arsenal actually spend quite a bit of money when you consider they barely make anything back on transfers themselves. And like I say I'm pretty sure Wenger could have easily spent another 100m over that time frame if he wished, but chose not to which would take them in line with Man Utd (280m) and Man City (322m).
And wages aren't a massive factor either. Utd, City, Chelsea are paying around 10% more in wages which equates to around 20m. |
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At a European level which is relevant given recent events it's even more embarrassing as Arsenal are paying higher wages than Bayern Munich and have far outspent them in the transfer market (62m net spend over last 3 seasons).
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Interesting. Unpleasant reading if you're an Arsenal fan though.
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Arsenal are the seventh richest club in the world with huge cash reserves, saying they can't compete the transfer market is nonsense.
Trouble is, imho, since Dein left they don't really have anyone above Wenger with any football credibility, so Wenger has been left with more powers than any other manager I can think of. They have an owner in Kroenke who is in it just for investment purposes and therefore having reliable old Wenger there delivering CL qualification has kept him past his sell by date. When Wenger does go, which is probably in the summer, Arsenal have more than just a managers role to fill. |
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arsenals two richest owners have around 5 times as much money as roman abramovich
one is a tight **** and the other cant gain control of the club the money argument is absolute **** |
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Eddie Howe?
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Kroenke has to be a big problem. I always see him get quoted as saying "he didn't buy Arsenal to win trophies". If that's true I don't know how there aren't mass protests against him.
It won't surprise me if Arsenal struggle after Wenger, and then people will play the "see shouldn't have got rid of Wenger" card. Firstly I don't trust the board to make the right appointment at all, it's often cited look at Man Utd, but Man Utd was because they made an awful appointment after Fergie, but can easily see Arsenal doing similar. Secondly the next manager could easily be coming into a rabble, Sanchez definitely looks like he will be going for starters, and they might not even have CL football. Can easily end into a situation that will play into those that are for Wenger staying's hands down the line, when in truth that is probably the argument for why he should have gone years ago, he could have left a club with strong foundations years ago, instead he'll likely leave a club in turmoil losing some of its best players. If Sanchez goes Arsenal will likely need to splash the heavy cash to truly replace him which likely means £60m+, £200k+ a week on 1 player, but can you see that actually happening? |
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Who Arsenal employ will likely be telling.
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Here's the PP market for next permanent Arsenal manager: My pick is Piers Morgan 500/1.
M Allegri 7/2 R Martinez 40/1 Harry Redknapp 100/1 T Tuchel 4/1 Paul Clement 40/1 David Moyes 100/1 Eddie Howe 5/1 Roy Hodgson 50/1 George Graham 100/1 Diego Simeone 9/1 Jurgen Klopp 50/1 Andre Vilas-Boas 100/1 Rafael Benitez 12/1 Phil Scolari 50/1 Martin O'Neill 100/1 P Vieira 12/1 Jose Mourinho 50/1 Dick Advocaat 100/1 Joachim Loew 14/1 Pep Guardiola 50/1 Ruud Gullit 100/1 Ronald Koeman 16/1 Dragan Stojkovic 50/1 Steve McClaren 100/1 Carlo Ancelotti 20/1 Boro Primorac 50/1 Martin Jol 100/1 R Hasenhuttl 20/1 F De Boer 50/1 Glenn Hoddle 100/1 L Enrique 20/1 M Pochettino 50/1 Jean Tigana 100/1 Roberto Mancini 25/1 Slaven Bilic 50/1 Sir Alex Ferguson 100/1 Laurent Blanc 25/1 C Puel 50/1 Sam Allardyce 125/1 Thierry Henry 25/1 Remi Garde 66/1 Raymond Domenech 125/1 Brendan Rodgers 25/1 Louis Van Gaal 66/1 Tony Adams 125/1 Jurgen Klinsmann 33/1 Frank Rijkaard 66/1 David O'Leary 150/1 Didier Deschamps 33/1 Sven Goran Eriksson 66/1 Jeremy Clarkson 400/1 Steve Bould 33/1 Michael Laudrup 66/1 Gunnersaurus 400/1 Guus Hiddink 40/1 Fabio Capello 66/1 Piers Morgan 500/1 Dennis Bergkamp 40/1 Marco van Basten 80/1 Nicky Henderson 500/1 Manuel Pelligrini 40/1 Marcello Lippi 100/1 |
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seems to be a happy go lucky cocoon at arsenal for so long and have a squad that should do better .. he has taken them to high places in c.l that they may not get under a new man ..
maybe an IDEA to nurse in a bright future manager to assist . M r WENGER .. TO SEE HOW ROPES LIE . ?? ..been in the french vane .. thats struggled of late .. but PSG are turning the corner after a good show mid week .. ..which has been on the cards for some time ....interesting now as the Spanish Sides getting older .. if the new breed are really ready to step up to the plate .. all to play for at Arsenal if they take shackles off .. no idea where they start .. and neither do present owners ..?? GAME IS COMING INTO A TRANSITIONAL PERIOD WHERE MONEY WILL GET CUT .. FOR T.V. |
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David Moyes 100/1
Roy Hodgson 50/1 George Graham 100/1 Steve McClaren 100/1 Martin Jol 100/1 PMSL when I saw them True price should be about 1,000,000/1 |
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wenger been v ery clever today saying he,s staying management even if its not with arsenal,imagine him been successful somewhere else whilst gunners getting bored to death by raffa for example
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