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By:
Blockfire
When: 15 May 15 07:15
How did you manage to mix up Hull with Swansea and your called Welshie LaughGrin
By:
Welshie5121
When: 16 May 15 15:53

May 15, 2015 -- 7:15AM, Blockfire wrote:


How did you manage to mix up Hull with Swansea and your called Welshie


Haha, thanks for that.

By:
Welshie5121
When: 16 May 15 15:53
11/5/15 - Over 0.5 @ HT

Arsenal v Swansea @ 1.31 won

£100 stakes = £31.00 return

Running p/l = £36.00 (excluding commission)
By:
Welshie5121
When: 16 May 15 15:57
16/5/15 - Over 0.5 @ HT

Tottenham v Hull @ 1.3
Burnley v Stoke @ 1.38
Sunderland v Leicester @ 1.35
West Ham v Everton @ 1.3
By:
towny
When: 16 May 15 16:05
:D
By:
Welshie5121
When: 16 May 15 17:30
16/5/15 - Over 0.5 @ HT

Tottenham v Hull @ 1.3 won
Burnley v Stoke @ 1.38 lost
Sunderland v Leicester @ 1.35 lost
West Ham v Everton @ 1.3 won

£100 stakes = -£140.00 return

Running p/l = -£104.00 (excluding commission)
By:
The Special One™
When: 20 May 15 21:53
Arsenal 0 Sunderland 0

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By:
lurka
When: 21 May 15 10:16
why half-time for every match? Half-time is not the opportune time for every single match. The prices will be more or less the same but some will look a lot better than others on paper at least. Stick to the most likely matches and ask yourself is there a better time in the second half to go in at a higher price
By:
Welshie5121
When: 25 May 15 15:05
20/5/15 - Over 0.5 @ HT

Arsenal v Sunderland @ 1.34
By:
Welshie5121
When: 25 May 15 15:06
20/5/15 - Over 0.5 @ HT

Arsenal v Sunderland @ 1.34 lost

£100 stakes = -£100 return

Running p/l = -£204.00 (excluding commission)
By:
Welshie5121
When: 25 May 15 15:10
24/5/15 Over 0.5 @ HT

Crystal Palace v Swansea @1.32
Hull v Manchester United @ 1.34
Newcastle v West Ham @ 1.32
By:
Welshie5121
When: 25 May 15 15:12
24/5/15 Over 0.5 @ HT

Crystal Palace v Swansea @1.32 won
Hull v Manchester United @ 1.34 lost
Newcastle v West Ham @ 1.32 won

£100 stakes = -£36.00 return

Running p/l = -£240.00 (excluding commission)
By:
Welshie5121
When: 25 May 15 15:15
This hasn't even come close to working. Will have to re-evaluate for next season.

Thanks for peoples input, it has all been appreciated.

See you in two months.
By:
sugarfoot
When: 25 May 15 15:38
What is the basis of this idea?  I can't see what the logic is

fwics in the last five seasons 551 PL games have been 0-0 at HT, 145 have finished 0-0, so 406/551 winners.

So to break even (before commission) you would have to have backed at an average of 1.357.  With 4% comm, you are look at 1.372 just to break even.  What is your average (winning) back price?  Do you expect to beat that price consistently?
By:
Charlie
When: 25 May 15 15:49
Welshie
I think the most important thing you've done on this thread is tell the truth.  Well done.
By:
The Special One™
When: 25 May 15 16:08

May 25, 2015 -- 3:15PM, Welshie5121 wrote:


This hasn't even come close to working. Will have to re-evaluate for next season.Thanks for peoples input, it has all been appreciated.See you in two months.


As i said many times in this thread it wont work

Because it is exatcly the same as laying 0-0 except your laying 0-0 at HT so you get to lay the 0-0 price at half what it was at KO

So if laying 0-0 doesnt work in the long term then why would this work? Just becuase you lay 0-0 at HT rather than before KO doesnt mean thee is more chance of a goal in the 2nd half

With 0-0 yo wull win a lot of bets but 1 0-0 will wipr out many winning bets and yoru back to square one


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By:
sugarfoot
When: 25 May 15 17:10
Because it is exatcly the same as laying 0-0 except your laying 0-0 at HT so you get to lay the 0-0 price at half what it was at KO

you don't add prices of separate events, you multiply them

the op may have had a point if he had noticed a pricing inefficiency at half-time that could be exploited
By:
The Special One™
When: 25 May 15 17:18

May 25, 2015 -- 5:10PM, sugarfoot wrote:


Because it is exatcly the same as laying 0-0 except your laying 0-0 at HT so you get to lay the 0-0 price at half what it was at KOyou don't add prices of separate events, you multiply themthe op may have had a point if he had noticed a pricing inefficiency at half-time that could be exploited


Irrespective of price though

Look at laying 0-0 before KO - loads of challenges for this have been done on here and they all failes

So all this opening poster is doing is axctly the same thing but making a move at HT rather than before KO

The fact that a 0-0 lay bet has now been placed at HT just does in any way increase the chance of a goal being scored in the game, if the game was going to end a 0-0 it will still end 0-0

This is the thing you are going to catch some 0-0's when doing a laying 0-0 bet before KO, So the fact you make a move later int he game is going to give the same result if your going to catch a 0-0

As for the price, well of course its going to be of more value because your not laying 0-0 for 90mins you are laying 0-0 now for just 45mins

And if the 1st half as a dull dire borefest with no shots on goal then the 0-0 price will be lower than half what oif the 0-0 price just before KO

By:
never give up
When: 25 May 15 18:50
waccoe75 • May 24, 2015 10:16 PM BST

    May 24, 2015 -- 9:56PM, never give up wrote:


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minus 204 to £10 level stakes now as TSO only does £100/£150 stakes hes about 3k down in 20 days LaughLaughLaughLaugh but as he don't bet hes on zero LaughLaugh
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GRANTCKING • May 24, 2015 10:18 PM BST
-3k, jesus tso thats a lot of paper money
By:
never give up
When: 25 May 15 18:51
sorry wrong thread Wink
By:
sugarfoot
When: 26 May 15 13:31
Irrespective of price though

Look at laying 0-0 before KO - loads of challenges for this have been done on here and they all failes

So all this opening poster is doing is axctly the same thing but making a move at HT rather than before KO

The fact that a 0-0 lay bet has now been placed at HT just does in any way increase the chance of a goal being scored in the game, if the game was going to end a 0-0 it will still end 0-0

This is the thing you are going to catch some 0-0's when doing a laying 0-0 bet before KO, So the fact you make a move later int he game is going to give the same result if your going to catch a 0-0

As for the price, well of course its going to be of more value because your not laying 0-0 for 90mins you are laying 0-0 now for just 45mins

And if the 1st half as a dull dire borefest with no shots on goal then the 0-0 price will be lower than half what oif the 0-0 price just before KO


for some reason you have basically repeated what you said the first time without really thinking about what I had typed

the price is all important.  if the op had spotted an systematic misprice, if the 0-0 price at half-time was lower than statistical likelihood, then he may have had a point.  in fact if he had noticed such a misprice at any consistent point in the game, then he may have had a basis for his method.  it may look like the same strategy to you, but if there are different rules to entry (or exit) points, then it is a different strategy.

the problem is that he has no evidence to support what he is doing, and in fact the data seems to show a less bad outcome by backing 0-0 instead of laying it.  that's the only thing that really matters
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