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By:
Lifter
When: 07 Mar 15 23:49
im talking about having knowledge and thinking there will be a late goal... not just doing randomly on any game btw
By:
Just Checking
When: 07 Mar 15 23:50
Lifter I see what you're saying, TSO ... anyway.
By:
The Special One™
When: 07 Mar 15 23:50

Mar 7, 2015 -- 11:47PM, Lifter wrote:


you're forgetting a huge diff in odds


I have mentioned the lower liability

But it is still the same as laying 0-0 before KO, let me demonstrate it

Lets take punterA and PunterB

PunterA lays 0-0 before KO

PunterB only lays 0-0 at HT if the score at HT is 0-0

Now the % profit and loss both punterA and punterB will make is the same

By:
The Special One™
When: 07 Mar 15 23:51
Both rely on not being hit by a 0-0
By:
Just Checking
When: 07 Mar 15 23:53
Ok I'll explain this in laymans terms.

TSO you are taking a massively helicopter view that what will be will be. TOO helicopter.

THESE guys are making the observation that in some games, statistically, they may change at HT, so it's not linear, as a statistic, across the game. Some teams may be happy with 0-0. Some only brighten up second half. Etc. Etc.

This is quite obvious, I know you've been kicking about the forums for years so I can't understand if you're being deliberately obtuse, or just don't understand the basics of how someone might observe and obtain an edge?!
By:
Blockfire
When: 07 Mar 15 23:54
You could say that about any market thought TSO. Say punter A gets on a team to win at the start and Punter B gets on at half time, Punter B is having the better oh the deal because of better odds. Same with laying the 0-0 at half time.
By:
The Special One™
When: 07 Mar 15 23:56

Mar 7, 2015 -- 11:54PM, Blockfire wrote:


You could say that about any market thought TSO. Say punter A gets on a team to win at the start and Punter B gets on at half time, Punter B is having the better oh the deal because of better odds. Same with laying the 0-0 at half time.


Yes but PunterB will also miss out if goal in 1st half

By:
The Special One™
When: 07 Mar 15 23:57
Don't forget the OP is only laying 0-0 if score at HT is 0-0

If there is a goal in 1st half then the punter that lays 0-0 at HT missed out altoghther
By:
Blockfire
When: 07 Mar 15 23:57
Im out of this im going back to betting on South American football Laugh
By:
The Special One™
When: 08 Mar 15 00:07
This really is simple, you can tell if this is going to be profitable or not by looking at the stats over the last say 5 to 10 premier league seasons to see what of results were 0-0

If this percentage is in your favour say less than 20% then you can profit laying 0-0 at HT or pre kick off by betting with a staking plan to use the % in your favour

So just by looking at the stats you can answer the question that the opening poster is trying to answer (is laying the 0-0 at half time if score is 0-0 profitable) without even risking a penny

Anyway good luck with it hope it works whoever is on it, im just not convinced
By:
Just Checking
When: 08 Mar 15 00:13
Blockfire I love south american football.

Argentinian 0-0s PUT MY QUINTUPLETS THROUGH COLLEGE!*



* I don't have quintuplets.
By:
Blockfire
When: 08 Mar 15 00:14

Mar 8, 2015 -- 12:13AM, Just Checking wrote:


Blockfire I love south american football. Argentinian 0-0s PUT MY QUINTUPLETS THROUGH COLLEGE!** I don't have quintuplets.


LaughLaugh Because I work nights its my favourite.

By:
Just Checking
When: 08 Mar 15 00:23
Sorry blockfire, little joke to myself for two reasons :)
1. I made a similar joke about twins through college cos I made money on tonights RM loss and Barca a couple weeks ago ;)
and
2. I used to (when I had time) get involved in the argie games and SO MANY were 0-0 it was so funny, and so many would sit on the match threads in anger having blown their bank on overs on a game that was like 8.0 0-0 at kick off :)
By:
Blockfire
When: 08 Mar 15 00:26
Ha, thats uneducated punters for you Laugh
By:
Welshie5121
When: 14 Mar 15 17:25
14/3/15 - Over 0.5 @ HT

Leicester v Hull - @ 1.44
By:
Welshie5121
When: 17 Mar 15 00:54
14/3/15 - Over 0.5 @ HT

Leicester v Hull - @ 1.44 lost

£100 stakes = -£100.00

Running p/l = -£10.00 (excluding commission)
By:
Welshie5121
When: 17 Mar 15 00:55
15/3/15 - Over 0.5 @ HT

Swansea v Liverpool - @ 1.33
By:
Welshie5121
When: 17 Mar 15 00:56
15/3/15 - Over 0.5 @ HT

Swansea v Liverpool - @ 1.33 won

£100 stakes = £33.00

Running p/l = £23.00 (excluding commission)
By:
Welshie5121
When: 21 Mar 15 19:52
21/3/15 - Over 0.5 @ HT

Aston Villa v Swansea - @ 1.36
West Ham v Sunderland - @ 1.32
By:
Welshie5121
When: 21 Mar 15 20:19
21/3/15 - Over 0.5 @ HT

Aston Villa v Swansea - @ 1.36 won
West Ham v Sunderland - @ 1.32 won

£100 stakes = £68.00

Running p/l = £91.00 (excluding commission)
By:
The Special One™
When: 05 Apr 15 16:09
Burnley 0 tottingham hotSpuds 0

This will have wiped out the £91 profit and running P/L would now be -£9 (prob more with the commission taken off)

As i said this is just layign the 0-0 at a lower liability becuase you are only laying for 45 mins rather than 90

Since laying 0-0's doesnt work in the long term then i cant see this working either

By:
Welshie5121
When: 11 Apr 15 22:18
5/4/15 - Over 0.5 @ HT

Burnley v Tottenham @ 1.36
By:
Welshie5121
When: 11 Apr 15 22:20
5/4/15 - Over 0.5 @ HT

Burnley v Tottenham @ 1.36 lost

£100 stakes = -£100.00

Running p/l = -£9.00 (excluding commission)
By:
Welshie5121
When: 11 Apr 15 22:22
11/4/15 - Over 0.5 @ HT

Southampton v Hull @ 1.38
Sunderland v Crystal Palace @ 1.34
By:
Welshie5121
When: 11 Apr 15 22:24
11/4/15 - Over 0.5 @ HT

Southampton v Hull @ 1.38 won
Sunderland v Crystal Palace @ 1.34 won

£100 stakes = £72.00

Running p/l = £63.00 (excluding commission)
By:
Welshie5121
When: 25 Apr 15 03:33
12/4/15 - Over 0.5 @ HT

QPR v Chelsea @ 1.3
By:
Welshie5121
When: 25 Apr 15 03:35
12/4/15 - Over 0.5 @ HT

QPR v Chelsea @ 1.3 won

£100 stakes = £30.00

Running p/l = £93.00 (excluding commission)
By:
Welshie5121
When: 25 Apr 15 16:20
25/4/15 - Over 0.5 @ HT

QPR v West Ham @ 1.34
West Brom v Liverpool @ 1.4
Burnley v Leicester @ 1.39
Crystal Palace v Hull @ 1.36
By:
kenilworth
When: 25 Apr 15 16:34
Laying 0-0 in the first half is easy enough
to check, do that and save yourself some time.
By:
Welshie5121
When: 25 Apr 15 16:52
25/4/15 - Over 0.5 @ HT

QPR v West Ham @ 1.34 lost
West Brom v Liverpool @ 1.4 lost
Burnley v Leicester @ 1.39 won
Crystal Palace v Hull @ 1.36 won

£100 stakes = -£125.00

Running p/l = -£32.00 (excluding commission)
By:
Welshie5121
When: 09 May 15 15:15
26/4/15 - Over 0.5 @ HT

Arsenal v Chelsea @ 1.31
By:
Welshie5121
When: 09 May 15 15:16
26/4/15 - Over 0.5 @ HT

Arsenal v Chelsea @ 1.31 lost

£100 stakes = -£100

running p/l = -£132.00 (excluding commission)
By:
Welshie5121
When: 09 May 15 15:18
2/5/15 - Over 0.5 @ HT

Swansea v Stoke @ 1.32
By:
Welshie5121
When: 09 May 15 15:19
2/5/15 - Over 0.5 @ HT

Man United v West Brom @ 1.35
By:
Welshie5121
When: 09 May 15 15:21
2/5/15 - Over 0.5 @ HT

Swansea v Stoke @ 1.32 won
Man United v West Brom @ 1.35 won

£100 stakes = £67.00

running p/l = -£65.00 (excluding commission)
By:
The Special One™
When: 09 May 15 15:38
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By:
Welshie5121
When: 09 May 15 15:56
9/5/15 - Over 0.5 @ HT

Everton v Sunderland @ 1.35
Hull v Burnley @ 1.35
By:
Welshie5121
When: 09 May 15 18:55
9/5/15 - Over 0.5 @ HT

Everton v Sunderland @ 1.35 won
Hull v Burnley @ 1.35 won

£100 stakes = £70 return

Running p/l = £5.00 (excluding commission)
By:
Welshie5121
When: 15 May 15 01:18
11/5/15 - Over 0.5 @ HT

Arsenal v Hull @ 1.31
By:
Welshie5121
When: 15 May 15 01:19
11/5/15 - Over 0.5 @ HT

Arsenal v Hull @ 1.31 won

£100 stakes = £31.00 return

Running p/l = £36.00 (excluding commission)
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