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By:
crackerpants
When: 07 Mar 15 17:58
welshie hope you did my system made big profit today
By:
crackerpants
When: 07 Mar 15 18:09
dont really matter about percentage mate , just lay the draw in the ht mkt for small stke say a 5er for a liabilty of say 8 . then bet the draw.ht say at 6to4 ish.if the ht is 0.0 you lose abit cos you win as you bet the draw. if its 1.0 either way you get your money bk , but if its 1.1 or two two you got double bouble, cos you bet the draw and layed the 0.0 , i only play in the championship .it makes good profit today
By:
ccjefc
When: 07 Mar 15 18:33
Crackerpants, I am very interested in this and was hoping you were going to explain the system before the games kicked-off today. 

I still don't understand though. Can you please explain in a different way?
By:
Welshie5121
When: 07 Mar 15 20:42

Mar 6, 2015 -- 3:54AM, timbuctooth wrote:


Am I missing something, or are you actually doing a bit better than that?Welshie5121 22 Feb 15 17:09  22/2/15 - Over 0.5 @ HTEverton vs Leicester - @ 1.4 won£100 stake = £40 returnRunning p/l = -£94.00 (excluding commission)with your next post sayingWelshie5121 01 Mar 15 00:11  28/2/15 - Over 0.5 @ HTBurnley vs Swansea - @ 1.3 wonManchester United vs Sunderland - @ 1.25 wonStoke vs Hull - @ 1.36 won£100 stakes = £91.00Running p/l = -£43.00 (excluding commission)Which would leave you £90 up, overall?


Cheers mate, just checked. For some reason I haven't added the Everton returns to the running total.

By:
Welshie5121
When: 07 Mar 15 20:44
**Revised running total**

11/2/15 - 3 bets/2 winners - (£34.00)
21/2/15 - 1 bet/0 winners - (£134.00)
22/2/15 - 1 bet/1 winner - (£94.00)
28/2/15 - 3 bets/3 winners - (£3.00)
3/3/15 - 1 bet/1 winner - £37.00
4/3/15 - 2 bets/2 winners - £90.00

Bets placed 11 - Staked £1,100.
Winners/Losers - 9/2.

Running p/l = 90.00 (excluding commission)
By:
Just Checking
When: 07 Mar 15 20:47
Why was TSO was saying this was laying 0-0 HT it's nothing like laying 0-0 HT CrazyCrazyCrazy

When I first started getting into this I did find it interesting that 0-0 FT and 0-0 HT were so different, i.e. I initially expected 0-0 HT to be 1/2 of 0-0 FT, but it made sense after a while.
By:
Just Checking
When: 07 Mar 15 20:48
nothing like BACKING 0-0 HT. I know what I meant, sorry, hard today, early night I think :)
By:
crackerpants
When: 07 Mar 15 21:51
OK CCJEFC. try it with the championship cos thats the best league where it works. click on a game what you think might be tight. you can just play one if you like until youve done it a bit. then one more two or three or as many as you like when youve built a profit up. il take you through it .click on the game you think will be tight.but goal scoring sides. go in the ht mkt and lay the 0.0.then go in the ht mkt and bet the draw in the same game.if the game is 0.0 at ht you only lose about two fifths of your stake. cos you bet the draw.if one team is winning at ht say 1.0 or 0.1 etc, you get all your money back less a bit of commision. cos you laid the 0.0.but the jackpot your realy playing for is a score draw at ht cos that way you got the lay o.o and you also got the draw.you only need one scoring draw for every 3 o.o s to profit if you play more than 1 game,try it for small stakes and see how you go i made good profit today
By:
Lifter
When: 07 Mar 15 22:12
surely just back 1-1 ht then/
By:
Lifter
When: 07 Mar 15 22:12
?
By:
Blockfire
When: 07 Mar 15 22:20
No Lifter because 2-2 or even 3-3 would make you win as well.
By:
Blockfire
When: 07 Mar 15 22:21
This sounds quite decent I might have to give this a go.
By:
Lifter
When: 07 Mar 15 22:26
ill give it a miss, but GL.
By:
The Special One™
When: 07 Mar 15 23:07

Mar 7, 2015 -- 8:47PM, Just Checking wrote:


Why was TSO was saying this was laying 0-0 HT it's nothing like laying 0-0 HT When I first started getting into this I did find it interesting that 0-0 FT and 0-0 HT were so different, i.e. I initially expected 0-0 HT to be 1/2 of 0-0 FT, but it made sense after a while.


I never said anything on this thread about laying the HT 0-0

What I said was the creator of this thread is essentially laying the 0-0 in the correct score market but with a lower liability

If a 0-0 is going to happen then just because you lay 0-0 at HT in the CS market doesn't mean that the 0-0 wont now happen

Since there has been so many 0-0 challenges that failed this one will go the same way because its not doing anything different, yes sure you will get in profit giving you a false sense of security and then bang, just 1 or 2 0-0's and all your profits gone in a flash

By:
Just Checking
When: 07 Mar 15 23:12
"I never said anything on this thread about laying the HT 0-0"

The Special One™ Joined: 16 Apr 10
"isn't this same as laying the 0-0 HT score"

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By:
The Special One™
When: 07 Mar 15 23:13
Yes  that should have said "CS"
By:
Blockfire
When: 07 Mar 15 23:14
This isn't a challenge TSO.
By:
The Special One™
When: 07 Mar 15 23:14
The opening poster is essentially laying 0-0 in the "CS" market but with a lower liability by waiting till HT
By:
The Special One™
When: 07 Mar 15 23:14
I know its not a challenge, im just pointing out that the none of the "laying 0-0" threads succeeded
By:
The Special One™
When: 07 Mar 15 23:15
Even that mufc who posts the jinx "get on the 0-0 score" threads has gone quiet as theres been a few 0-0's recently and he must have been hit by a few
By:
The Special One™
When: 07 Mar 15 23:18
I would love the laying 0-0 to work, as its such a nice stress free bet, just lay it and forget it, no trading, no sitting at laptop etc..... but it simply doesn't, unless anyone shows me differently,
By:
Just Checking
When: 07 Mar 15 23:21
TSO, there may, arguably, be value in laying 0-0 @ HT vs laying 0-0 to FT in some games.

I don't know myself. There are some things about this I think in pullein's book, but ...

I think there might be value, but not across the board. The HT/FT isn't a new idea to be analysed, I'm sure many have already looked at this as it's all recorded with a zillion stats there to crunch.

I dabble in HT but it depends on the game. I have theories, but not saying :)
By:
Blockfire
When: 07 Mar 15 23:21
TSO, I think the original poster is saying he has noticed that if a prem game is 0-0 at half time chances are if you back over 0.5 second half there is a good chance of a goal. Sure you will hit 0-0's along the way at full time but chances are it will not be many games. I guess trying this over a season could turn out to be profitable.
By:
Blockfire
When: 07 Mar 15 23:22
And the Prem has a low 0-0 rate over a season.
By:
The Special One™
When: 07 Mar 15 23:24
Yes there are less 0-0's in the premier league but they do occur, and the OP is not making any attempts to dodge them

So really the profit will be down to number of 0-0's that occur, detailed stats would tell you if your going to be profitable or not before even placing a bet, look back say last 20 years premier league results and see hoe many were 0-0 and HT and not 0-0 at FT, crunch those stats and bet accordingly if the stats are in your favour
By:
Blockfire
When: 07 Mar 15 23:25
I disagree with looking at stats from previous years. Every game is different Cool
By:
The Special One™
When: 07 Mar 15 23:27

Mar 7, 2015 -- 11:25PM, Blockfire wrote:


I disagree with looking at stats from previous years. Every game is different


Wasn't talking about stats or a individual game

Im talking about stats on the number of 0-0's occurred in the premier league over the last 20 years

By:
The Special One™
When: 07 Mar 15 23:27
*on
By:
Blockfire
When: 07 Mar 15 23:28
Why 20 years isn't that abit much?
By:
The Special One™
When: 07 Mar 15 23:30
Wouldnt that give a more accurate % stat that say the last 10 years?
By:
The Special One™
When: 07 Mar 15 23:31
If your betting on % stats then its better to have a bigger sample as possible to see if its going to be worthwhile
By:
Blockfire
When: 07 Mar 15 23:33
Maybe but the league has changed so much since the older days.
By:
The Special One™
When: 07 Mar 15 23:35
true, so I would look at stats from year 2000 onwards
By:
Lifter
When: 07 Mar 15 23:37
what would you do with said stat TSO?
By:
The Special One™
When: 07 Mar 15 23:40

Mar 7, 2015 -- 11:37PM, Lifter wrote:


what would you do with said stat TSO?


have you not read post above?

With the said stat you can see if laying 0-0 in the premier league is going to be profitable or not as the stats would tell you the % of 0-0's that occurred each season since 2000, so take the average from each season and you have a indicator of roughly what % of scores will be 0-0 in a season, if this % is in your favour then you can bet accordingly knowing that you will make a profit even with hitting some 0-0's

By:
Lifter
When: 07 Mar 15 23:42
ah okay, knock yourself out mate.
By:
Lifter
When: 07 Mar 15 23:45
BTW you say backing a goal at HT is the same as backing a goal at the start, but less liability, yes? Well that's the nature of inplay, its the same with over 2.5 aswell. If you notice a lot of goals are in second half then why get on at the start, I regularly get on over 1.5 goals at HT in Brazil/Arg @ around 3s.. whereas if I got on at start it would be around 1.4 and no where near as profitable.
By:
Just Checking
When: 07 Mar 15 23:46
But of course the people driving the markets will have the exact same stats in front of them, and this is as an easily categorised statistical "event" (as you've just said, kind of) so ... unless you can bring some edge to it?
By:
The Special One™
When: 07 Mar 15 23:47

Mar 7, 2015 -- 11:45PM, Lifter wrote:


BTW you say backing a goal at HT is the same as backing a goal at the start, but less liability, yes? Well that's the nature of inplay, its the same with over 2.5 aswell. If you notice a lot of goals are in second half then why get on at the start, I regularly get on over 1.5 goals at HT in Brazil/Arg @ around 3s.. whereas if I got on at start it would be around 1.4 and no where near as profitable.


Yes but what im saying is if a 0-0 is going to happen, then just because you layed 0-0 at HT wont now stop that 0-0 from happening

So essentially your just laying 0-0 with a lower liability which is essentially the same as laying 0-0 before KO, and you wont profit in the long term

By:
Lifter
When: 07 Mar 15 23:47
you're forgetting a huge diff in odds
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