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Ridiculous Statement from Ministry of Justice on Ched Evans
Ridiculous Statement from Ministry of Justice on Ched Evans
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lurka
she didn't walk to the hotel. She got a taxi with a bloke she wanted to shag at the time I assume (that word again) that the taxi drew up outside the hotel and she then walked into the hotel. So despite your red herring she wasn't comatose and didn't have to be carried in. So your '200 times' example is irrelevant. I rest my case. |
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she did walk into the hotel. all of that is part of the evidence (video) and you know that already. what has my 200 times got to do with that? it is only a point, it can happen when you are drunk? my point was that drink hits different people differently?
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aka i ask you to answer my 2questions:-
1. Do you think the jury made the right decision in accordance with current UK rape law? and 2. Do you have an issue with current UK rape law as set out in R v Evans and McDonald? |
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and i'll ask you why on both questions if you answer. IF
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Lurka I aint in court. I've made it clear that I don't think the correct decision was made.
It all, tmm, hinges on her condition. Given that she walked into the hotel but later claimed no knowledge of events stinks. That is my position, that is what I feel and I also feel I've debated enough with you . So good night. |
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OK Aka. thanks for setting out your position. I'd prefer if you answered my questions though and didn't dodge
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I have answered, you're just not looking at my replies.
1 see previous post and 2 I accepts what the law is. |
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so you accept that a guy who doesn't have reasonable grounds for belief that the girl consents is guilty of rape when he has sex with a woman?
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that woman
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so you accept that a guy who doesn't have reasonable grounds for belief that the girl consents is guilty of rape when he has sex with her/that woman?
i agree with the sentient that this is zero in comparison with what has been going on at the highest levels or your 'classed' society |
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sentiment
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ruled by a shower of paédos. What are you going to do about it...................
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nothing it seems, what does that say about you as people.............. not a lot. As p daniels would say
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No chance Ched is 4/9 to get off on appeal homefortea.
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A Ministry of Justice spokesperson said strict conditions imposed on sex offenders "effectively rules out working abroad".
The spokesperson added: "We are determined to have one of the toughest regimes in the world for managing sex offenders, to stop them reoffending and to protect victims." Flagrant disregard of human rights if you ask me...and we punishing people for life which is wrong Although if other countries do not wish to let them in, I believe that is their right also. |
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One would have thought it is sensible for sex offenders to go abroad if we fear them re offending
saves us the problem of dealing with them |
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In France it is legal to have sex with a 15 year old girl, here it is illegal.
So by this rule nobody convicted of this here would not be able to go to France where it is acceptable Makes no sense to me  |
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FFS. This is in no way a flagrant disregard of his human rights, or is he in any way a victim.
He has only served half his sentence. And is thus subject to licencing conditions and supervision; how is that supposed to happen if he's out of the country? As for playing football again, this is a matter of opinions. Mine is that such a media-exposed, high paying job is a privilege not a right so there is no reason why he should just waltz right back into it, there are plenty of other jobs in the world that don't involve being paraded around in the public eye. |
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myself cant see how you can walk into a hotel and have sex with a bloke who,s cleared of rape because the jury felt she,d give him the wink earlier on when presumably not as drunk, then within a short period of time she,s comatose
would this mean that someone alegedly giving you the wink when of sound mind, couldnt claim rape if you took advantage of her when comatose |
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THIS IS THE SCARY BIT
Islamic law rejects forensic evidence (such as DNA) in favor of testimony. An interesting situation thus sometimes develops in cases where a victim alleges rape and the man denies that sex even took place. In the absence of four male witnesses, rape cannot be proven. The woman's testimony then becomes a "confession" of adultery. She can be stoned, even though the male is unpunished, since he never "confessed" to a sexual act. |
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Thank f uck Ched hasn't converted to islam then....
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Any appeal should question most of the jurors about their prejudices, particularly the women chosen. So many hate vigilantes appear to be acting out of pure hatred of all men with the predetermined assumption of his guilt. Just one of these rabid ladies would demand conviction on sight alone.
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He hasn't been given the right to appeal, In fact he's had it refused twice. So it's a bit early to be planning tactics, particularly illegal ones.
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Hard to fathom some of the comments on this issue.Yet Betfairians are supposedly of "sharp mind".
To want to crucify the guy's career is another issue,and yes,it stinks of bias and spite. Some say he raped ,so deserves all he gets,others say it wasn't conclusive,regardless of what the jury decided.Either way it certainly wasn't brutal,forced,aggressive etc.,and if I were a juror I would have argued against conviction,due to the evidence being somewhat vague. Yet the dogooders and handwringers are still baying for blood,and want to more or less finish him as a footballer in UK. I am not trivialising rape,but this isn't a clear cut case of rape,and usually when a rape is concerned force is involved,and maybe body marks from force. |
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He hasn't been given the right to appeal, In fact he's had it refused twice. So it's a bit early to be planning tactics, particularly illegal ones. Not sure that you are right there love either  |
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"I am not trivialising rape,but this isn't a clear cut case of rape..."
I'm not being racist but... I'm sorry. Are you suggesting you do have a sharp mind? Allow me to disabuse you of that notion. |
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You're some keyboard warrior aren't you hft?
Which bit do you doubt? |
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Pandorica,sorry to disappoint you,but I have studied law,and worked alongside a great barrister.
YOU brought up racism,to try to get your silly point over.Very poor example,and certainly not valid.And yes,this wasn't a clear cut case,maybe in your mind,but too many uncertainties to be clear cut. |
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I didn't bring up racism. You seem strangely unfamiliar with satire.
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You studied law with a great barrister but you failed to grasp the whole concept of "beyond reasonable doubt".
Like fck you studied law.  |
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What a thicko you must be.Started with accountancy(3 years),then switched to law.Hard for you to accept,but then who cares.Also swearing does nothing to emphasise your point,merely shows a lack of ability to express yourself in a strong manner.
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Sorry - but you're a lying tw@t. Always better to be upfront about such matters imo.
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pandorica you are beyond help...
Put a bit of lipstick on take out the vibrator close the curtains and make sure all mirrors are turned the other way... |
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You've used that on he other thread. It wasn't that impressive that it deserved two outings.
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And at least it would be consensual !
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Never mentioned the lipstick though Gal....
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What this case has uncovered is a clear breach of Human Rights I think
If you force sex offenders to sign a register for life and do not allow them to leave this country for life This is a clear infringement of their Human Rights Now sex offenders are not very nice people, so we don't bother too much, I see that But we now have in my opinion an innocent man trapped in this system Also some sex offenders have committed very minor offences, perhaps looking at a few inappropriate images on a computer, hardly makes them a danger to society People must always be allowed to leave this country, this country is not a prison. It is sufficient to pass on any details of their crimes to other countries they intend going to, to warn them and that country then make the decision whether they allow them entry or not PS I am not on the sex offenders register or ever likely to be. Any claim against me, not that there would be, would be false and a miracle on a par with the raising of Lazarus I should think. I am definitely safe. I just like to see Justice and my sympathy is all with us men nowadays, women rule us in this country  |
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all sounds like a bit of a balls up to me ....
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Speak for yourself ebulgery...
These rampant lesbian posters will not get me down.... They might do if I was pissed though and then I might just go out and look for more... |
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Presumably "inappropriate images" = kiddy porn Ebul?
You really are a wrong un. |