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A Ministry of Justice spokesperson said strict conditions imposed on sex offenders "effectively rules out working abroad".
The spokesperson added: "We are determined to have one of the toughest regimes in the world for managing sex offenders, to stop them reoffending and to protect victims."
Is there a country in the world with a greater concentration of drunken slappers than the UK? Surely they should be actively encouraging Evans to move abroad if they are really interested in minimising the risk of him reoffending?
The spokesperson added: "We are determined to have one of the toughest regimes in the world for managing sex offenders, to stop them reoffending and to protect victims."
Is there a country in the world with a greater concentration of drunken slappers than the UK? Surely they should be actively encouraging Evans to move abroad if they are really interested in minimising the risk of him reoffending?
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ask the MOJ how many rapists are in jail in the uk
then ask how many are UK how many are EU then how many non EU THEN ASK THIS ONE HOW MANY NON EU HAVE BEEN DEPORTED |
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UK has the finest recent record of imprisoning sex offending pensioners, you cynical lot.
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never got saville as he was paying of the other lot ykwim
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That rules Andrew Windsor out of the tour to Papua new guinea then
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Surely if he was playing football their would be less chance of him re-offending ?
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he could still offend on the pitch....john hopoate managed to
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Duke - I'm asking you those questions please - obviously you have the answers so please post away? Many thanks.
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so he can't work any job abroad because he can't travel abroad. Can't work as a footballer in the UK because of public outcry (for the moment).
I don't have a problem with him not being allowed to play while on licence but I have a problem with the way it is not a written condition of his licence (like no travel abroad seems to be) and is administered by a mob who seem to think he should never be allowed to play again. They don't have a problem with him playing because he is still technically serving his sentence, they have a problem with him playing again full stop. I don't agree with that. |
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Except it's not because he's a footballer but because he's a convicted rapist - the situation would be the same (working abroad) whatever he does for a living. He should maybe have considered all this (after all he's had some degree of publicity coaching etc) in his pursuit of poosy!
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He's done his time and whilst society shouldn't forgive him does the offence mean he shouldn't be able to earn a living iyho ?
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The aim of puntive sentencing should be to protect society and deter re-offence, while rehabilitating offenders. The aim of those who want to prevent Evans from working again appears to be purely vindictive and will be counter-productive for all concerned.
It is depressing that NACRO (the charity whose aim is to rehabilitate offenders) has kept a low profile throughout this episode, rather than risk unpopularity by pointing out why he should be allowed to work. On a related point, there is clearly an issue with the culture of football and its attitudes to women. They are seen as either sl@gs or wags. If the PFA and the FA focused on this issue as they have on racism, more of these young men, used to adulation and with much more money than sense, would stay out of trouble. |
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What tripe. You can't justify an individual's behaviour by saying that it is because of the "culture of football" There are plenty of footballers who are brought up properly who manage not to go around raping people, despite the fame, money and adulation.
Of course Evans has the right to pursue his chosen career. If I was chairman of a football club there is no way I would employ him though, and I am glad that the League 1 club that is taking him is not my League 1 club. |
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I have no objection to him working as a shelf-stacker at a supermarket. Would that require an IQ test though ?
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Where do people get the idea that he has a right to return to work as a footballer? Perhaps the reluctance of clubs to employ him might make him and others realise that they are representing the club and the people of the town or city, and the vast majority of clubs don't want to be represented by a rapist.
There are plenty of other jobs with a lower profile, but even here he may find difficulty; "rapist" tends not to look too impressive on a CV. I have no wish to see him struggle any more than any other offender, but him and his supporters need to realise the revulsion with which sex offenders are viewed, and that being a highly paid footballer comes with responsibilities. |
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I agree that "rapist" tends not to look too impressive on a CV. Nor do burglar, fraudster, murderer, drunken driver, paedophile, mugger, rioter, perpetrator of violence, nor any of the other offences which people get banged up for. The issue is whether we add to people's sentences the penalty of preventing them from following an occupation in which they excel and which doesn't put potential future victims at risk. It also avoids the potential costs which arise when it is subsequently found that the original court got it wrong, which happens far too often.
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http://www.itv.com/news/wales/2015-01-04/
evans-set-to-sign-for-league-one-club- according-to-professional-footballers- association-chief/ He will play again soon imo and for as long as the law doesn't say otherwise (which it doesn't), he should be allowed to. If people have a problem, lobby to change the law |
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I wonder which club it is. Any educated guesses?
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Some on this thread have so much sympathy for rapists, it is unclear as to whether they also believe that p dohs are to be equally pitied.
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It's Oldham. They took on lee Hughes when he got out of the big house, so they have a bit of previous with taking on old lags.
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obviously proven is the key word,but it seems the law he,s proven guilty under seems to have helped to be set by a building full of paedo,s,
in time evans may well be regarded as an unlucky fool compared to the evil squalor who,ve helped make the laws we live under,  |
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It's Barnsley, I believe.
Danny Wilson was his manager at Bramall Lane at the time of the conviction. |
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Are you suggesting a football club should be FORCED to employ him ?
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somebody asked a ridiculous question - where do people get the the idea that he has the right to return as a footballer?
the question should be where do people get the the idea that he doesn't have the right to return as a footballer? The law is clear. I have no issue with any club wanting or not wanting to employ him. They are all private entities, free to do as they wish |
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I think fan power may prevail...hit the club in the pocket and they will soon think otherwise rather than take a moral standpoint that a convicted rapist deserves a 2nd chance.
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i didn't say anyone said he doesn't have the right. I said ride em out asked the question where do people get the the idea that he has the right to return as a footballer? He clearly has the right to work as a footballer with no restrictions placed on that right, he wouldn't have negotiated with 3 clubs already otherwise.
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Having read the details surrounding this case,I came to the conclusion that this "so called rape",has to be viewed in a different light.It isn't as if the guy used force,or was brutal,or aggressive.The circumstances were a bit vague,as opposed to a cut and dried brutal rape.
Some will say rape is rape,but this was very different. Then to treat the guy as a hardened criminal is beyond belief,and he most certainly should be allowed to pursue his career,but,at the same time,be made aware that his future conduct must be exemplary. No,i don't believe in this PC tosh,but I do believe in fairness. |
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by the law of the land he was indicted and convicted. Bleedin hearts say he is vermin and its all his fault (may/may not be true) but if the victim was my daughter I'd have not a lot of sympathy for her either. Getting her self so mortally drunk she was unable to function or coherently say NO I don't want you to do this. He should have had more self respect than wanting to sh*g a drunken corpse (necrophylia perhaps) and she has to be in some way culpable for what occurred. I wasn't there but may she agreed earlier in the evening and continued to do so to be in the company of a charming respectable professional footballer (not Evans). The law is not always correct or right,FFS the Govt can't even organise Serious Case Reviews that a majority of the country let alone the victims and families have any confidence in.
All prisoners on licence can't go abroad unless extenuating circs and I'd have thought his Probation Officer and Prison Governor would agree to a move abroad to move on. He'd be high profile and most unlikely to seek out the drunken wanton daughters and sisters of the forum readers looking to earn £5k for an exclusive. Perhaps he is being used as a political example of sex crime and punishment. Society allows the crime of rape to be seen as sensational but skewed in media fairness. Until both victim and accused are given anonymity then the system is unfair. For all the cases where previous victims have surfaced ref; Police appeals, how many others have had careers and lives ruined when no charge has followed. How many Promotion driven Police zealots love the sensationalism of sex trials to make their name? All quiet on the Cliff Richard front. Who engineered that whole circus? It wasn't the BBC acting on guesswork and independent information. |
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Good reply,emphasising my point that it wasn't a "cut and dried" case.
Is the driver that does 35mph in a 30 zone,as bad an offender as the aggressive driver that does 50 mph?Not in my book! |
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will the bloke ever be allowed to earn his living? if he did any non sporting job for a living, say, construction or factory work, would there be a whole army of people trying to stop him from working?
bizarre country the UK |
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And if he had worked in any other profession would his family have been able to persecute the victim as they did?
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she has to be in some way culpable for what occurred
If you were sexually assaulted while you were drunk would you consider yourself 'culpable'? |
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I guess if you look at someone a bit funny and they proceed to shoot you that means you were culpable and the murderer fully deserving of everyone's sympathy
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I don't think he was given as long a sentence as if he had jumped out from a hedge wearing a mask and held a knife to her throat.
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if I drunk myself so incapable to raise an objection verbally or physically then yes I would consider myself culpable and I would if my daughter drank herself so incapable to function normally.
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Lol, no further questions m'lud
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Captain christy how is that relevant? She was happily in the company of his friend and seemingly agreed to go with him to a hotel,in her condition I'm afraid that is placing herself at risk and having no regard for her own safety.
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