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By:
pushkin99
When: 09 Sep 14 04:16
as the racist and swearing posts of 'high_lander/metaphor' have been removed Cool and this abusive forumite has not posted for some while now Laugh it would seem that rumours of a suspension may be real now Cool

or maybe 'high_lander/metaphor' has at long last learned his lesson and will not be making any further racist and swearing posts Devil else next time YOU will be banned from this site Cool
By:
OnePercenter
When: 09 Sep 14 06:37
Great news that the YES campaign is winning.

can't believe Labour think anyone would listen to Gordon Brown's ramblings. Did someone say they were going to send Ed Balls up there. Doesn't get funnier than that.
By:
Platini
When: 09 Sep 14 08:16
gordon brown has no credibility up here. massive own goal by the No campaign.
By:
Alias
When: 09 Sep 14 08:31
Gordon Brown attempting to sell a worn out deal on behalf of the Tories, a deal that would never have seen the light of day had it not been for the latest poll results. It's actually sad when you think about it, especially since it would likely have to go before the commons, where there are only 59 Scottish MPs from 620. Long odds on for a knock back.
By:
OnePercenter
When: 09 Sep 14 08:38
Gordon Brown is not trying to sell a worn out deal on behalf of the Tories. The Tories will be quids in if Scotland votes YES. Every Tory I knows is pleasantly surprised about the YES campaign leading. We just hope the undecideds don't bottle it and vote NO!

Brown turning up is the desperate response of Ed Miliband's Labour party. They are going to be a lot of safe seats down at all future elections if Scotland choose independence.
By:
Alias
When: 09 Sep 14 08:47
OnePercenter, your second sentence is correct. Your first is as far from the truth as possible. Of course the Tories would gain electorally, but they are desperate not to lose oil revenues etc. The 1% drop in the £ V $ yesterday indicates that, although recently the £ has been up and down like a ****'s knickers anyway.
By:
Alias
When: 09 Sep 14 08:48
HUER LaughLaughLaugh

Old English noun banned by BetfairLaughLaughLaugh
By:
OnePercenter
When: 09 Sep 14 09:00
Of course England would lose oil revenue but that would be more than made up for by not having a Labour government come in every few years and jack up welfare.

A drop in the value of the £ is good for England's exports. The Treasury have been trying to devalue it for the past 6 years but the Euro crisis has meant it has stayed stubbornly high.

Don't you worry about us English. We will be fine.
By:
sickoflayinwinners
When: 09 Sep 14 10:09
im sure the rest of the uk will manage to struggle by without the scots.theres plenty of savings that will be made when Scotland have to support itself in many other ways.personally I hope they get the yes vote but I somehow doubt  when it comes to I the scots will really want to go it alone.
By:
Platini
When: 09 Sep 14 11:09
The market has misjudged this event badly, a look at the graph/history tells you that.
And today, they're getting it wrong again - they're now shortening up the No price. Have they learned nothing? The latest tactic from the Unionists tells you that they are still losing ground and are now behind in the polls. Unleashing Gordon Brown will not halt the momentum - Scots will see it as desperate and patronising. The current prices are all wrong, they should be much closer, and they will be before next Thursday.
By:
Westender
When: 09 Sep 14 11:33
The silent majority will vote no on the day simply because the yes men have no answers to the main questions on the economy, currency, impact on pensions, NHS, employment, interest rates etc.

If they cannot answer these questions more than 2 years after Cameron agreed to a referendum then there is no hope.

Read that the 4th largest city Dundee has 25% of adults out of work.

I will be very surprised if the overall vote is a yes.
By:
OnePercenter
When: 09 Sep 14 11:41
Salmond is an old school Socialist so naturally he is promising more generous benefits. This always works with the unemployed and the work shy.

Before anyone asks how he is going to pay for this remember all the oil money he is going to get his hands on but forget the Sovereign Wealth Fund he has been banging on about.
By:
Outpost
When: 09 Sep 14 11:41
the yes voters are obviously the most vociferous and agressive so it's clear that a lot of no voters are keeping their heads down and saying nothing at the moment out of fear.

come voting day the no voters will be more determined than ever to make sure that their country is not placed in the hands of these yes  folk who aren't really all that bothered about scotland but only want to have the power to impose their hate filled views and beliefs on the rest of the country.
By:
high_lander
When: 09 Sep 14 12:13
The Scottish Labour party has a problem if Scotland votes for Independence. How can they form a government of an Independent Scotland when they campaigned so strongly against it? Surely that would be too hypocritical, even for politicians.
By:
geordie1956
When: 09 Sep 14 12:22
Nothing is beyond MPs of whatever political persuasion - hypocrisy is their god - in the event of a NO vote do we then see all the Scottish Nationalist members resign and have a career change as surely they could not continue with any true conviction within a unified union
By:
freddiek
When: 09 Sep 14 12:24
a NO vote of 51% would hardly be a great victory would it?

if the NOs manage to carry this by the skin of their teeth i'd imagine there will be another referendum in a couple of decades.

independence for Scotland is inevitable.
By:
high_lander
When: 09 Sep 14 12:31
It's not the same thing geordie, The SNP will remain and continue fighting for Independence. In fact it should be the other way around. Maybe the SNP should disband if Scotland achieve Independence.

It would be very hypocritical of the Labour Party to lead an independent nation that they didn't want to become a independent in the 1st place. How can they justify it?
By:
high_lander
When: 09 Sep 14 12:36
geordie1956

I agree with you about politicians "hypocrisy is their god" but it's not hypocritical for the SNP to continue fighting for independence.
By:
pushkin99
When: 09 Sep 14 12:38
lost your chum metaphor today have you high_lander DevilCool

when do you think metaphor will be back again to continue making his highly offensive abusive racist posts LaughLaughLaugh
By:
OnePercenter
When: 09 Sep 14 12:47
It doesn't matter who runs an independent Scotland.

In 2016, without a currency to call their own, without EU membership, with half up and running regularitary bodies, the place will be chaos.

Even Thatcher couldn't sort that kind of mess out.
By:
high_lander
When: 09 Sep 14 12:48
Thatcher Cry
By:
high_lander
When: 09 Sep 14 12:56
Last year Scotland provided £800 more in tax per person that the UK average. This means Scotland would have been £8.3 billion better off as an independent country over the past 5 years. We could have spent that money investing in our economy with the same debt levels as the rest of the UK or saved it and had £8.3 billion less debt
By:
high_lander
When: 09 Sep 14 12:57
The oil in the North Sea is worth over £1 trillion. There are at least 15-24 billion barrels of oil remaining which will continue long into the 21st century. Over 90% of the tax revenue will go to an independent Scotland which can help to establish a national oil fund for future investment. Recently, Business for Scotland explained the potential for a West coast oil boom that is currently blocked by Westminster.
By:
Alias
When: 09 Sep 14 12:59
Don't you worry about us English. We will be fine

ROFL! Did I say I was?

BTW, shouldn't you be saying rUK and NOT England?
By:
Alias
When: 09 Sep 14 13:03
Outpost
Outpost 09 Sep 14 11:41 Joined: 10 Apr 09 | Topic/replies: 5,893 | Blogger: Outpost's blog
the yes voters are obviously the most vociferous and agressive so it's clear that a lot of no voters are keeping their heads down and saying nothing at the moment out of fear.

Where do you live Outpost? What evidence do you have?
By:
OnePercenter
When: 09 Sep 14 13:05
You may have £1 trillion worth of oil around the Shetlands but how much will it cost to get out? And don't forget you only get the tax on the oil not the full value of the oil.

Salmond has said it will only cost £200m to set up all the governance bodies for the new nation. Less than a third of what the Edinburgh tram system cost. Less than half what Holyrood cost.

So it seems either Salmond is a little challenged when it comes to hard sums or he is telling porkies.

On top of those figures he has promised to boost NHS spending and increase welfare.

Christ, we will all be moving up there! Laugh
By:
Alias
When: 09 Sep 14 13:05
OnePercenter 09 Sep 14 12:47 Joined: 10 Jun 14 | Topic/replies: 472 | Blogger: OnePercenter's blog
It doesn't matter who runs an independent Scotland.

In 2016, without a currency to call their own, without EU membership, with half up and running regularitary bodies, the place will be chaos.

Even Thatcher couldn't sort that kind of mess out.


LaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh

It's THATCHER that's make lots of folk vote YES, even now.
By:
OnePercenter
When: 09 Sep 14 13:07
If Maggie gets the credit for English independence then her legend will be doubled!
By:
high_lander
When: 09 Sep 14 13:14
OnePercenter Christ, we will all be moving up there!



Oh God I hope not. I shudder at the thought of you living in Scotland Scared
By:
high_lander
When: 09 Sep 14 13:17
Scotland will be the wealthiest nation in the world after independence. It's worth £5 million to each and every one of us.

Who wants to be a millionaire? WE DO! Cool
By:
OnePercenter
When: 09 Sep 14 13:18
Don't worry. Not enough sun or dry days for me to live in Scotland. Although I do like island hopping among the western isles.
By:
Bergkamp93
When: 09 Sep 14 13:26


LEGEND Laugh

FRANKIElad
By:
OnePercenter
When: 09 Sep 14 13:28
Okay, if you are going to threaten physical violence in a forum you're not the type of poster I want to be dealing with.
By:
high_lander
When: 09 Sep 14 13:28
LaughLaughLaugh
By:
Bergkamp93
When: 09 Sep 14 13:28
Grin
By:
high_lander
When: 09 Sep 14 13:31
Scotland will be the wealthiest nation in the world after independence. It's worth £5 million to each and every one of us.

Who wants to be a millionaire? WE DO! Cool
By:
Bergkamp93
When: 09 Sep 14 13:36
By:
high_lander
When: 09 Sep 14 13:37
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/why-an-independent-scotland-could-become-the-richest-country-on-earth-9096120.html

Read up on why an independent Scotland will be among the world richest nations.
By:
Platini
When: 09 Sep 14 13:41
The screens continue to light up blue for the Yes vote - odds continue to shorten.


meanwhile the betfair market is in denial Laugh
By:
PBK
When: 09 Sep 14 13:43
Stay or go but if you do decide to go DON'T take our pound, pensions, defence etc etc Fu ck off completely I shall enjoy watching you fall apart. And that's a nailed on cert !
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