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Off the toe
23 Aug 14 23:32 Joined: 07 Sep 05 | Topic/replies: 1,644 | Blogger: Off the toe's blog Thanks...that'll do lads Laugh I dunno I was just worried he smacked of complete duck egg... I'm getting old...convinced these Latino mincers will be a disaster etc then forget the leagues full of them now Laugh A Malky Mackayism if I've ever seen one. |
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If you want to compare the odd result then fair enough, Utd being hammered by Ath Bilbao over 2 legs in Europa cup after suffering an early CL exit, Chelsea and ManC have also had early exits in recent years.
Would be interested to see the "proper" balance sheets of the PL clubs in comparison to those in the Bundesliga, compare admission prices while we are at it. Could also remove from each league the players from overseas and see what you are left with, remember when the PL began Spain had 58% foreign players and set about re-dressing that huge error, and noticeable that the wage structure is not far off the Bundesliga. Too many complications in this "most competitive league" nonsense, as most fans can not be @rced with P+L, would rather see clubs in the later stages of the CL even if it means the owner signing another £1b cheque to wipe a couple of years debt. |
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di maria might be the 1st good signing and others might follow and we,ll see what he,s like someone said,
we no exactly what he,s like he,ll be on his bike,the situation you describe has just happened to him at madrid and he was told he wouldnt be a starter so he legged it |
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to put it in its simplest terms,he,s just left a club where he wont get a game to a club where allegedly he,ll be utds top man, so after spending 250 mill if utd draw madrid they cant compete
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Real will have doubled their money on Di Maria..good work if you can get it
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Do they have any regard for FFP in Manchester?
and Wage bill only allowed to increase by £4m p.a. under FFP, iirc. In the nicest possible way you both need to reread the FFP rules/ regulations, and then look at Utd's income and revenue streams and profit/ loss. They could buy 3/4 more top players on high wages and not even be close to the FFP limits. "the restriction only applies to the income from TV money. If clubs boost their income through extra sponsorship deals or matchday income, they can spend that on wages too." Utd have increased there income through some truly massive sponsorship deals in the last 12 months. Even if FFP was an issue for Utd that they are not in Europe this season may actually work in their future favour. Liverpool's absence last season helped them pass the first FFP monitoring period, had they played in in Europe last season they would have failed by a similar margin as City, and would almost certainly have experienced the same consequences. |
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£190k p.w Di Maria, Rooney £300k p.w, Shaw, Herrera, RVP, Rojo all £100k + p.w
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interestin 2 c how di maria get on in the epl. is he that great or just a stand out in a sh1te la liga with only 3 teams + bilbao.
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Nearly every decent player from La Liga has been a success in the Premier League in recent years.
It's also about time Man Utd went out and just bought a world class player. I would way rather pay £60m for a world class player, than buy 2-3 average ones for £15m-30m. A trap Man Utd have fallen into in recent years. |
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wot about herrera he is from spain i think? and he is average.
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You can't seriously judge him on 1 competitive game.
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he played 2 games? yes i suppose he needs a few games more but i dont c him making a big difference.
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I cant understand everyone going on about united paying over the odds. real madrid have been doing that since jesus was a boy and it hasn't done them any harm has it? paying over the odds is always worthwhile for top class players. all that matters is they win matches for you, get you qualified for the cl and win trophies.
the really bad buys are when you waste money on substandard players. united are a giant club, they should be paying big money on top class players just like real madrid, barcelona, chelsea and man city do. it hasn't done those clubs any harm. I hope united keep buying world class players for big money. |
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bayern munich dont buy big they play as a team. much more important than individual players.
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mid-table club with a big mortgage going on a spending spree
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those figures arent near the 60 70 80m the spanish 2 like 2 pay.
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Because the Spanish big two are constantly in competition with each other, and are also often buying players who the selling club don't really want to sell, thus you have to pay big money.
Bayern activate a lot of release clauses in their deals. |
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The Bundesliga is a Bayern Munich monopoly safely protected under UEFA's FFP
In La Liga Real Madrid and Barcelona produce many players from their academies. Real sell theirs generally and use the funds to help buy "Galactios", Barcelona tend to have more ending up in the first team. The EPL produces very few top class players through the academies and hence it has to spend big to get players in. City's academy may change that in years to come. It wasn't long ago that La Liga consisted of over 50% foreign players. |
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Plus it's clear the top, top talent only really wants to play for Barcelona in Real Madrid in recent years. They have often bought players that wouldn't even go to Bayern.
Bayern have an advantage at youth level. Because they are the only giant club in Germany, thus all the talent in Germany naturally vacuums up to Bayern with very little competition for said players. Spain's talent not only is their competition between Barcelona and Real Madrid, but in recent years you've had English clubs trying to muscle in on some of their talent. And they tend to be a lot more open to moving abroad as the lower Spanish clubs are less financially stable than the lower German clubs. |
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it's a myth that bayern munich don't spend big, don't know where that nonsense comes from. they spend plenty big and always have.
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The Glaziers are to blame! Haven't kept Man United up with the Real, Barca, Bayern (or even City and Chelsea!). Slipped a long way down the pecking order and will need more than Juan Mata and Angel Di Maria to sort the mess out
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Even this window they've made mistakes. These players should have been brought in a month ago. Allegedly they are going to sign 2 more players. So they will have signed 4 players after the season started. They've already dropped 5 points, could have done with those players in the first two matches.
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Di Maria = £1 pound shop Stuart Downing.
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di maria is a good player, but I feel utd have paid about 25m too much, saying that though Liverpool bought andy carroll for 35m, which was 32m too much
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y is di maria going to a team going nowhere in man utd wouldnt he be better off at psg if he wanted to leave real madrid. man utd wont win nething for at least 3 seasons bar maybe the capital one cup.
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Panic buy the club is in turmoil after the fall of the dictator.
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they should also buy vidal,blind,depay and will definately make top 4
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might have misunderstood him but in various formations put up by neville last night to include di maria he seemed to suggest that only 1 of rooney, rvp would play,
if that was the case maria real price would be a 100 million because you,d have a 30 million plus player out of the side,bit like ozil costing 42 mill to replace arsenals so called best player at the time wiltshire |
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Another example of a player signing for money, they don't give a damn about champions league football. Players will sign for anyone if the money is right, take falcahowcanimakethemostmoney. Clueless media, more money or champions league football, let me think, well another 20k a week would be nice, but I'd miss the champions league, especially the music, despite finishing 3rd in the league. Sod the extra money, you can't put a price on hearing that champions league music.
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Utd now have the best player in the country
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To work out why it's going wrong for United, you have to go back to the time when it all went right. In the early 90's Fergie's team started to take shape, whilst Liverpool's decline set in after they employed Souness as manager. Add to that the fact that a group of talented youngsters were all coming the ranks at the same time at Old Trafford, & you had yourself a perfect storm. That perfect storm has now gone into reverse. Fergie has now gone, other clubs are putting together very good sides, & there is nothing outstanding coming from United's academy. Ferguson left a legacy insofar that the club is now a financial giant & can afford to throw money at the problem. However, they are now competing with mega-rich clubs who can offer just as much, if not more, than United. For nearly 2 decades Manchester United were the blueprint as to how a proper football club should be run. They now come across as a club that's lost its identity & are using money as a short-cut to getting back on top.
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Di Maria: "I am absolutely delighted to be joining. United is the only club I would have left Real Madrid for."
WALOFS. As if he'd have gone to United if Chelsea, City, Bayern, PSG etc wanted to pay that sort of money for him. Roughly translates as 'United were the only club in for me and i had no other option apart from the Madrid bench' |
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PSG agreed a fee of €65m a couple of weeks ago, he was negotiating personal terms before they pulled out because it would have taken them over the FFP threshold or whatever you'd called it.
Sharp minded Ed saw the move collapse, realized the player had less than 12 months of his contract to run and with Machiavellian cunning negotiated Real down to a mere €75m. At least he's managed to write a decent script for Di Maria that the suckers can lap up. "Yay, I don't care about defending the CL with Madrid I'm looking forward to adding the Carling Cup to my medal collection as well as the open top bus parade in May to celebrate Liverpool not winning the league. And the fact that Utd were the only club willing to pay the fee and my wage demands is completely immaterial as I've been a fan since the 80's. Neil Webb was my first footballing hero y'know." |
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he was contracted til 2018 at RM
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Scousers seething again on here
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