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joe39 When: 02 Oct 14 22:21

2nd October
UEFA Europa League. Dinamo Minsk vs Fiorentina. Minsk 4/1
Result - Minsk 0 Fiorentina 3.
LOST. Loss 1 point.

Totals
Loss 40.13 points
Staked 194 points
% loss on the season so far 20.69%
195 bets. 61 won, 133 lost, 1 in progress.
Current losing streak 10. Longest winning streak 6. Longest losing streak 12.

By:

Over2.5 When: 02 Oct 14 22:48

By:

joe39 When: 03 Oct 14 20:11

3rd October
In progress - Ludogorets 33/1 to qualify from their Champions League group.

That's to finish in the top 2 against Real Madrid (surely quaking in their boots), Basle, and Liverpool. Can sort of understand if it was New Year's Eve and McGovern was 30 points down and trying to level up on the year. But this is the 2nd 33/1 lunatic punt in a week.
Pitiful.

By:

homefortea When: 03 Oct 14 20:29

Well Liverpool will not qualify after they get tanked twice by Real and Ronaldo fills his boots against a defence that could not keep a dentist away from the managers teeth....

As for Basle they are Championship at best...

By:

joe39 When: 07 Oct 14 18:55

4th October
Barclays Premier League. Chelsea vs Arsenal. Arsenal 9/2
Result - Chelsea 2 Arsenal 0.
LOST. Loss 1 point.

Totals
Loss 41.13 points
Staked 195 points
% loss on the year so far 21.09%

196 bets. 61 won, 134 lost, 1 in progress.
Current losing streak 11. Longest winning streak 6. Longest losing streak 12.

By:

CJ70 When: 07 Oct 14 19:02

Oct 3, 2014 -- 8:11PM, joe39 wrote:

3rd OctoberIn progress - Ludogorets 33/1 to qualify from their Champions League group.That's to finish in the top 2 against Real Madrid (surely quaking in their boots), Basle, and Liverpool. Can sort of understand if it was New Year's Eve and McGovern was 30 points down and trying to level up on the year. But this is the 2nd 33/1 lunatic punt in a week. Pitiful.

For the first time in his life he's actually got value on that one. More luck than judgement you'd have to imagine as I doubt he'd even heard of them before the Liverpool game.

By:

joe39 When: 07 Oct 14 21:41

7th October
Johnstone's Paints Trophy. Bury vs Morecambe. Morecambe 19/5
Result - Bury 3 Morecambe 1.
LOST. Loss 1 point.

Totals
Loss 42.13 points
Staked 196 points
% loss on the year so far 21.49%
197 bets. 61 won, 135 lost, 1 in progress.
Current and equal worst losing streak 12

Longest winning streak 6.

By:

joe39 When: 09 Oct 14 21:44

(Start the parade...)

8th October
Johnstone's Paint Trophy. Cheltenham Town vs Bristol City. Cheltenham 100/30
Result - Cheltenham 1 Bristol City 3.
LOST. Loss 1 point.

9th October
Euro 2016 qualifiers. Belarus vs Ukraine. Ukraine 11/8
Result - Belarus 0 Ukraine 2.
WON. Profit 1.375 points.

Totals
Loss 41.755 points
Staked 198 points
% loss on the year so far 21.09%
199 bets. 62 won, 136 lost, 1 in progress.
Current winning streak 1

Longest winning streak 6. Longest losing streak 13.

By:

FatherMaguire When: 10 Oct 14 00:19

personally hoping Derek turns the tap on and runs into profit - consistently the funniest sports columnist in any major paper - great thread though, kudos for monitoring this, I've found it fascinating (and I'm not Derek)

By:

joe39 When: 10 Oct 14 21:50

10th October
Euro 2016 qualifiers. Latvia vs Finland. Latvia 29/10
Result - Latvia 0 Finland 3.
LOST. Loss 1 point.

Totals
Loss 42.755 points
Staked 199 points
% loss on the year so far 21.48%
201 bets. 62 won, 137 lost, 2 in progress.
Current losing streak 1. Longest winning streak 6. Longest losing streak 13.

By:

CJ70 When: 10 Oct 14 23:47

*Iceland

By:

curious-cat When: 11 Oct 14 03:36

very good thread joe

wd

By:

joe39 When: 12 Oct 14 18:57

11th October
Euro 2016 qualifiers. Estonia vs England. England to win to nil 5/6
Result - Estonia 0 England 1
WON. Profit 0.833 points.

Totals
Loss 41.922 points
Staked 200 points
% loss on the year so far 20.96%
202 bets. 63 won, 137 lost, 2 in progress.
Current winning streak 1. Longest winning streak 6. Longest losing streak 13.

By:

joe39 When: 18 Oct 14 00:18

14th October
Euro 2016 qualifiers. Greece vs Northern Ireland. Northern Ireland +1 goal 8/5
Result - Greece 0 Northern Ireland 2.
WON. Profit 1.6 points.

15th October
Austria Tennis Trophy. Lacko vs Rosol. Lacko 5/4
Result - Rosol won 6-2 6-4
LOST. Loss 1 point.

16th October
European Rugby Cup. Gloucester vs Brive. Gloucester -19
Result - Gloucester 55 Brive 0.
WON. Profit 0.909 point.

17th October
Sky Championship. Rotherham vs Leeds United. Leeds 5/2
Result - Rotherham 2 Leeds 1.
LOST. Loss 1 point.

Totals
Loss 41.413 points
Staked 204 points
% loss on the year so far 20.3%
206 bets. 65 won, 139 lost, 2 in progress.
Current losing streak 1. Longest winning streak 6. Longest losing streak 13.

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joe39 When: 20 Oct 14 09:33

18th October
Barclays Premier League. QPR vs Liverpool. QPR 5/1
Result - QPR 2 Liverpool 3.
LOST. Loss 1 point.

Totals
Loss 42.413 points
Staked 205 points
% loss on the year so far 20.69%
207 bets. 65 won, 140 lost, 2 in progress.
Current losing streak 2. Longest winning streak 6. Longest losing streak 13.

By:

joe39 When: 21 Oct 14 20:33

A penny for the thoughts of his followers (Roma 14/5 to beat Bayern Munich. Or 999/1 before half-an-hour has gone).

By:

joe39 When: 26 Oct 14 22:29

21st October
UEFA Champions League. Roma vs Bayern Munich. Roma 14/5
Result - Roma 1 Bayern Munich 7

LOST. Loss 1 point.

22nd October
UEFA Champions League. Liverpool vs Real Madrid. Real Madrid (-1 goal) 2/1
Result - Liverpool 0 Real Madrid 3.
WON. Profit 2 points.

23rd October VOID, tennis player withdrew injured.

24th October
Championship. Fulham vs Charlton Athletic. Charlton 4/1
Result - Fulham 3 Charlton 0.
LOST. Loss 1 point.

25th October
Barclays Premier League. Southampton vs Stoke City. Stoke 11/2
Result - Southampton 1 Stoke 0.
LOST. Loss 1 point.

Totals
Loss 43.413 points
Staked 209 points
% loss on the year so far 20.77%
211 bets. 66 won, 143 lost, 2 (Andy Murray BBC SPOTY 5/6, Ludogorets qualifying 33/1) in progress.
Current losing streak 2. Longest winning streak 6. Longest losing streak 13.

By:

kenilworth When: 27 Oct 14 13:38

Derek doing a very good wind up here. LOL.

By:

CJ70 When: 27 Oct 14 13:54

Oct 27, 2014 -- 1:38PM, kenilworth wrote:

Derek doing a very good wind up here. LOL.

Admirable that you keep coming back to this thread to try and protect one of your idols.

By:

kenilworth When: 27 Oct 14 15:46

I find it funny that you guys take it
so serious. It's hilarious!!

By:

CJ70 When: 27 Oct 14 16:07

Oct 27, 2014 -- 3:46PM, kenilworth wrote:

I find it funny that you guys take it so serious. It's hilarious!!

Of course. That is a completely different attitude to another person calling himself 'kenilworth' earlier in the thread.

It should provide a good lesson to you on why you should do your own research and not follow what is written in the papers.

By:

kenilworth When: 27 Oct 14 16:59

CJ70, be good enough to highlight my opinion earlier in
the thread as I have no idea what you are on about,
no more than you know what you are on about
either.

By:

CJ70 When: 27 Oct 14 18:23

Oct 27, 2014 -- 4:59PM, kenilworth wrote:

CJ70, be good enough to highlight my opinion earlier inthe thread as I have no idea what you are on about,no more than you know what you are on abouteither.

Read the thread, ken. It's that easy. Another case of you don't remember what you were saying?

Instead of throwing abuse at anyone who doesn't worship paper tipsters as idols, you would be better off learning from this thread and others that people pick you up on.

By:

kenilworth When: 27 Oct 14 18:56

Read the thread? 423 posts?? Be a good boy and
highlight what you are twittering about.

By:

CJ70 When: 27 Oct 14 19:46

Oct 27, 2014 -- 6:56PM, kenilworth wrote:

Read the thread? 423 posts?? Be a good boy andhighlight what you are twittering about.

Or just remember what you posted? We go through this all the time, ken. You change your mind half way through a thread and then try and get out of it by pleading that you don't read your own or others posts.

Perhaps if you scroll back a little way you'll be able to find where you said you were leaving the thread? Remember that one?

That's why it's admirable that you make yourself look silly trying to stick up for one of your idols.

By:

kenilworth When: 27 Oct 14 20:10

I committed the heinous crime of saying
I was leaving the thread and then changing
my mind! Is that what you are on about?
I hang my head in shame!! Call the Police!!!
You clown.

By:

CJ70 When: 27 Oct 14 20:48

No. I know you are getting on a bit, but try to remember what you wrote earlier or just read the thread back. It's not that hard for any normal person.

You complain when people think you are a joke, yet you are unable to function on a basic level in a conversation. You don't learn and your response is always to throw abuse when people don't agree with you.

By:

kenilworth When: 27 Oct 14 21:22

I am rude to those who are rude to me,
it's as simple as that, and you fall
into that category right up to your neck.
Everything I say, you disagree with.

By:

CJ70 When: 28 Oct 14 00:11

Oct 27, 2014 -- 9:22PM, kenilworth wrote:

I am rude to those who are rude to me,it's as simple as that, and you fall into that category right up to your neck. Everything I say, you disagree with.

Nobody is rude to you. You are mocked openly by myself and others because you want to be something you are not. I think I've been generously playful towards you considering you can't hold a conversation and struggle with basic betting that isn't back Team A to win at X.

You should learn from this thread and your changes of opinion. I wont hold my breath.

I'll repeat it's admirable that you keep coming back to defend one of the people you clearly admire, but your constant flip-flopping to try and save face does you no favours.

By:

kenilworth When: 28 Oct 14 09:55

Regards Mc Govern, and how I see him. He is a professional
journalist, writes a mildly amusing piece for a Red Top and
most days puts up a bet, without qualification, on all sorts
of sport, IMO a fun bet. It seems that on level stakes, this
bet shows a loss, reportably of between 15% and 20%, which
is what I would expect anyone to 'achieve' under the constraints
he makes his selection(s). It seems some people on here think
he should show a profit for reasons I fail to understand and
and he is mocked unjustly IMO. I have repeatedly invited his critics
to show us/me how it should be done but so far no one has, because
it's virtually impossible for them to do better. I defend any
tipster to win doing what he does, but some people think because
he writes for a newspaper qualifies him as profitable tipster, what
rubbish IMO. I think it's because they almost mostly are losers
overall, and it makes them feel better about themselves. I come
under criticism mainly because I defend him, a heinous act ITO. His
main critic(s), I will just ignore from here on.

how

By:

CJ70 When: 28 Oct 14 12:14

Again your response shows you haven't read the thread and don't understand. It's quite easy and lazy to suggest that the guy you admire is getting heat because he isn't showing a profit.

You both get heat because you both desperately want to be something you are not. You gave the game away in your previous reply, suggesting people were being rude to you on the basis they didn't agree with what you said. It's a bitter mentality and says a lot about where you are coming from.

You'll be back soon enough to the thread. Everyone knows it including yourself.

By:

TexassportsagentBuzz When: 28 Oct 14 16:27

Oct 28, 2014 -- 9:55AM, kenilworth wrote:

Regards Mc Govern, and how I see him. He is a professionaljournalist, writes a mildly amusing piece for a Red Top andmost days puts up a bet, without qualification, on all sortsof sport, IMO a fun bet. It seems that on level stakes, thisbet shows a loss, reportably of between 15% and 20%, whichis what I would expect anyone to 'achieve' under the constraintshe makes his selection(s). It seems some people on here think he should show a profit for reasons I fail to understand andand he is mocked unjustly IMO. I have repeatedly invited his criticsto show us/me how it should be done but so far no one has, becauseit's virtually impossible for them to do better. I defend any tipster to win doing what he does, but some people think becausehe writes for a newspaper qualifies him as profitable tipster, whatrubbish IMO. I think it's because they almost mostly are losersoverall, and it makes them feel better about themselves. I come under criticism mainly because I defend him, a heinous act ITO. Hismain critic(s), I will just ignore from here on.how

I tried it and failed.... Marychain beat him comfortably though....
As I have always said I enjoy most of his jokes and the only thing I object to the fact that it says "sports betting top tipster" above his column. Or is that part of the joke maybe?

By:

kenilworth When: 28 Oct 14 17:34

texas, maybe it is, after it is a Red Top rag, and
shouldn't be taken seriously, any one who does take
it any other way needs to be attended to. GL.

By:

joe39 When: 02 Nov 14 12:26

28th October
Capital One Cup. MK Dons vs Sheffield United. Sheff Utd to qualify 6/5
Result - MK Dons 1 Sheff Utd 2
WON. Profit 1.2 points.

29th October
Paris Masters. Feliciano Lopez vs Sam Querrey. Lopez 11/10
Result - Lopez won 6-4 6-4
WON. Profit 1.1 points.

30th October
Golf, Charles Schwab Championship. Fred Couples to outscore Michael Allen 1st round 10/11
Result - Couples 71, Allen 69.
LOST. Loss 1 point.

31st October
Sky Championship. Norwich City vs Bolton Wanderers. Bolton 11/2
Result - Norwich 2 Bolton 1.
LOST. Loss 1 point.

1st November
Sky League One. Notts County vs Walsall. Notts County 9/5
Result - Notts County 1 Walsall 2.
LOST. Loss 1 point.

Totals
Loss 44.113 points
Staked 214 points
% loss on the year so far 20.61%
216 bets. 68 won, 146 lost, 2 in progress.
Current losing streak 2. Longest winning streak 6. Longest losing streak 13.

By:

joe39 When: 04 Nov 14 23:12

4th November
UEFA Champions League. Borussia Dortmund vs Galatasaray. Galatasaray (+2 goals) 5/4
Result - Dortmund 4 Galatasaray 1.
LOST. Loss 1 point.

Totals
Loss 45.113 points
Staked 215 points
% loss on the year so far 20.98%
217 bets. 68 won, 147 lost, 2 in progress.
Current losing streak 3. Longest winning streak 6. Longest losing streak 13.

By:

joe39 When: 09 Nov 14 17:42

5th November
UEFA Champions League. Sporting Lisbon vs Schalke. Schalke 3/1
Result - Sporting 4 Schalke 2.
LOST. Loss 1 point.

6th November
UEFA Europa League. HJK Helsinki vs Torino. Helsinki 11/2
Result - Helsinki 2 Torino 1.
WON. Profit 5.5 points.

7th November
Sky Championship. Bolton Wanderers vs Wigan Athletic. Bolton 9/5
Result - Bolton 3 Wigan 1.
WON. Profit 1.8 points.

8th November
Barclays Premier League. Tottenham Hotspur vs Stoke City. Stoke 9/2
Result - Spurs 1 Stoke 2.
WON. Profit 4.5 points.

Totals
Loss 34.313 points
Staked 219 points
% loss on the year so far 15.67%
221 bets. 71 won, 148 lost, 2 in progress.
Current winning streak 3. Longest winning streak 6. Longest losing streak 13.

By:

scandanavian_haven When: 16 Dec 14 13:05

Have you given up joe ?

By:

CJ70 When: 16 Dec 14 13:12

Funnily enough, as this thread tailed off McGovern has picked up his online activities again.

Just a coincidence?

By:

scandanavian_haven When: 16 Dec 14 13:22

How do you mean McGovern has picked up his online activities again. ?

By:

CJ70 When: 16 Dec 14 13:29

Dec 16, 2014 -- 1:22PM, scandanavian_haven wrote:

How do you mean McGovern has picked up his online activities again. ?

He's back on Twitter and has restarted his website, also back on Hills giving abuse on their podcasts.

All this has happened since Joe39 stopped updating this thread.