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The Daily Mirror 'Bet Of The Day' Profit and Loss thread for 2014
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21st August
UEFA Europa League qualifier. Aktobe vs Celtic...I mean Legia Warsaw. Legia 7/5 Result - Aktobe 0 Legia Warsaw 1. WON. Profit 1.4 points. Totals Loss 31.13 points Staked 165 points % loss on the season so far 18.87% 166 bets. 55 won, 110 lost, 1 in progress. Current winning streak 1. Longest winning streak 6. Longest losing streak 12. |
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(Thanks to Bergkamp with the paper sold out here)
22nd August Vanarama Conference. Aldershot vs Forest Green Rovers. Forest Green 7/5 Result - Aldershot 1 Forest Green 1 LOST. Loss 1 point. Totals Loss 32.13 points Staked 166 points % loss on the season so far 19.36% 167 bets. 55 won, 111 lost, 1 in progress. Current losing streak 1. Longest winning streak 6. Longest losing streak 12. |
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23rd August
Barclays Premier League. Crystal Palace vs West Ham United. Crystal Palace 6/4 Result - Crystal Palace 1 West Ham 3 LOST. Loss 1 point. Totals Loss 33.13 points Staked 167 points % loss on the season so far 19.84% 168 bets. 55 won, 112 lost, 1 in progress. Current losing streak 2. Longest winning streak 6. Longest losing streak 12. |
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26th August
Capital One Cup. Burnley vs Sheffield Wednesday. Burnley evens. Result - Burnley 0 Sheff Wed 1 LOST. Loss 1 point. 27th August Capital One Cup. Bradford City vs Leeds United. Bradford 13/8 Result - Bradford 2 Leeds 1 WON. Profit 1.625 points. Totals Loss 32.505 points Staked 169 points % loss on the season so far 19.23% 170 bets. 56 won, 113 lost, 1 in progress. Current losing streak 1. Longest winning streak 6. Longest losing streak 12. |
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US Open
28th August Marcel Granollers vs Ivo Karlovic. Granollers 8/5 Result - Granollers won 7-6, 6-7, 7-6, 3-6, 6-4. WON. Profit 1.6 points. 29th August Roberta Vinci vs Shuai Peng. Vinci 6/4 Result - Peng won 6-3 6-4 LOST. Loss 1 point. Totals Loss 31.905 points Staked 171 points % loss on the season so far 18.66% 172 bets. 57 won, 114 lost, 1 in progress. Current losing streak 1. Longest winning streak 6. Longest losing streak 12. |
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30th August
Barclays Premier League. West Ham United vs Southampton. West Ham 15/8 Result - West Ham 1 Southampton 3 LOST. Loss 1 point. Totals Loss 32.905 points Staked 172 points % loss on the season so far 19.13% 173 bets. 57 won, 115 lost, 1 in progress. Current losing streak 2. Longest winning streak 6. Longest losing streak 12. |
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2nd September
Tennis, US Open. Gilles Simon vs Marin Cilic. Simon 7/4 Result - Cilic won 5-7 7-6 6-4 3-6 6-3 LOST. Loss 1 point. Totals Loss 33.905 points Staked 173 points % loss on the season so far 19.6% 174 bets. 57 won, 116 lost, 1 in progress. Current losing streak 3. Longest winning streak 6. Longest losing streak 12. |
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In progress
Ryder Cup (September 26th to 28th). Stephen Gallacher to score the most wild card points (ahead of Westwood and Poulter) 4/1 |
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Guess this has proved it's point about paper tips then!
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You better hope kenilworth has had a good afternoon nap. He'll be super grouchy after comments like that.
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19.6% down after 173 bets is TERRIBLE,
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Just goes to show that their guesses are no better
than the guesses of the vast majority of punters. I ran betting shops for 30 years and the margin was never less than 25%, typical of the average punter, that's why bookmakers lived in in big houses and drove big cars. |
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Yes ken but he is a paid tipster
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He is not a paid tipster, he is a journalist
who does a mildly amusing column in a Daily and throws in a pick for fun every day. Anyone who does that is a certainty to be a net loser, try it yourself and see how successful you are. |
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Calling Derek McGovern a journalist is akin to calling Betfair a casino.
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4th September
US Open. Tomas Berdych vs Marin Cilic. Berdych to win in straight sets 12/5 Result - Cilic won 6-2 6-4 7-6 LOST. Loss 1 point. Totals Loss 34.905 points Staked 174 points % loss on the season so far 20.06% 176 bets. 57 won, 117 lost, 2 in progress. Current losing streak 4. Longest winning streak 6. Longest losing streak 12. |
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To be fair Ken, I personally find something like this interesting - ok I wouldn't assume he would be showing a profit, but still interesting to see how far off breaking even someone like this is. A long way off even that, it seems.
Yes, it is just fun, but lablelling something 'bet of the day' still have some meaning in plain english after all. |
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*labeling even (my plain English poor at this time of day)
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To be fair Ken but you are not being fair!!
Try it stu, a bet every day, picked every day about 36 hours before the event, post on here, and see how far you get. Try it, Don't knock it till you have tried it. |
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I know, but I'm not parading under a label of 'bet of the day' in nationally readable form. I still find posts like this interesting because I've sat on the train reading this stuff wondering, 'I wonder what they're record is like'. Now it's there to see.
I'd also be interested in seeing this for more serious supposedly more betting oriented people who are in print too. |
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*their
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I've tried this myself (cricket forum). So far, I have failed
Kept a record of Kevin Pullein's football tips last season (he won for the 18th straight year - many of his top-priced tips were only available on b365). I'm also keeping the running totals (until the end of the year) on the Post's selections on the cricket forum (they're miles up) and the horse racing forum Price/Wise (slightly up, but only if you are able to grab the very best prices and your accounts haven't been shut down with certain firms). |
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Kevin Pullein could not tip sh ite off a shovel...
He praises the alleged "traders" of a certain Firm from Stoke then every bet is with them... How does that work out as the price has gone before the paper is published and they have closed more accounts than the rest of the alleged "Bookmakers" put together.. Nobet365 absolute scum... |
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joe39 05 Sep 14 20:13 Joined: 14 Mar 08 | Topic/replies: 9,303 | Blogger: joe39's blog
I've tried this myself (cricket forum). So far, I have failed Cry Kept a record of Kevin Pullein's football tips last season (he won for the 18th straight year - many of his top-priced tips were only available on b365). I'm also keeping the running totals (until the end of the year) on the Post's selections on the cricket forum (they're miles up) and the horse racing forum Price/Wise (slightly up, but only if you are able to grab the very best prices and your accounts haven't been shut down with certain firms). IMAGINARY...... |
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McGovern got away with one, he said Wozniacki not to beat Peng in straight sets 11/10.
Caroline was a set and 4-3 up (2 games away from victory), before Peng retired hurt. |
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6th September
League 2. Carlisle vs AFC Wimbledon. Wimbledon 17/10 Result - Carlisle 4 Wimbledon 4. LOST. Loss 1 point. Totals Loss 35.905 points Staked 175 points % loss on the season so far 20.52% 177 bets. 57 won, 118 lost, 2 in progress. Current losing streak 5. Longest winning streak 6. Longest losing streak 12. |
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stu
05 Sep 14 14:09 I know, but I'm not parading under a label of 'bet of the day' in nationally readable form. I still find posts like this interesting because I've sat on the train reading this stuff wondering, 'I wonder what they're record is like'. Now it's there to see. I'd also be interested in seeing this for more serious supposedly more betting oriented people who are in print too. Stu, 'you wonder how their record is like', The answer is... they lose, they always lose, cos the constrains they pick from under will always beat them, as they would beat you, me and anyone else you can think of...the pricing beats everyone. |
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Kenilworth, even if McGovern got the very best price for each and every selection he has made before the off, I would still doubt he would be in profit, in fact I'm pretty sure he would still be showing a loss, but also, for a column which labels him our top tipster, his strike rate is incredibly poor, his Tennis tips in particular are awful. I like his humours quips and the fact he doesn't take himself seriously knowing he's not that good, but on the other hand if I had an audience of over 2 million people a day, I'd take it seriously.
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I agree with most of what you say but give credit for what he
is, a sports journalist who as I have said before, writes a mildly amusing column for a red top and throws in a bet for the sake of it, a bit of fun. What do you expect ...a profit? Do you really expect him to win doing that? What world are you living in? You think it's that easy to win doing that? What does he know that you don't know? I'll tell you, nothing!! |
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this is 22 percent down for god sake get real
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Landed a decent winner today though @ 10-3 Cze Rep win.
Ken like I say whether mildly amusing column or not, he is labelled a top tipster by the mirror, a lot of punters may follow him in under a title like that losing them money, at least unlike pricewise he hasn't lost 50 in a row  of course Horse Racing is a different kettle of fish tbf. |
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Compare kenilworth's comments now and compare them with the comments made at the start of the thread.
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Scandinavian, regards the dynamics of betting you
seem incredibly naïve. If you have a problem with any tipster, try it yourself and you will realise how easy it is.!! |
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kenilworth, you've misunderstood, I don't think 'he' at all considers himself to be a 'tipster', I don't think he takes himself remotely seriously, but that is his title given to him by his paper, not me, it should be renamed Derek's unresearched guess of the day. Because there is no way he knows what he is talking about with tennis. Today he is tempted to back none of the top 4 players winning any of the slams next year, he is good for a laugh I'll give him that. Football he is probably guessing on instinct, and a poor one at that.
I would hazard a guess that anyone on this forum would have a better record than him under the same constraints, that is taking early prices and putting a bet up 24 hours beforehand. |
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i can be points up over the long term
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i can be points up over the long term
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scandanavian_haven 10 Sep 14 00:42 kenilworth, you've misunderstood, I don't think 'he' at all considers himself to be a 'tipster', I don't think he takes himself remotely seriously, but that is his title given to him by his paper, not me, it should be renamed Derek's unresearched guess of the day. Because there is no way he knows what he is talking about with tennis. Today he is tempted to back none of the top 4 players winning any of the slams next year, he is good for a laugh I'll give him that. Football he is probably guessing on instinct, and a poor one at that. I would hazard a guess that anyone on this forum would have a better record than him under the same constraints, that is taking early prices and putting a bet up 24 hours beforehand. Scandinavian, I agree with nearly all of what you say in your last post regards McGovern. I don't know how the 'MIRROR' describe him as I don't think I have read it in the last 10 years plus but if they promote him as a TOP tipster, that is where the grouse is, not with him. GL. |
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9th September
Euro 2016 qualifier. Czech Republic vs Holland. Czech Republic 100/30 Result - Czech Republic 2 Holland 1. WON. Profit 3.333 points. Totals Loss 32.572 points Staked 176 points % loss on the season so far 18.51% 178 bets. 58 won, 118 lost, 2 in progress. Current winning streak 1. Longest winning streak 6. Longest losing streak 12. |
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It's not just about whether he wins or loses Ken - it's also about how far he wins and loses and the patterns as some have pointed out. Perfectly good fodder for reading about in a post on here IMO.
The fact that he loses overall, is like you say fairly predictable, but the other details far less so. |
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Longest losing streak of 12 for a 'bet of the day' in a national publication - fairly awful I'd say.
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