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By:
dsmith
When: 27 Sep 13 23:56
No are you? You are not staking £10 to win £10 laying 6/1 shots you tw4t
By:
marychain1
When: 28 Sep 13 01:03
Saturday's bets for me

1. Ipswich 6/4 main bet
2. Port Vale 19/10 & Reading 19/20 added in for a 13/1 treble
3. Morecambe added in for 40/1 acca
By:
aixau
When: 28 Sep 13 01:38
dsmith, if he's laying a £10 stake and he wins, his profit is exactly £10, what's your point? he didn't say his responsability was £10
By:
Mr Mischief
When: 28 Sep 13 04:10
dmiths pishtCrazyeither that or he worried Kelvin Wilson doesn't start tomorrow
By:
Mr Mischief
When: 28 Sep 13 04:12
ps keep up the good work dragon. got on qpr last week and following again on Wolves. Well thought out and analysed tips always appreciatedCool
By:
Panther65
When: 28 Sep 13 06:24
hi dragon,

i think what smithy is trying to say is,

DRAGON, when you lay are a 5/1 shot, are you risking 50 to win 10 and so on, as to make a profit of 10 per lay ????
By:
dsmith
When: 28 Sep 13 08:05
Exactly that panther, he's basically winning £2 each game staking £10 level stakes

So is in fact about £8 up not £40 but I'm the thick one lol

Wool over people's eyes htehb?

Good luck today dragon is still prefer people to win just wish you'd be honest with people
By:
The Dragon
When: 28 Sep 13 08:27
spot on panther yes
By:
The Dragon
When: 28 Sep 13 08:28
i think smith is just trying to pick faults as he has done from day 1
By:
The Dragon
When: 28 Sep 13 08:30
its not rocket science is it smith has a deluded notion that im out to trick people!!!!!!

obsessed just like kenilworth

now lets get back to the football

they look good shouts mary
By:
The Dragon
When: 28 Sep 13 08:31
thanks mr mishchief lets hope they oblige
By:
dsmith
When: 28 Sep 13 08:32
No I'm just pointing out dragon that you are £8 up to level £10 stakes not £40 and you're being the thick one

I genuinely think you are just a bit thick and not a scammer like a lot of people do. But just like I stated earlier in the thread god help anybody who challenges anything you say

Do the p&l correctly for the sake of your followers it's only fair.
By:
dsmith
When: 28 Sep 13 08:35
Oh and btw panther is agreeing with me
By:
The Dragon
When: 28 Sep 13 08:44
smithy i am laying the lay bet to a 10 profit 4 lays have won therefore the oprofit is 40 if the lay  bet losses then the profit will soon be wiped out

simples

big game for your guys today
By:
The Dragon
When: 28 Sep 13 08:45
oh and by thhe way i am just using the ten pound figure for illustrative purposes i actually bet a lot more
By:
dsmith
When: 28 Sep 13 08:46
Well that is not how you work out a p&l to £10 level stakes, but you do as you like.

Yes huge game hopefully wilson is fit.

Look out for me on the box I'm the handsome one 5 rows from the front on the halfway line
By:
The Dragon
When: 28 Sep 13 08:47
oh and calling me a tw&t is not very helpfulDevil
By:
dsmith
When: 28 Sep 13 08:49
No but neither is saying are you thick or what in response to a genuine question now is it?
By:
The Dragon
When: 28 Sep 13 09:06
natural response to your aggressive postings
By:
The Dragon
When: 28 Sep 13 09:08
anyway lets move on i did not start posting again on here to get involved in this sort of conversation please keep your comments to the football and avoid all personal insults
By:
The Dragon
When: 28 Sep 13 09:14
enjoy your game today
By:
dsmith
When: 28 Sep 13 09:16
Thank you I hope I do

And good luck with your bets

Only on 9 points bookings and overs in the match for me
By:
AyersRock
When: 28 Sep 13 09:17
Good luck today, ignore that tart dmsith
By:
carlos12345
When: 28 Sep 13 09:17
DSMith is technically correct on how P&L is worked out, to claim a £40 profit is a bit of a liberty. However if thats how Dragon is going to work out his lay bets then that should be fine for the purposes of this thread. Dragon is correct that by measuring his P&L this way it will wipe out any profit with the occasional loss.

I do think Dragon succeeds with his excellent write ups, but does fall down a little with his statistics.
By:
stewardsenquirey
When: 28 Sep 13 09:28
I think Dragon gives well thought out bets and always gives well written reasoning behind them,however my only gripe would be is that he seems to be a bit long of himself in that if one of his selections shortens in price he seems to think it's solely because he has tipped it up and not because other people have actually done their own homework and latched onto some of the stats that actually made it one of his own selections.

Far worse people than Dragon on the football forum(least he enjoys his football) and if he keeps his selections to his own thread I can't see what harm he does.
By:
AyersRock
When: 28 Sep 13 09:36
Who cares what his p&l is?

It's not the point - it's not actually anyone's concern is it, what is anyone fussing over how much profit someone else is making?

The point is the write ups and reasoning behind the bets - from that point on you decide if it;s a bet for you, either way it's a an interesting and enjoyable read, people trying to trip people up over their p&l need to get laid imo
By:
scotbet
When: 28 Sep 13 09:42
i quite like the handbag stuff
By:
dsmith
When: 28 Sep 13 09:52
Forum would be boring without it scot wouldnt it lol

Me and dragon have a long standing love hate relationship but I'm sure he knows it's harmless and I likewise, so there's really no need for you to keep chirping in ayersrock but it's a open forum so you do as you like and I will also.
By:
kenilworth
When: 28 Sep 13 10:05
Why doesn't the OP simply post the bets and stakes relating
to his declared p/l and then there would be confusion?
By:
kenilworth
When: 28 Sep 13 10:26
He claims certain profits that people question,
so why not declare notional staking, results
and p/l? It wouldn't be difficult at this stage
after a couple of weeks, would it?
By:
dsmith
When: 28 Sep 13 10:51
I guess it's his business how much he's staking with ken, but if he's doing £10 level stakes p&l then he shouldn't be misleading people into thinking his lay bets are plus £40 for 4 level £10 staking, because that is simply not true, he's plus £8 from £10 Level stakes regardless of what he is actually staking.
By:
carlos12345
When: 28 Sep 13 11:02
Dsmith is spot on.

Also I recall his first lay selection was a confernece north game with no liquidity to actually lay a bet, therefore making it impossible to win anything, however you are measuring it!
By:
The Dragon
When: 28 Sep 13 12:18
thats what i have done Ken maybe i will leave the P&L info off in future as people seem to get hung up on it!!!
By:
Panther65
When: 28 Sep 13 12:23
Dragon,

leave the p&l on...it looks more credible imo, as it should to everybody else now youve explained your lay strategy

GL
By:
The Dragon
When: 28 Sep 13 12:31
ok panther will doCool
By:
kenilworth
When: 28 Sep 13 12:40
If you want any credibility in your attempts to sell
yourself to people then you have to declare price and
stake when posting your bets otherwise you can claim
anything. I remember from a couple of years ago your
ROI claims and profit figures left something to be
desired, and hard to take seriously.
By:
The Dragon
When: 28 Sep 13 12:49
Other High point scoring teams teams were as follows:

HOME

Leicester and QPR

Aways

Camdidge,nuneaton and Liverpool
By:
colupaul
When: 28 Sep 13 13:33
Oh dear... this thread has sunk into banality once again...

My bets:

Morecambe home/draw
Burnley
Fleetwood
Dagenham

2 accas paying 20/1ish... good luck.
By:
The Dragon
When: 28 Sep 13 13:35
good luck col hopefully it will get better as the gripers disappear
By:
kenilworth
When: 28 Sep 13 13:49
dragon, you have to take brickbats as well as the
plaudits, stay honest and no body will bother you, as
Bannatyne would say ' I'm out' of this thread (that is
unless I'm provoked)GL
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