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By:
shudacuda
When: 02 Jul 12 16:05
Ye 3rd division plus certain conditions.
By:
mactheknife
When: 02 Jul 12 16:11
Is that all Laugh
Well Id settle for that, as long as the conditions wernae complete obliteration at a whim.
By:
shudacuda
When: 02 Jul 12 16:15
Nah,definitely not complete obliteration Wink

I need to see them suffer and argue amongst themselves for a few years.
By:
mactheknife
When: 02 Jul 12 16:16
Aye that`s what ah thought m8.
It`s a sufferin yaes want tae see right enuff.
By:
mactheknife
When: 03 Jul 12 08:48
Secret talks to keep Rangers in the SPL.
By:
mactheknife
When: 03 Jul 12 08:51
We could get relegated if this happens, we dont have the players left to compete in the SPL
By:
mactheknife
When: 03 Jul 12 09:20
Rangers in crisis: Breakaway group of SPL chiefs hold secret talks to keep Ibrox newco in the top flight
Jul 3 2012 Exclusive by James Traynor

Ibrox Stadium

RANGERS and a breakaway group of SPL clubs were last night on the brink of a compromise deal which would secure the Ibrox club’s place in the top flight.
Frantic talks have been held in secret between Charles Green and a number of SPL chairmen who fear at least three of their members could be shut down if Rangers newco are forced to begin life in the SFL’s Third Division.
They had hoped the SFL would accommodate Rangers in the First Division but because some lower-league clubs have been railing against such a compromise, more than a few top-flight outfits are panic-stricken.
They have been warned as much as £15million could be wiped off the value of their deals with Sky and ESPN if Rangers are frozen out of the SPL for more than one season.
Already they fear being denied the £645,000 they are each due to receive from the TV companies on August 6.
And without that revenue and additional slices of the financial pie later in the year it is feared several SPL clubs, perhaps including Kilmarnock, Motherwell and Dundee United, could be facing closure.
The SFL will meet today to discuss a raft of demands if they are to take in Scottish football’s unwanted club but the SPL will gather tomorrow when they might well perform one of the most spectacular U-turns ever instead of kicking Rangers out.
Seven of them – Aberdeen, Dundee United, Hearts, Hibernian, Inverness, St Johnstone and St Mirren – have already made it clear they wouldn’t vote to let Rangers back in to the top flight but financial reality is biting hard. They and others are being forced to think again.
And we can reveal they are also considering changing tomorrow’s crucial vote from a show of hands to a secret ballot but last night further talks aimed at saving the game were held in the hope of gathering enough support to keep Rangers in the SPL.
Record Sport can reveal a six-point punishment package has all but been agreed by Green who is desperate to keep his club in the SPL. The deal is:
● Back SPL voting reform which would destroy the Old Firm’s voting power.
● Rangers must approve and support a more equitable SPL income distribution which would cut payments to the Old Firm.
● Rangers must accept a points deduction.
● They also have to agree to pay all UK and European football debts.
● The transfer embargo they had overturned in the Court of Session must remain.
● A public apology must be made and Rangers must also accept responsibility for past misdemeanours.
Green, worried that not every club will have been made aware of the compromise on offer, has started speaking directly with chairmen and owners and a source at the heart of the secret talks said: “These are substantial punishments which are being suggested and have been on the table for almost four weeks. It is not a last minute package.
“But it is feared some clubs may not be aware of the comprehensive nature of the offer on the table so time is of the essence. Green has a helicopter at the ready and will fly anywhere and anytime to every club in the SPL to speak directly with the chairmen and owners.
“It is not just Rangers who face oblivion. The entire future of Scottish football as we know it is at stake. This is the nature of the crisis with which we are now faced.”
Our source also made it clear it’s the threat to crucial TV money which has sparked the frantic rounds of last minute talks and stressed: “Sky and ESPN are willing to tolerate one year without Rangers in the top flight but they have been shocked by the suggestion Rangers might be out the SPL for three years.
“The stark reality we are now facing is that if Rangers are relegated and SFL clubs then force them down into the Third Division, as has been suggested, the SPL’s remaining teams will face their own financial Armageddon.
“As many as FIVE teams, possibly among them Motherwell, Dundee United and Kilmarnock could go to the wall and the beginning of the end could start as soon as August 6.
“That’s the date every club receives a cheque for £645,000 which is the first tranche of next season’s TV money.”
Without that cash some clubs won’t be able to pay wage bills and will then face financial meltdown.
It’s thought that during talks with TV chiefs last month it was indicated they would operate for 12 months without Rangers in the SPL despite having a deal which promises four Old Firm matches each season.
But since those talks there have been stronger suggestions that the SFL might vote to put Rangers in the bottomdivision and a source close to the telly negotiations said: “This came as a massive surprise. The threat to the TV money means we are staring into an immediate financial abyss.
“By voting Rangers out of the SPL and forcing them into the Third Division clubs will be voting for their own demise.
“Not only would the SPL clubs lose their TV revenues, the smaller clubs would lose the £2m drip feed they receive from the SPL. That represents a huge proportion of their revenues.
“So they too would be voting for oblivion. In the light of this dramatic and unexpected change in circumstances SPL clubs are being asked to think again before they decide to eject Rangers from the SPL.
“Many club bosses have been making statements in recent days and weeks saying they will vote Rangers out but they need to re-assess the situation and let the fans know the realities their own clubs now face.
“They need to think again and think very hard about what they are doing.”
By changing the vote on Rangers’ future from a show of hands to a secret ballot it is believed that some chairmen will find it easier to change their minds.
“If the SPL votes Rangers out they put their futures in the hands of the SFL who would then be able to vote Rangers into the Third Division and effectively terminate the TV deal,” our source said.
“The initial plan was to see Rangers out for 12 months with the expectation they would bounce straight back and Sky had no wish to effectively kill the Scottish game by pulling their deal.
“They were willing to compromise and the resurrection of the Glasgow Cup, which would probably result in an Old Firm game, was suggested along with arrangements for friendly matches between Rangers and Celtic to help their situation by boosting viewing figures and advertising revenues.
“That’s up in the air now as it was never anticipated the smaller clubs would flex their muscles in this way.
“The situation is at critical level with so many SPL teams unable to continue if Sky pull their cash. This isn’t scare-mongering, just plain fact.”

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By:
shudacuda
When: 03 Jul 12 12:12
More scaremonging by the MSN.

The Daily Retard has been in full flow this week sprouting utter tripe and downright lies without naming any names or producing any facts.


Likes of Jim Traynor,Chic Young are also in their death throes
By:
TheBetterBettor
When: 03 Jul 12 12:27
Football integrity does not pay the footballers wages...

Sky will pull the plug thats for sure.
By:
breadnbutter
When: 03 Jul 12 13:11
***********************
NEW RULES VOTED THROUGH
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entire sfa rule book ripped up .

the following will take effect from season 2014.

ALL MEMBER CLUBS AGREE THE THINK-TANKS FINDINGS WILL INSPIRE THE NEXT GENERATION .


THE RULES WERE FORMERLY RUBBER STAMPED AND ALL CLUBS LOOK FORWARD TO THE SEASON AHEAD WITH A NEW OPTIMISM NOT SEEN IN SCOTLAND SINCE MIDGE CREAM REPLACED DIESEL AS AN INSECT REPELLENT .


Matches shall be played over three unequal periods: two playtimes and a lunchtime. Each of these periods shall begin shortly after the ringing of a bell, and although a bell is also rung towards the end of these periods, play may continue for up to ten minutes afterwards, depending on the nihilism or "bottle" of the participants with regard to corporal punishment met out to latecomers back to the classroom. In practice there is a sliding scale of nihilism, from those who hasten to stand in line as soon as the bell rings, known as "poofs", through those who will hang on until the time they estimate it takes the teachers to down the last of their gins and journey from the staffroom, known as "chancers", and finally to those who will hang on until a teacher actually has to physically retrieve them, known as "bampots". This sliding scale is intended to radically alter the logistics of a match in progress, often having dramatic effects on the scoreline as the number of remaining participants drops. It is important, therefore, in picking the sides, to achieve a fair balance of poofs, chancers and bampots in order that the scoreline achieved over a sustained period of play - a lunchtime, for instance - is not totally nullified by a five-minute post-bell onslaught of five bampots against one. The scoreline to be carried over from the previous period of the match is in the trust of the last bampots to leave the field of play, and may be the matter of some debate. This must be resolved in one of the approved manners (see Adjudication).



Parameters


The object is to force the ball between two large, unkempt piles of jackets, in lieu of goalposts. These piles may grow or shrink throughout the match, depending on the number of participants and the prevailing weather. As the number of players increases, so shall the piles. Each jacket added to the pile by a new addition to a side should be placed on the inside, nearest the goalkeeper, thus reducing the target area. It is also important that the sleeve of one of the jackets should jut out across the goalmouth, as it will often be claimed that the ball went "over the post" and it can henceforth be asserted that the outstretched sleeve denotes the innermost part of the pile and thus the inside of the post. The on-going reduction of the size of the goal is the responsibility of any respectable defence and should be undertaken conscientiously with resourcefulness and imagination.
In the absence of a crossbar, the upper limit of the target area is observed as being slightly above head height, although when the height at which a ball passed between the jackets is in dispute, judgement shall lie with an arbitrary adjudicator from one of the sides. He is known as the "best fighter"; his decision is final and may be enforced with physical violence if anyone wants to stretch a point.
There are no pitch markings. Instead, physical objects denote the boundaries, ranging from the most common - walls and buildings - to roads or burns. Corners and throw-ins are redundant where bylines or touchlines are denoted by a two-storey building or a six-foot granite wall. Instead, a scrum should be instigated to decide possession. This should begin with the ball trapped between the brickwork and two opposing players, and should escalate to include as many team members as can get there before the now egg-shaped ball finally emerges, drunkenly and often with a dismembered foot and shin attached. At this point, goalkeepers should look out for the player who takes possession of the escaped ball and begins bearing down on goal, as most of those involved in the scrum will be unaware that the ball is no longer amidst their feet. The goalkeeper should also try not to be distracted by the inevitable fighting that has by this point broken out.
In games on large open spaces, the length of the pitch is obviously denoted by the jacket piles, but the width is a variable. In the absence of roads, water hazards or "a big dug", the width is determined by how far out the attacking winger has to meander before the pursuing defender gets fed up and lets him head back towards where the rest of the players are waiting, often as far as quarter of a mile away. It is often observed that the playing area is "no' a full-size pitch". This can be invoked verbally to justify placing a wall of players eighteen inches from the ball at direct free kicks It is the formal response to "yards", which the kick-taker will incant meaninglessly as he places the ball.

The Ball


There is a variety of types of ball approved for Primary School Football. I shall describe three notable examples.


1. The plastic balloon. An extremely lightweight model, used primarily in the early part of the season and seldom after that due to having burst. Identifiable by blue pentagonal panelling and the names of that year's Premier League sides printed all over it. Advantages: low sting factor, low burst-nose probability, cheap, discourages a long-ball game. Disadvantages: over-susceptible to influence of the wind, difficult to control, almost magnetically drawn to flat school roofs whence never to return.


2. The rough-finish Mitre. Half football, half Portuguese Man o' War. On the verge of a ban in the European Court of Human Rights, this model is not for sale to children. Used exclusively by teachers during gym classes as a kind of aversion therapy. Made from highly durable fibre-glass, stuffed with neutron star and coated with dead jellyfish. Advantages: looks quite grown up, makes for high-scoring matches (keepers won't even attempt to catch it). Disadvantages: scars or maims anything it touches.


3. The "Tubey". Genuine leather ball, identifiable by brown all-over colouring. Was once black and white, before ravages of games on concrete, but owners can never remember when. Adored by everybody, especially keepers. Advantages: feels good, easily controlled, makes a satisfying "whump" noise when you kick it. Disadvantages: turns into medicine ball when wet, smells like a dead dog.



Offside


There is no offside, for two reasons: one, "it's no' a full-size pitch", and two, none of the players actually know what offside is. The lack of an offside rule gives rise to a unique sub-division of strikers. These players hang around the opposing goalmouth while play carries on at the other end, awaiting a long pass forward out of defence which they can help past the keeper before running the entire length of the pitch with their arms in the air to greet utterly imaginary adulation. These are known variously as "poachers", "gloryhunters" and "fly wee bastarts". These players display a remarkable degree of self-security, seemingly happy in their own appraisals of their achievements, and caring little for their team-mates' failure to appreciate the contribution they have made. They know that it can be for nothing other than their enviable goal tallies that they are so bitterly despised.



Adjudication


The absence of a referee means that disputes must be resolved between the opposing teams rather than decided by an arbiter. There are two accepted ways of doing this.
1. Compromise. An arrangement is devised that is found acceptable by both sides. Sway is usually given to an action that is in accordance with the spirit of competition, ensuring that the game does not turn into "a pure skoosh". For example, in the event of a dispute as to whether the ball in fact crossed the line, or whether the ball has gone inside or "over" the post, the attacking side may offer the ultimatum: "Penalty or goal." It is not recorded whether any side has ever opted for the latter. It is on occasions that such arrangements or ultimata do not prove acceptable to both sides that the second adjudicatory method comes into play.
2. Fighting. Those up on their ancient Hellenic politics will understand that the concept we know as "justice" rests in these circumstances with the hand of the strong. What the winner says, goes, and what the winner says is just, for who shall dispute him? It is by such noble philosophical principles that the supreme adjudicator, or Best Fighter, is effectively elected.



Team Selection


To ensure a fair and balanced contest, teams are selected democratically in a turns-about picking process, with either side beginning as a one-man selection committee and growing from there. The initial selectors are usually the recognised two Best Players of the assembled group. Their first selections will be the two recognised Best Fighters, to ensure a fair balance in the adjudication process, and to ensure that they don't have their own performances impaired throughout the match by profusely bleeding noses. They will then proceed to pick team-mates in a roughly meritocratic order, selecting on grounds of skill and tactical awareness, but not forgetting that while there is a sliding scale of players' ability, there is also a sliding scale of players' brutality and propensities towards motiveless violence. A selecting captain might baffle a talented striker by picking the less nimble Big Jazza ahead of him, and may explain, perhaps in the words of Linden B Johnson upon his retention of J Edgar Hoover as the head of the FBI, that he'd "rather have him inside the tent pissing out, than outside the tent pissing in".
Special consideration is also given during the selection process to the owner of the ball. It is tacitly acknowledged to be "his gemme", and he must be shown a degree of politeness for fear that he takes the huff at being picked late and withdraws his favours.
Another aspect of team selection that may confuse those only familiar with the game at senior level will be the choice of goalkeepers, who will inevitably be the last players to be picked. Unlike in the senior game, where the goalkeeper is often the tallest member of his team, in the playground, the goalkeeper is usually the smallest. Senior aficionados must appreciate that playground selectors have a different agenda and are looking for altogether different properties in a goalkeeper. These can be listed briefly as: compliance, poor fighting ability, meekness, fear and anything else that makes it easier for their team-mates to banish the wee bugger between the sticks while they go off in search of personal glory up the other end.



Tactics


Playground football tactics are best explained in terms of team formation. Whereas senior sides tend to choose - according to circumstance - from among a number of standard options (eg 4-4-2, 4-3-3, 5-3-2), the playground side is usually more rigid in sticking to the all-purpose 1-1-17 formation. This formation is a sturdy basis for the unique style of play, ball-flow and territorial give-and-take that makes the playground game such a renowned and strategically engrossing spectacle. Just as the 5-3-2 formation is sometimes referred to in practice as "Cattenaccio", the 1-1-17 formation gives rise to a style of play that is best described as "Nomadic". All but perhaps four of the participants (see also Offside) migrate en masse from one area of the pitch to another, following the ball, and it is tactically vital that every last one of them remains within a ten-yard radius of it at all times.



Stoppages


Much stoppage time in the senior game is down to injured players requiring treatment on the field of play. The playground game flows free having adopted the refereeing philosophy of "no Post-Mortem, no free-kick", and play will continue around and even on top of a participant who has fallen in the course of his endeavours. However, the playground game is nonetheless subject to other interruptions, and some examples are listed below.
Ball on school roof or over school wall. The retrieval time itself is negligible in these cases. The stoppage is most prolonged by the argument to decide which player must risk life, limb or four of the belt to scale the drainpipe or negotiate the barbed wire in order to return the ball to play. Disputes usually arise between the player who actually struck the ball and any others he claims it may have struck before disappearing into forbidden territory. In the case of the Best Fighter having been adjudged responsible for such an incident, a volunteer is often required to go in his stead or the game may be abandoned, as the Best Fighter is entitled to observe that A: "Ye canny make me"; or B: "It's no' ma baw anyway".
Stray dog on pitch. An interruption of unpredictable duration. The dog does not have to make off with the ball, it merely has to run around barking loudly, snarling and occasionally drooling or foaming at the mouth. This will ensure a dramatic reduction in the number of playing staff as 27 of them simultaneously volunteer to go indoors and inform the teacher of the threat. The length of the interruption can sometimes be gauged by the breed of dog. A deranged Irish Setter could take ten minutes to tire itself of running in circles, for instance, while a Jack Russell may take up to fifteen minutes to corner and force out through the gates. An Alsatian means instant abandonment.
Bigger boys steal ball. A highly irritating interruption, the length of which is determined by the players' experience in dealing with this sort of thing. The intruders will seldom actually steal the ball, but will improvise their own kickabout amongst themselves, occasionally inviting the younger players to attempt to tackle them. Standing around looking bored and unimpressed usually results in a quick restart. Shows of frustration and engaging in attempts to win back the ball can prolong the stoppage indefinitely. Informing the intruders that one of the players' older brother is "Mad Chic Murphy" or some other noted local pugilist can also ensure minimum delay.
Menopausal old bag confiscates ball. More of a threat in the street or local green kickabout than within the school walls. Sad, blue-rinsed, ill-tempered, Tory-voting cat-owner transfers her anger about the array of failures that has been her life to nine-year-olds who have committed the heinous crime of letting their ball cross her privet Line of Death. Interruption (loss of ball) is predicted to last "until you learn how to play with it properly", but instruction on how to achieve this without actually having the bloody thing is not usually forwarded. Tact is required in these circumstances, even when the return of the ball seems highly unlikely, as further irritation of woman may result in the more serious stoppage:
Menopausal old bag calls police.



Celebration


Goal-scorers are entitled to a maximum run of thirty yards with their hands in the air, making crowd noises and saluting imaginary packed terraces. Congratulation by team-mates is in the measure appropriate to the importance of the goal in view of the current scoreline (for instance, making it 34-12 does not entitle the player to drop to his knees and kiss his top), and the extent of the scorer's contribution. A fabulous solo dismantling of the defence or 25-yard* rocket shot will elicit applause and back-pats from the entire team and the more magnanimous of the opponents. However, a tap-in in the midst of a chaotic scramble will be heralded with the epithet "poachin' wee bastart" from the opposing defence amidst mild acknowledgment from team-mates. Applying an unnecessary final touch when a ball is already rolling into the goal will elicit a burst nose from the original striker. Kneeling down to head the ball over the line when defence and keeper are already beaten will elicit a thoroughly deserved kicking. As a footnote, however, it should be stressed that any goal scored by the Best Fighter will be met with universal acclaim, even if it falls into any of the latter three categories.
*Actually eight yards, but calculated as relative distance because "it's no' a full-size pitch".



Penalties


At senior level, each side often has one appointed penalty-taker, who will defer to a team-mate in special circumstances, such as his requiring one more for a hat-trick. The playground side has two appointed penalty-takers: the Best Player and the Best Fighter. The arrangement is simple: the Best Player takes the penalties when his side is a retrievable margin behind, and the Best Fighter at all other times. If the side is comfortably in front, the ball-owner may be invited to take a penalty.
Goalkeepers are often the subject of temporary substitutions at penalties, forced to give up their position to the Best Player or Best Fighter, who recognise the kudos attached to the heroic act of saving one of these kicks, and are buggered if Wee Titch is going to steal any of it.



Close Season


This is known also as the Summer Holidays, which the players usually spend dabbling briefly in other sports: tennis for a fortnight while Wimbledon is on the telly; pitch-and-putt for four days during the Open; and cricket for about an hour and a half until they discover that it really is as boring to play as it is to watch
By:
shudacuda
When: 03 Jul 12 13:30
This is what David Murray said when Airdrie were in trouble a few years ago.

Airdrie's problems worsened when it was revealed that Rangers had arrested the club's share of the gate receipts for Sunday's Scottish Cup tie at Dundee United.

Airdrie's finances have been tackled by David Murray

Ibrox chairman David Murray applied for an interdict, on behalf of his company Carnegie, for a debt of around £30,000 owed by Airdrie.

Mr Murray said: "I feel very sorry for Airdrie and their supporters but we're running a business. We have given them repeated warnings and felt they were playing on our good nature
By:
iamajambo
When: 03 Jul 12 13:31
If this is original,wd.
By:
breadnbutter
When: 03 Jul 12 14:15
no not my work Sad,just thought a bit of humour might be in order.

CryCryCry
By:
TheBetterBettor
When: 03 Jul 12 14:19
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** WE DON´T DO WALKING AWAY, UNLESS YOU´RE SKY **
By:
mactheknife
When: 03 Jul 12 15:13
Is Jane from the Sky Help team in on the executive level decisions?
By:
mactheknife
When: 03 Jul 12 15:23
SFL teams basically dont want Rangers in Div 1 next season.
Source Sky Sports.
By:
mactheknife
When: 03 Jul 12 15:25
So now, its either Suspension, Expelled all together, Div 3, or SPL?
By:
shudacuda
When: 03 Jul 12 17:56
mac i think its best that the new team you support takes a year off.

This would give them some breathing space to get their finances,plans,stories in order.
By:
mactheknife
When: 03 Jul 12 18:12
I could live with that Shouda m8.
Whatever happens we will have to accept anyway.
By:
shudacuda
When: 03 Jul 12 21:34
Well,well,well

Would you believe it?

It now appears Celtic want newco in div 1.

Does that mean the Celtic fans will now be boycotting Celtic as they threatened any team who helped the newco?
By:
hearts1874
When: 03 Jul 12 21:39
celtic are a joke, miss their rivals , cant live without their nearest and dearestLove FOOLS.
By:
mactheknife
When: 03 Jul 12 21:40
Any source for that Shouda?
By:
mactheknife
When: 03 Jul 12 21:42
They have been quiet.
By:
shudacuda
When: 03 Jul 12 21:51
Graham Spiers
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I can just about guarantee what Peter Lawwell and the Celtic boardroom want re this "Rangers punishment": Div 1 NOT Div 3.
By:
mactheknife
When: 03 Jul 12 21:59
Well he`s not one to to bandy about falsehoods.
By:
mactheknife
When: 03 Jul 12 22:01
The SFL sides dont seem to want us either though?
By:
festivalfanatic
When: 03 Jul 12 22:45
This is a real conundrum. Integrity = financially poorer. Celtic will want the newco in Div1 at the very worst. Their season ticket sales will collapse if newco are consigned to the lowest level. Conversely, they might be able to stem the damage with them out of the top flight for just one season.
By:
TheBetterBettor
When: 04 Jul 12 00:01
Money talks......
By:
TheBetterBettor
When: 04 Jul 12 00:06
Open goal to put your bitter rivial in the rubbish skip for good...and they blew it-


KILL THE BILL MY ARS€
By:
mactheknife
When: 04 Jul 12 05:41
Rangers: SPL chairmen ponder vote in late-night discussions

Worried Scottish Premier League chairmen are believed to be holding a late night conference call as they try to resolve the crisis over Rangers.
It came the night before a vote of the 12 clubs to decide on the application from Charles Green's newco Rangers to be admitted to the top flight.
Motherwell have become the eighth club likely to vote against.
But the vote comes amid warnings about the future of Scottish football should Rangers drop to Division Three.
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For avoidance of doubt, the club will not be supporting the application

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Scottish Football League clubs had gathered to consider that option and the alternative of placing the Ibrox club in Division One.
At least 10 SFL clubs had confirmed their opposition to the First Division plan before the meeting.
However, addressed by Scottish Football Association chief executive Stewart Regan and SPL counterpart Neil Doncaster, they were given more detail on claims made in a controversial document outlining the commercial impact of the options.
It includes an assertion that £16m would be lost to the Scottish game if Rangers are relaunched in the Third Division.
No vote had been planned at the SFL meeting and the 30 clubs agreed to consult with their own boards and fans then meet again on 12 July, when a vote is expected.
BBC Scotland understands that some involved in the conference call - between the 11 SPL clubs, excluding Rangers - are pressing for their own vote to be postponed to allow the lower league clubs to make a decision on Rangers' fate.

SFL club representatives met at Hampden to discuss the Rangers crisis
A number of clubs have listened to the views of their fans, who want Rangers refused entry to the SPL, but fear a resulting loss of television and other revenue would cripple their own finances.
Motherwell became the latest to signal their intentions following the result of a survey among members of the Well Society and shareholders.
With the club's board having promised that the result would help determine their stance, 82% of the 661 taking part rejected the proposal to allow the newco Rangers into the SPL.
St Johnstone issued a statement reaffirming their intention to vote against the application from Green's consortium.
"There has been a good deal of press speculation in advance of tomorrow's meeting of the SPL clubs with regard to how each club will cast their vote in relation to the newco Rangers application to join the SPL," it said.
"For avoidance of doubt, the club's position remains as per the statement which was issued on Monday 25 June confirming that the club will not be supporting the application."
Aberdeen, Dundee United, Hearts, Hibernian, Inverness Caledonian Thistle and St Mirren have also all previously stated that they will vote against, with Celtic, Kilmarnock and Ross County yet to make a firm commitment.
Meanwhile, the Rangers Fans Fighting Fun has claimed that a poll of supporters showed that 75% of the club's fans would rather play in Division Three than accept a compromise deal for a place in Division One.
Only 3% wanted to accept a place in Division One if it meant that sanctions were inherited as a result of the actions of the old Rangers, which is heading for liquidation.
Even a place in Division One without sanctions only received the support of 20%.
By:
mactheknife
When: 04 Jul 12 06:00
Death wish: No to Division One 'will leave six SPL clubs on the brink'
By BRIAN MARJORIBANKS
PUBLISHED: 23:14, 3 July 2012 | UPDATED: 00:39, 4 July 2012
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A gun was held to the heads of  Scottish Football League clubs as they were warned a ‘no’ vote to Rangers being parachuted into the First Division could see six SPL clubs  struggling to survive.
As Rangers stepped up a charm offensive ahead of today’s SPL meeting at  Hampden by issuing a public apology for the sins of past owners, wavering top-flight clubs could yet postpone a vote again as they consider a raft of proposals drawn up by newco Ibrox owner Charles Green.
St Mirren chairman Stewart Gilmour told a fans’ forum last night he did not know if a vote would actually take place today, although it was believed that some SPL chairman held a late-night conference call to press for their own vote to be postponed to allow SFL clubs to decide Rangers’ fate.

Ideas man: Newco Ibrox owner Charles Green has put forward proposals to SPL clubs
Motherwell are expected be the latest club to vote against newco Rangers staying in the SPL after a poll of Fir Park fans revealed they were against the plans.


But, despite dire warnings of fiscal meltdown for Scotland’s top flight if the SFL rejects the Rangers proposal — including the claim that £17million of television deals are at risk — outspoken Raith Rovers chairman Turnbull Hutton last night declared the crisis engulfing Scottish football proves the SPL is ‘dead’.
‘There is going to be a bit of pain (if SFL clubs reject Rangers) but, in essence, the SPL is now like a dead parrot,’ he said. ‘It’s financially unsustainable and it’s hardly up to the First Division to sustain it.
‘There should maybe now be a recognition from the top that the SPL is dead and let’s wind it up. It hasn’t worked since its inception; it has been a failure.
‘It’s all gone belly-up, so let’s start again. I’m sure the SFL would welcome applications from some of the teams who are currently in the SPL to join an organisation that is based on sporting integrity.

Decisions, decisions: Raith Rovers chairman Turnbull Hutton chats to club director Eric Drysdale at Hampden
‘I’d love a couple of resignations over this. But I’d love promotion and for Raith Rovers to win the European Cup as well.’
It was confirmed at yesterday’s meeting that a simple majority of 16 out of the 30 SFL teams is now all that is needed to vote Rangers into the First Division. But the proposal was met with widespread hostility from SFL clubs, whose board plans to meet again tomorrow after the SPL summit at Hampden.
Should a decision be reached today by top-flight clubs, SFL chief executive David Longmuir is expected to call for an EGM to decide the issue, to be held next Tuesday at the earliest.
SFL chairmen last night spoke bitterly of an ‘abdication of responsibility’ by the game’s rulers as they left the six-hour meeting, which included presentations by SPL chief Neil Doncaster and SFA boss Stewart Regan.
But Longmuir praised an informative meeting which left his clubs in possession of all the facts. ‘We got every piece of information we possibly could to our clubs,’ he said. ‘It was crucial for us to give that information out because, when you’re dealing with a crisis, the only way to cut through the emotion and passion is with fact.
‘That was what we delivered: a package of fact. We’ll reflect on Thursday and if we need to go to a further EGM we will do that.
‘We are faced with a situation that has landed with the SFL. And we’ll do whatever we can in the best interests of the game.’
Meanwhile, SFA chief Regan denied reports that he had told SFL clubs that his organisation would ensure the newco did not get voted back into the SPL.
He said: ‘For the avoidance of doubt, any decision regarding the future status of Rangers FC requires not only the transfer of the SPL share but the transfer of the SFA’s membership.
‘The SFA Board will approve this only when all relevant information has been provided and directors are satisfied the solution presented is in the best interests of Scottish football.’
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Outspoken Raith Rovers chairman Turnbull Hutton last night declared the crisis engulfing Scottish football proves the SPL is ‘dead’.
‘There is going to be a bit of pain (if SFL clubs reject Rangers) but, in essence, the SPL is now like a dead parrot,’

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npjOSLCR2hE
By:
shudacuda
When: 04 Jul 12 10:14
HOLD YOUR NERVE CHAIRMEN AND DO THE RIGHT THING.


Despite threats and lies by the MSM,TCFKASR,Celtic
By:
Platini
When: 04 Jul 12 10:39
"season ticket sales will collapse"   utter p1sh.
By:
shudacuda
When: 04 Jul 12 10:44
The most annoying thing now is Celtic are working hand in hand with them.

Lawlell and Doncaster are a pair of conniving snakes.
By:
TheBetterBettor
When: 04 Jul 12 10:47
‘It’s all gone belly-up, so let’s start again. I’m sure the SFL would welcome applications from some of the team(s) who are currently in the SPL to join an organisation that is based on sporting integrity.



Celtic sucking up to Rangers...I´d never thought Id see the day.


Why don´t they just merge and feck off to the Blue Square.
By:
TheBetterBettor
When: 04 Jul 12 10:48
*merge with Rangers
By:
shudacuda
When: 04 Jul 12 10:52
Who wants to play in a league set up exclusively for the benefit of 2 teams.

They could play the Glasgow Cup-best of 4 games.
By:
charlatan
When: 04 Jul 12 11:01
wouldn't partick be second favourite for that?
By:
charlatan
When: 04 Jul 12 12:35
now partick say NO too. expect to see iain paisley on the telly saying NO to rangers soon.
By:
iamajambo
When: 04 Jul 12 13:38
I've been saying all along that the Huns will be playing in the SPL next seasonCry.We need a market for it on here.
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