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By:
tobermory When: 14 Apr 13 02:39
£3 Bologna@4.5
£2 Inter@2.68
£2 Catania@3.7
£3 Udinese@4.5
£2 Napoli@4
£3 Lazio@4.5
By:
tobermory When: 14 Apr 13 18:00
£5 Barcelona@1.58 v Zaragoza, would make them 1.28 with normal team, can't think what team they could put out that wouldn't be value at these odds
By:
tobermory When: 15 Apr 13 03:02
Home Draw Away
2.36 Mallorca 3.57 Celta Vigo 3.38


£2 Celta Vigo@4.2
By:
stu When: 15 Apr 13 11:26
roughly how are you calculating figures tobes?
By:
stu When: 15 Apr 13 11:27
team ratings I mean
By:
Stringer When: 15 Apr 13 12:52
celta vigo's top scorer is suspended
By:
tobermory When: 16 Apr 13 03:45
never knew that, they could have done with him i guess Sad

Stu, the 100 rating is what i'd class as an average  winner of the premier league over the last 20 years or so . Maybe Barca at their peak 109,  typical relegation candidate about 83. On this thread i have rated a lot of teams i don't know a whole lot about (as with above example of C Vigo) , so the ratings have often been way out ,hence the inaccurate odds and poor results. Though had really appalling luck on this thread that has gone on since last May (injury time goals so one sided quite unbelievable), though not too bothered because of the small stakes ,and now i'd say the ratings/prices are much better.

Match P/L Bet 1 Bet 2 Stake Return Tot.Stk. Tot.Ret. ROI Bank Com.Tot.
268 Real Madrid v Galatasaray £4.00 £2 Lay,Real Madrid@1.19 £2 Galatasaray@22 £4.00 £0.00 £1,263.93 £1,111.72 87.96% £147.79 £31.93
269 Reading v Southampton £4.00 £4 Reading@3.45 £4.00 £0.00 £1,267.93 £1,111.72 87.68% £143.79 £31.93
270 West Brom v Arsenal £2.00 £2 West Brom@4.3 £2.00 £0.00 £1,269.93 £1,111.72 87.54% £141.79 £31.93
271 Liverpool v West Ham £3.24 £2 Lay,Liverpool@1.37 £2 West Ham@10.5 £4.00 £7.24 £1,273.93 £1,118.96 87.84% £145.03 £32.10
272 Chelsea v Sunderland £2.00 £2 Sunderland@12 £2.00 £0.00 £1,275.93 £1,118.96 87.70% £143.03 £32.10
273 Dortmund v Malaga £4.00 £2 Lay,Dortmund@1.43 £2 Malaga@9.2 £4.00 £0.00 £1,279.93 £1,118.96 87.44% £139.03 £32.10
274 Rubin Kazan v Chelsea £2.00 £2 Chelsea@2.80 £2.00 £0.00 £1,281.93 £1,118.96 87.29% £137.03 £32.10
275 FC Basel v Tottenham £4.00 £4 Tottenham@2.98 £4.00 £0.00 £1,285.93 £1,118.96 87.02% £133.03 £32.10
276 Reading v Liverpool £2.15 £2 Lay,Liverpool@1.47 £2 Reading@8 £4.00 £6.15
277 Aston Villa v Fulham £2.00 £2 Fulham@3.55 £2.00 £0.00
278 Southampton v West Ham £0.45 £2 Lay,Southampton@1.81 £2 West Ham@5 £4.00 £4.45
279 Arsenal v Norwich £4.00 £2 Lay,Arsenal@1.30 £2 Norwich@14 £4.00 £0.00 £1,299.93 £1,129.56 86.90% £129.63 £32.23
280 Millwall v Wigan £2.00 £2 Millwall@4.6 £2.00 £0.00 £1,301.93 £1,129.56 86.76% £127.63 £32.23
281 Palermo v Bologna £3.00 £3 Bologna@4.5 £3.00 £0.00 £1,304.93 £1,129.56 86.56% £124.63 £32.23
282 Cagliari v Inter £2.00 £2 Inter@2.68 £2.00 £0.00
283 Parma v Udinese £9.97 £3 Udinese@4.5 £3.00 £12.97
284 Chievo v Catania £2.00 £2 Catania@3.7 £2.00 £0.00 £1,311.93 £1,142.53 87.09% £130.60 £32.76
285 Zaragoza v Barcelona £2.75 £5 Barcelona@1.58 £5.00 £7.75 £1,316.93 £1,150.28 87.35% £133.35 £32.91
286 AC Milan v Napoli  £2.00 £2 Napoli@4 £2.00 £0.00 £1,318.93 £1,150.28 87.21% £131.35 £32.91
287 Lazio v Juventus £3.00 £3 Lazio@4.5 £3.00 £0.00 £1,321.93 £1,150.28 87.02% £128.35 £32.91
288 Mallorca v Celta Vigo £2.00 £2 Celta Vigo@4.2 £2.00 £0.00 £1,323.93 £1,150.28 86.88% £126.35 £32.91
By:
tobermory When: 16 Apr 13 03:51
Home Draw Away
2.00 Arsenal 3.75 Everton 4.29
1.30 Man City 6.4 Wigan 13.4
6.28 West Ham 4.4 Man United 1.63
4.4 Fulham 3.78 Chelsea 1.96
By:
tobermory When: 16 Apr 13 03:55
£2.07 (liabilty) Lay,Arsenal@1.77 & £2 Everton@5.1
£2 Fulham@5
By:
stu When: 16 Apr 13 15:49
Thanks for the reply - been interested in using team ratings for while, since following some of the RFO ratings for teams.
By:
tobermory When: 20 Apr 13 04:32
Team Rating Team Rating
Man United 100.0 Fulham 85.5
Man City 99.5 Sunderland 84.5
Chelsea 96.5 West Ham 84.5
Tottenham 95.5 Wigan 84.5
Liverpool 94.5 Norwich 84.0
Arsenal 94.5 Stoke 84.0
Everton 92.0 Aston Villa 84.0
Swansea 87.0 Southampton 84.0
Newcastle 86.5 QPR 82.5
West Brom 86.5 Reading 81.0


just used page 1 table for QPR/Stoke

Home Draw Away
3.79 Fulham 3.66 Arsenal 2.16
1.96 Norwich 3.78 Reading 4.4
2.52 QPR 3.37 Stoke 3.25
3.38 Sunderland 3.57 Everton 2.36
1.96 Swansea 3.78 Southampton 4.4
2.29 West Brom 3.60 Newcastle 3.50
2.29 West Ham 3.60 Wigan 3.50
2.83 Tottenham 3.40 Man City 2.83
2.57 Liverpool 3.50 Chelsea 3.08
1.29 Man United 6.6 Aston Villa 13.6
By:
tobermory When: 20 Apr 13 04:40
£2 (liabilty) Lay,Arsenal@1.71 & £2 Fulham@5.7
£2 (liabilty) Lay,Norwich@1.77 & £2 Reading@5.7
£2 Stoke@3.7
£3 Swansea@2.46
£3 Chelsea@3.7
By:
tobermory When: 23 Apr 13 03:02
injury time goal sequence ever more amazing with one in the 97th minute now

Match P/L Bet 1 Bet 2 Stake Return Tot.Stk. Tot.Ret. ROI Bank Com.Tot.
279 Arsenal v Norwich £4.00 £2 Lay,Arsenal@1.30 £2 Norwich@14 £4.00 £0.00 £1,299.93 £1,129.56 86.90% £129.63 £32.23
280 Millwall v Wigan £2.00 £2 Millwall@4.6 £2.00 £0.00 £1,301.93 £1,129.56 86.76% £127.63 £32.23
281 Palermo v Bologna £3.00 £3 Bologna@4.5 £3.00 £0.00 £1,304.93 £1,129.56 86.56% £124.63 £32.23
282 Cagliari v Inter £2.00 £2 Inter@2.68 £2.00 £0.00
283 Parma v Udinese £9.97 £3 Udinese@4.5 £3.00 £12.97
284 Chievo v Catania £2.00 £2 Catania@3.7 £2.00 £0.00 £1,311.93 £1,142.53 87.09% £130.60 £32.76
285 Zaragoza v Barcelona £2.75 £5 Barcelona@1.58 £5.00 £7.75 £1,316.93 £1,150.28 87.35% £133.35 £32.91
286 AC Milan v Napoli  £2.00 £2 Napoli@4 £2.00 £0.00 £1,318.93 £1,150.28 87.21% £131.35 £32.91
287 Lazio v Juventus £3.00 £3 Lazio@4.5 £3.00 £0.00 £1,321.93 £1,150.28 87.02% £128.35 £32.91
288 Mallorca v Celta Vigo £2.00 £2 Celta Vigo@4.2 £2.00 £0.00 £1,323.93 £1,150.28 86.88% £126.35 £32.91
289 Arsenal v Everton £0.66 £2.07 Lay,Arsenal@1.77 £2 Everton@5.1 £4.07 £4.73 £1,328.00 £1,155.01 86.97% £127.01 £32.94
290 Fulham v Chelsea £2.00 £2 Fulham@5 £2.00 £0.00 £1,330.00 £1,155.01 86.84% £125.01 £32.94
291 Swansea v Southampton £3.00 £3 Swansea@2.46 £3.00 £0.00
292 Fulham v Arsenal £4.00 £2 Lay,Arsenal@1.71 £2 Fulham@5.7 £4.00 £0.00
293 Norwich v Reading £4.00 £2 Lay,Norwich@1.77 £2 Reading@5.7 £4.00 £0.00
294 QPR v Stoke £5.13 £2 Stoke@3.7 £2.00 £7.13 £1,343.00 £1,162.14 86.53% £119.14 £33.21
295 Liverpool v Chelsea £3.00 £3 Chelsea@3.7 £3.00 £0.00 £1,346.00 £1,162.14 86.34% £116.14 £33.21
By:
tobermory When: 23 Apr 13 03:22
Team Rating Team Rating
Barcelona 107.0 Chelsea 96.5
Real Madrid 104.5 Benfica 94.5
Bayern Munich 104.0 Fenerbache 88.0
Borrussia Dortmund 100.0 Basel 86.5


Home Draw Away
2.70 Bayern Munich 3.45 Barcelona 2.94
2.89 Borrussia Dortmund 3.43 Real Madrid 2.76
4.11 Basel 3.72 Chelsea 2.05
3.17 Fenerbache 3.52 Benfica 2.50
By:
tobermory When: 23 Apr 13 03:29
£3 Barcelona@3.50
£3 Chelsea@2.56
By:
tobermory When: 27 Apr 13 03:09
wow had an injury time winner there

Man United 100.0 Fulham 85.5
Man City 99.5 Sunderland 85.0
Chelsea 96.5 West Ham 85.0
Tottenham 95.5 Wigan 84.5
Liverpool 94.5 Norwich 84.0
Arsenal 94.5 Stoke 84.0
Everton 92.0 Aston Villa 84.0
Swansea 87.0 Southampton 84.0
Newcastle 86.5 QPR 82.5
West Brom 86.5 Reading 81.0


used page 1 table for Stoke and Liverpool rated 92.5 without Suarez

Home Draw Away
1.32 Man City 6.15 West Ham 12.5
1.69 Everton 4.24 Fulham 5.8
2.63 Southampton 3.48 West Brom 3.01
2.32 Stoke 3.48 Norwich 3.52
4.4 Wigan 3.78 Tottenham 1.96
3.08 Newcastle 3.50 Liverpool 2.57
2.50 Reading 3.52 QPR 3.17
1.53 Chelsea 4.8 Swansea 7.24
3.01 Arsenal 3.48 Man United 2.63
2.43 Aston Villa 3.55 Sunderland 3.26
By:
tobermory When: 27 Apr 13 03:18
£2 Draw @6.6,Man City v West Ham(unmatched)
£2 (liabilty) Lay,Everton@1.53 & £2 Fulham@8
£4 West Brom@4.8
£2 (liabilty) Lay,Chelsea@1.38 & £2 Swansea@10.5
£4 Man United@3.4
By:
tobermory When: 27 Apr 13 19:33
Team Rating Team Rating
Juventus 99.0 Sampdoria 85.0
Napoli 95.0 Cagliari 85.0
AC Milan 94.0 Torino 84.5
Inter 92.0 Siena 84.5
Lazio 91.0 Parma 84.5
Fiorentina 92.0 Atalanta 84.5
Roma 91.0 Chievo 84.0
Udinese 89.5 Genoa 82.0
Catania 87.5 Palermo 82.0
Bologna 85.0 Pescara 80.0


Home Draw Away
3.92 Pescara 3.60 Napoli 2.13
2.05 Chievo 3.72 Genoa 4.11
4.11 Palermo 3.72 Inter 2.05
3.17 Parma 3.52 Lazio 2.50
1.69 Roma 4.24 Siena 5.8
3.26 Sampdoria 3.55 Fiorentina 2.43
5.8 Torino 4.24 Juventus 1.69
1.69 AC Milan 4.24 Catania 5.8
By:
tobermory When: 27 Apr 13 19:34
Home Draw Away
6.02 Pescara 4.4 Napoli 1.66
By:
Mr Eboue When: 27 Apr 13 19:36
Good call on the Baggies Tober.

cant believe they were 4.8 Shocked
By:
tobermory When: 27 Apr 13 19:36
£2 (liabilty) Lay,Napoli@1.39 &£2 Pescara@10
By:
tobermory When: 27 Apr 13 19:37
yeah did seem big ther Mr E , Southampton always seem overrated to me but christ knows how many times i've lost opposing them Crazy
By:
tobermory When: 28 Apr 13 00:24
£3 Chievo@2.76
£4 Inter@3.50
£3 Lazio@3.25
£2 (liabilty) Lay, Roma@1.51 & £2 Siena@7.6
£2 Sampdoria@4.3
£2 Torino@6.6
£2 (liabilty) Lay, AC Milan@1.37 & £2 Catania@11.5
By:
tobermory When: 30 Apr 13 02:48
jesus , 10 losers in a row currently Scared

Team Rating Team Rating
Barcelona 106.5 Chelsea 96.5
Real Madrid 104.5 Benfica 94.5
Bayern Munich 104.0 Fenerbache 88.0
Borrussia Dortmund 100.5 Basel 86.5


Home Draw Away
1.88 Real Madrid 3.87 Borrussia Dortmund 4.77
2.00 Barcelona 3.75 Bayern Munich 4.29
1.50 Chelsea 4.90 Basel 7.7
1.69 Benfica 4.24 Fenerbache 5.8


£3(liabilty) Lay,Real Madrid@1.62
£2(liabilty) Lay,Benfica@1.46 & £2 Fenerbache@8.8
By:
tobermory When: 01 May 13 03:33
£2 Draw @4.5(Barca v Bayern)
By:
tobermory When: 04 May 13 17:29
13 losers in a row some sort of record there

Man United 100.0 Fulham 85.0
Man City 99.5 Sunderland 85.0
Chelsea 96.5 West Ham 85.0
Tottenham 95.5 Wigan 84.5
Liverpool 94.5 Aston Villa 84.5
Arsenal 94.5 Stoke 84.0
Everton 92.0 Norwich 84.0
Swansea 86.5 Southampton 84.0
West Brom 86.5 QPR 82.0
Newcastle 86.0 Reading 81.0
Home Draw Away
4.95 QPR 3.93 Arsenal 1.84
2.10 Liverpool 3.69 Everton 3.96
1.92 Man United 3.82 Chelsea 4.86
2.19 Sunderland 3.57 Stoke 3.78


rating Liverpool 93.5 without Suarez, page 1 table for Stoke

£1 (liabilty) ,Lay,  Arsenal@1.40 & £2 QPR @9.6
£3 Man United@2.24
By:
tobermory When: 05 May 13 03:09
£2 Everton@4.7
By:
teo813 When: 05 May 13 03:11
does it work in general, tobermory?
By:
tobermory When: 05 May 13 03:18
what my ratings? No it is a disaster (or would be if i had bet serious money on them last couple of years) . If the ratings were accurate it would work very well.
By:
tobermory When: 08 May 13 19:44
15 consecutive losers , this is epic

rate Chelsea 97 now .

Home Draw Away
2.10 Chelsea 3.69 Tottenham 3.96


£2 Tottenham@4.9

Swansea were 4.9 too and came out at about 3.0 on my ratings but i forget about that match Sad
By:
tobermory When: 11 May 13 14:48
Team Rating Team Rating
Man United 100.0 Fulham 85.0
Man City 99.5 West Ham 85.0
Chelsea 97.0 Sunderland 84.5
Tottenham 95.5 Wigan 84.5
Liverpool 94.5 Aston Villa 84.5
Arsenal 94.5 Stoke 84.0
Everton 92.0 Norwich 84.0
Swansea 86.5 Southampton 84.0
West Brom 86.0 QPR 82.0
Newcastle 86.5 Reading 81.0
By:
tobermory When: 11 May 13 17:03
Draw
1.46 Man City 5.12 Wigan 8.35
By:
tobermory When: 11 May 13 17:03
£2 Wigan@10.5
By:
tobermory When: 12 May 13 02:48
17 consecutive losers in the end Blush


Match P/L Bet 1 Bet 2 Stake Return Tot.Stk. Tot.Ret. ROI Bank Com.Tot.
295 Liverpool v Chelsea £3.00 £3 Chelsea@3.7 £3.00 £0.00 £1,346.00 £1,162.14 86.34% £116.14 £33.21
296 B Munich v Barcelona £3.00 £3 Barcelona@3.5 £3.00 £0.00 £1,349.00 £1,162.14 86.15% £113.14 £33.21
297 Basel v Chelsea £4.45 £3 Chelsea@2.56 £3.00 £7.45 £1,352.00 £1,169.59 86.51% £117.59 £33.44
298 Man City v West Ham £2.00 £2 Draw@6.6 £2.00 £0.00 £1,354.00 £1,169.59 86.38% £115.59 £33.44
299 Everton v Fulham £4.00 £2 Lay,Everton@1.53 £2 Fulham@8 £4.00 £0.00
300 Southampton v West Brom £14.44 £4 West Brom@4.8 £4.00 £18.44 £1,362.00 £1,188.03 87.23% £126.03 £34.20
301 Pescara v Napoli £4.00 £2 Lay,Napoli@1.39 £2 Pescara@10 £4.00 £0.00 £1,366.00 £1,188.03 86.97% £122.03 £34.20
302 Sampdoria v Fiorentina  £2.00 £2 Sampdoria@4.3 £2.00 £0.00
303 Chievo v Genoa £3.00 £3 Chievo@2.76 £3.00 £0.00
304   Roma v Siena £4.00 £2 Lay,Roma@1.51 £2 Siena@7.6 £4.00 £0.00
305   Parma v Lazio £3.00 £3 Lazio@3.25 £3.00 £0.00
306 Palermo v Inter £4.00 £4 Inter @3.5 £4.00 £0.00
307 Torino v Juventus £2.00 £2 Torino@6.6 £2.00 £0.00 £1,384.00 £1,188.03 85.84% £104.03 £34.20
308 Chelsea v Swansea £4.00 £2 Lay,Chelsea@1.38 £2 Swansea@10.5 £4.00 £0.00 £1,388.00 £1,188.03 85.59% £100.03 £34.20
309 Arsenal v Man United £4.00 £4 Man United@3.4 £4.00 £0.00 £1,392.00 £1,188.03 85.35% £96.03 £34.20
310 AC Milan v Catania £4.00 £2 Lay,AC Milan@1.37 £2 Catania@11.5 £4.00 £0.00 £1,396.00 £1,188.03 85.10% £92.03 £34.20
311 Real Madrid v Dortmund £3.00 £3 Lay,Real Madrid@1.62 £3.00 £0.00 £1,399.00 £1,188.03 84.92% £89.03 £34.20
312 Barcelona v Bayern Munich £2.00 £2 Draw@4.5 £2.00 £0.00 £1,401.00 £1,188.03 84.80% £87.03 £34.20
313 Benfica v Fenerbahce £4.00 £2 Lay,Benfica@1.46 £2 Fenerbahce@8.8 £4.00 £0.00 £1,405.00 £1,188.03 84.56% £83.03 £34.20
314 QPR v Arsenal  £3.00 £1 Lay,Arsenal@1.40 £2 QPR@9.6 £3.00 £0.00 £1,408.00 £1,188.03 84.38% £80.03 £34.20
315 Liverpool v Everton £2.00 £2 Everton@4.7 £2.00 £0.00 £1,410.00 £1,188.03 84.26% £78.03 £34.20
316 Man United v Chelsea £3.00 £3 Man United@2.24 £3.00 £0.00 £1,413.00 £1,188.03 84.08% £75.03 £34.20
317 Chelsea v Tottenham £2.00 £2 Tottenham @4.9 £2.00 £0.00 £1,415.00 £1,188.03 83.96% £73.03 £34.20
318 Man City v Wigan  £18.05 £2 Wigan@10.5 £2.00 £20.05 £1,417.00 £1,208.08 85.26% £91.08 £35.15
By:
tobermory When: 12 May 13 03:00
Newcastle meant to be 86.0 , Liverpool 93.5 without Suarez ,Page 1 Table for Stoke

Home Draw Away
4.50 Stoke 3.73 Tottenham 1.95
1.66 Everton 4.4 West Ham 6.02
3.62 Fulham 3.63 Liverpool 2.23
2.57 Norwich 3.50 West Brom 3.08
2.83 QPR 3.40 Newcastle 2.83
2.23 Sunderland 3.63 Southampton 3.62
1.36 Man United 5.75 Swansea 11
By:
tobermory When: 12 May 13 03:04
£2 West Ham@7.6
£2 West Brom@3.55
£2 QPR@3.35
£3 Sunderland@2.84
£2 Swansea@13
By:
tobermory When: 19 May 13 15:53
not making any adjustments for team news 'need to win' etc

Home Draw Away
1.80 Chelsea 4 Everton 5.14
1.44 Liverpool 5.24 QPR 8.71
3.62 Newcastle 3.63 Arsenal 2.23
1.30 Man City 6.4 Norwich 13.4
2.23 Southampton 3.63 Stoke 3.62
2.10 Swansea 3.69 Fulham 3.96
1.46 Tottenham 5.12 Sunderland 8.35
5.8 West Brom 4.24 Man United 1.69
1.80 West Ham 4 Reading 5.14
2.10 Wigan 3.69 Aston Villa 3.96
By:
tobermory When: 19 May 13 16:01
£2 (liabilty) Lay,Liverpool@1.29  & £2 QPR@13.5
£2 (liabilty) Lay,Arsenal@1.56 & £2 Newcastle@6.6
£2 Stoke@5.8
£2 Fulham@5.8
£2 (liabilty) Lay,Tottenham@1.27 & £2 Sunderland@15
£4 Man United@2.1
£2 Reading@6
By:
tobermory When: 25 May 13 18:50
|Team
Rating Team Rating
Bayern Munich 104.5 Borrussia Dortmund 100.5


Draw
2.29 Bayern Munich 3.60 Borrussia Dortmund 3.50


£2 Borrussia Dortmund@4.9
By:
tobermory When: 30 Sep 17 02:39
Yes i guess when their opponents are sub 1.30 , then 7.0 would not be appealing . I just meant Hodgson 0-0s should not be the same odds for a team of similar ability managed by someone else

Though i got 23 for this one
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