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By:
vonDiestelBoy
When: 12 Dec 11 12:33
The WEB won't forget!
http://web.archive.org/web/20080913025330/http://www.expertbettingadvice.co.uk/forum/thread18432-192.html
This are the last selections from Maria in here famous thread. You can also look for the other sites. The Betfair-SP wasn't invented at this time, but everybody can check her bets against the historical data from Betfair.
By:
hejik
When: 12 Dec 11 12:38
The issue with maria was it wasn't a plain laying system, and she wasn't ever laying the BSP.
If she had been laying the BSP she'd have gone seriously bust.

She always seemed to get best available price on every horse pre-race and that's not really a realistic system unless you have solid market knowledge and endless luck.

If you can consistently beat the SP then it doesn't matter what "system" you are using.

I wouldn't take the Maria thread too seriously or try to replicate it.
By:
The-Special-One
When: 12 Dec 11 12:41
as judorick said previously - maria had inside knowledge of horses/races at the time.
By:
LeoOnAHigh
When: 12 Dec 11 12:42
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By:
ShaneESP
When: 12 Dec 11 12:44
it wasn't about the horses TSO it was all about the prices, doesn't matter what knowledge 'she' had it was b0llox.
By:
The-Special-One
When: 12 Dec 11 12:46
so what are you saying shane? She didnt really make 3k to 100k in year or that she had a different strategy? (i have no idea about horses so i am speculating)
By:
The-Special-One
When: 12 Dec 11 12:47
by the way - totally of subject but did anyone ever see this maria girl? she hot?
By:
ShaneESP
When: 12 Dec 11 12:49
I'm sure there is plenty of info around about it on the net still. Horses were always matched at below SP. ALWAYS. But bets with price never posted pre off.

People believe what they want to believe though.
By:
The-Special-One
When: 12 Dec 11 12:50
right, so if she somehow managed to get prices below SP then surely she must have had knowledge that the SP would be drifting??? She cant have been that lucky every bet
By:
ShaneESP
When: 12 Dec 11 12:53
yes, anyway I just saw hejik summed it up pretty good above.
By:
The-Special-One
When: 12 Dec 11 12:55
out of curiosity has she stopped or is she still doing it? It seems after she reached 100k she packed it in, which is strange. I doubt she has packed it in
By:
kenilworth
When: 12 Dec 11 12:59
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[b]20k to 60k in one year is definitely possible. No idea about trading, but it is on betting outright selections.

[/
b] Possible but improbable in my view. Level stakes very difficult, possible with a progressive
staking plan, which would increase the posibility of losing the bank.
By:
The-Special-One
When: 12 Dec 11 13:02
^^^ year? im talking monthly
By:
gethin66
When: 12 Dec 11 13:22
I cant be assed to read all the way back TSO...but how much are we proposing as a starting bank?  60K form what per month?
By:
The-Special-One
When: 12 Dec 11 13:23
you need to read the thread from the start to understand the concept. This is not a tipping thread gremlin66
By:
gethin66
When: 12 Dec 11 13:25
i realise its not a tipping thread mate...  ill read back then...
but if its from 1k...then thats 60/1 your after per month...or 2/1 per day...  should be possible realisticly...  going to read now.
By:
gethin66
When: 12 Dec 11 13:29
just read... a starting bank of 20k...  a piece of piss!!!  its only 3/1 over the whole month...

its like asking...is it possible to make £6 from £2 over a month...   you must be useless if you fail!!

I tried this system for the past 2-3 weeks actually (for fun)...got from £50 to around £380...  so well over what your saying m8...only diff is..would you find the liquidity for 20K...  idk...
By:
The-Special-One
When: 12 Dec 11 13:32
i no it can be done, because i do it. But ile be honest with you, i dont think you have the capability to make any sort of profit let alone triple your bankroll in a month
By:
gethin66
When: 12 Dec 11 13:32
Just added another 0.1 to it as i read and typed...  basically i wait for a goal in what i believe will be a low scoring game...  back UNDER an extra 3 goals to the scoreline...and lay it a few mins later...  full bank on the 'fun bank' trial...
By:
sadsagoon2011
When: 12 Dec 11 13:33
I would not agree, I make the majority of my wins off the outsiders and unlikely comebacks. I think that the only people who win do so because they are both ballsy and lucky!.( or very well informed and on the inside of what ever sport they bet on. The truth, as I see it is that you cannot win consistently month after month but you can have big months and very upsetting months, with the later being the more frequent!
By:
egner
When: 12 Dec 11 13:33
...of course it can be done...figures dont include commission but youll get the idea.!!!

..you have a an initial bank of £20,000...

during the first month ....

....you need to compound the initial £20,000 @ 0.10% for 1,387 markets which will leave you with roughly £80,000.....(£60,000 profit)

Market No.1 you will need to make £20.00.......0.10% of £20,000
Market No.1,387 you will need to make £79.92....0.10 % of £79,921.08

...to complete this you need to back/lay/dutch/trade on average around 46 markets per day over the month.....

(not too difficult when you add up all horse...dogs...tennis...football..markets and the sub markets on those markets!!!)

..and with such a low target per market...0.10% you could use a very gradual recovery system of between 1 and 6 markets.

Month 2 ...the [b]risk diminishes even further...by half actually.[/b]

lets say you reward yourself by taking out 20k...

leaving a £60,000 starting amount.....

....you need to compound the initial £60,000 @ 0.05% for 1,387 markets which will leave you with roughly £120,000.....(£60,000 profit)

Market No.1 you will need to make £30.00.......0.05% of £60,000
Market No.1,387 you will need to make £59.98....0.05 % of £119,961.56

...to complete this you need to back/lay/dutch/trade on average around 46 markets per day over the month.....

and so on and so on....with the risk always diminishing if you can live on 20K a month!!!!!!!!

..dont forget to send me a slice when you have finished...!!!LaughLaughLaughLaughWink
By:
jin_kazz
When: 12 Dec 11 13:33
special one: what sports do you bet? football?

for me football is the less predictable.

tennis, darts, snooker are much more profitable and there are a lot of trading opprtunities.

paradise for trading.
By:
gethin66
When: 12 Dec 11 13:35
I havent insulted you m8...so lay off just for one day...if its possible...   what happened to you 'trning a corner' in a fred a few weeks back...lasted about a day i believe :(
By:
gethin66
When: 12 Dec 11 13:36
@egnar1387 bets....  lmao!!!!!

its way less mate...

i got from 50 to over 300 in just over 100...recalculate m8
By:
jin_kazz
When: 12 Dec 11 13:38
2 egner: on smaller events when you want to back some team\player $20000 you'll have to wait a lot of time.

your system won't work all the time. there are not so many markets where you can back $20000 and lay it in few seconds.

with such sums of money you'll be serious odds mover. and if something goes wrong one time then you'll loose your whole bank..
By:
egner
When: 12 Dec 11 13:39
i suggest you read my post again gethin66.
By:
buzzer
When: 12 Dec 11 13:40
I didn't see where egner posted he was risking the entire bank on each trade
unlike gethin66 who's just playing russian roullette
By:
gethin66
When: 12 Dec 11 13:41
ok eg'... so your actually suggesting using 10% of the bank?  i.e £2000... and then 10% of (£20,000+winnings)?
Sorry in advance if thats what your saying..
By:
kenilworth
When: 12 Dec 11 13:41
I would be surprised if the OP has time to bet at all,
as he is too busy posting on here, 27,000 in 9 months
works out to 100 per day !!
By:
egner
When: 12 Dec 11 13:41
OMFG...
now i wish id never posted because it seems people cannot read a post...

jinkazz....where the hell have i said to full bank...madness

"...to complete this you need to back/lay/dutch/trade on average around 46 markets per day over the month....."

loads of ways to make your target using a tiny fraction of your bank"!!!!!
By:
gethin66
When: 12 Dec 11 13:42
@ken...100 per day between 7 comps m8... so only 14-15 per comp...hmmmm... i guess it can be done LaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh
By:
jin_kazz
When: 12 Dec 11 13:43
sorry lad

my bad
By:
egner
When: 12 Dec 11 13:43
gethin 66...NONONONONO...

i am not suggesting at all what you use of your bank....although the less amount the better of cousre.

i am simply stating the target required over a set of backs ..lays ..trades to highlight that the OP's question  is quite a serious propsition!!!!!
By:
gethin66
When: 12 Dec 11 13:45
fair enough m8... sorry...its early for me...only just got up lol...

roll on 2...  start some betting...
By:
The-Special-One
When: 12 Dec 11 13:45
@jin kazz - only football and tennis for me. Football is the most predictable sport there is. Tennis is a tough one too crack
By:
egner
When: 12 Dec 11 13:46
and just for the maths side gethin66...

starting with £ 50 to get to £300 compounding at 0.10% (as in my above example..)

would take....1,793 markets!!!
By:
egner
When: 12 Dec 11 13:48
no probs jinkazz and gethin66...

early for me tooo!!!

LaughLaughLaughWink
By:
gethin66
When: 12 Dec 11 13:48
my bets are full bank of the 'fun bank' i was attempting...  only need 0.02 each time...  around 130 bets later you get over 300..
By:
The-Special-One
When: 12 Dec 11 13:48
egner = very smart person
By:
egner
When: 12 Dec 11 13:51
fair enough gethin66........
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