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with all the drinking on here "PICKLED onion"
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what are you going to post rugbyleague? a football system?
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I had a football system that I ran for 3 seasons that made a profit every year btw
just bloody time consuming making sure you got all the fixtures, results and worked out your next stakes - was like having a J.O.B |
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One thing I can vouch for, the best advice/strategies I have been given about gambling are from the experienced punters with many years of hard learned lessons
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My maximum bets ever were 500, I lost some and the taste is awful. So, I guess I learnt my lessons.
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im sorry but i dont buy the whole 'systems' thing. It doesnt wash with me. Each match is different, you have to judge each market at the time. ive never tried or needed to try systems, but i just dont believe in them
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me too
one of the best was "dont give it back" I was fortunate enough to hit a golden period and drew some serious wedge, never tempted to put it back in |
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judorick, can you explain briefly how your system would work? just curious.
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If you have so many ways of winning you could give on example of a recent win
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systems may not wash with you mate but there is no doubt there are people making money with them
OLBG is a place where you will find lots of systems bettors and on horses there are lots of system only players on Marias Forum. Admittedly now that the Adrin Massey nratings are no longer available there are fewer |
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what are you going to post rugbyleague? a football system?
I believe the guy did make money on a football system, who said it was like a full time job, your post convince me of the opposite, that you are a fantasist who pretends he will be a millionaire at 30 and he can retire on a better place. Not offending you, it's just an observation, it's pretty easy to tell the difference on here to if someone is talking shat or they now their stuff. I personally know someone who made a lot by predicting market moves on football before K.O, this would also include putting his own early prices up, he did this by understanding people's behaviours, plenty of research and years of experience, he would not always predict it right, but he did far more than when he got it wrong and made quite a lot. I could not do this as I don't have the guys patience and knowledge of football, I am merely pointing out a system to you, seen as you say they don't exist. |
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my system was an elimination method
picking 10 teams at moderate odds (not high or Low), betting them til they will, eliminate when they do win, bet the remainder selecting the teams was the key, stick with them til they win Yaiyam ( a serious punter I know on another forum) does similar with the draw ... in the Norwegian league for some reason |
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excellent news rugbyleaguer. Its a good job you are just a stranger on a forum otherwise you would have hurt my feelings. I dont take it offence, i take it as a compliment. Right - how is predicting market movements pre match a system actually?
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There's a guy in Portugal who earns small forunes every month. He only bets in the spanish and english leagues, 20 games per month. He has mathematical formulas he built himself while in the university studying econometry. He's one in a thousand, a gifted chap, not the next door guy.
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Marias Laying system was the best I ever saw
laying horses that was she gave the selections but never how she got them, but she posted the exact stakes, profits and losses every day for a whole year. Was an amazing thread with hundreds of pages and thousands of posts. She turned £3k into £100k in a year with virtually no risk... was amazing |
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What do you mean how is that a system? What is your definition of a system?
A system is where you make consistant profits without just blindly backing odds. His system was predicting the way a market will go. Another system would or could be working out that the over 2.5 goals is way over priced after 10 minutes amd worth doing long term. That is just an example and not my view. It's just something that works to make a long term profit. |
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My system for football exploits the mistake/error in betfair I discovered after three years of watching the markets on the in-play coupons. Unfortunately I will never tell what that error is as it works a treat most days. One day it will end though and when it does I will move on.
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sorry Rugby just to point out that a "system" as such is a way of betting that is devoid of input in terms of judgment or assessment
in horse racing it might be to lay every horse that carries more than 11 stone in weight over 3 miles on soft ground or something like that. ie there is no input from the bettor, just a set of rules anything else is a "method" which is different |
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a system for me is something that can be universal and anyone can use it without having knowledge of an event. I.e all these roulette systems, and black systems that are about. Someone can not have a system if it does not allow anyone to use it?????
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I have come to the conclusion I will never win here
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@judorick - that is correct.
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I actually made a fortune on football with no risk, the guy who runs my local bookmaker is a multi millionaire and loved large bets of £1,000 plus, he did not care as he was minted and wanted the big bets that he thought would make him richer as he had the edge.
The trouble was he did not realise that the racing post that he let you have the best price from, never updated their prices and the price on Thursday was still in the racing post on a Saturday morning, even though a price may have been backed in from 3/1 to 2/1. For 2 glorious years I arbed on here with him and made a fortune until he lost £50,000 in a month as me and 2 others were doing it and now max bet is £100. I made my money, but those days were blooody good |
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30 years of punting and rugbyleage player is having trouble figuring out what a system is. All these years, his friend was trading pre match market movements and he thought he had invented a 'system'! Its no wonder you have punting 30 years. There is zero chance you have made any money in 30 years
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I, myself, get stressed when I have more than 50€ exposed... So I will never get rich with this. In the last 3 months started with 50€, reached 650€, came down to 150€, now I'm back to 300€. Everytime I reach a high value, I come downhill... hahah. It's the greed, the greed.
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who was Maria?
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Rugbyleaguer
Date Joined: 30 Jul 08 Add contact | Send message 12 Dec 11 00:35 Joined: 30 Jul 08 | Topic/replies: 2,008 | Blogger: Rugbyleaguer's blog I actually made a fortune on football with no risk, the guy who runs my local bookmaker is a multi millionaire and loved large bets of £1,000 plus, he did not care as he was minted and wanted the big bets that he thought would make him richer as he had the edge. The trouble was he did not realise that the racing post that he let you have the best price from, never updated their prices and the price on Thursday was still in the racing post on a Saturday morning, even though a price may have been backed in from 3/1 to 2/1. For 2 glorious years I arbed on here with him and made a fortune until he lost £50,000 in a month as me and 2 others were doing it and now max bet is £100. I made my money, but those days were blooody good Nicely done mate, respect |
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It's like I forget my rules when the accounts goe up. :\
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Someone can not have a system if it does not allow anyone to use it?????
So now you have moved from there are none, to they are none if we all can't use them? Again you need to put in the hard work or truly understand a sport to create a system, being a gambler for many years helps also, as it helps you to truly understand odds and edge. Nothing comes easy as I first told you, no one is ever going to share a winning system with you, so look at markets, try and see a gap, a mistake, test is for a few weeks with small stakes. Just don't expect some universal systems, ffs , that would last a day as everyone would be doing it, you have to use your own brains and knowledge to figure one out. |
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TSO i ve already told you that many time you break my nerves with your arrogance and your "i know everything" behaviour. Maybe you re too impulsive, i dont know.If we take that away i think you know what you re talkin about and that you re smart enough.
I'd say that if you can on average make 2% of your bankroll a day ( doubling every 2 months/ 50 days bt lets say 2 months), you re the boss. I think it s possible. With DISCIPLINE of course. Better to double every two months than triple for two three months and then tilt and lose everything |
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Cheers Ice, it was more his brainless outlook that made it possible, every week I thought he would figure out what we were doing, but he kept taking them. He still does not know what we were doing, just that he was losing money with us long term, that is the only reason he limited our stakes.
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nope, i said i didnt believe in systems. I believe you cant have systems in football (otherw sports im not sure because i dont have enough knowledge). However, the fact that you dont even no what a system is, is just embarassing. 30 years o of punting and you thought your friend trading pre match markets was a system. i pray you have a job as a cabbie or something on the side
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Greenknight
Date Joined: 07 Oct 11 Add contact | Send message 12 Dec 11 00:37 Joined: 07 Oct 11 | Topic/replies: 205 | Blogger: Greenknight's blog It's like I forget my rules when the accounts goe up. :\ Its a classic mistake...when the bank gets bigger so do your stakes. Keep playing level stakes and let your bank grow. Staking £100 on a £1000 bank is 10% but £500 on a £10000 bank is only 5%. Get the bank sorted first then bump up the stakes |
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Maria is an incredibly clever and successful woman from Latvia who has made a fortune by betting small edges in horse race systems with sophisticated staking... her whole family are financial wizards
google: Marias Racing and Betting Forum as she now runs a forum |
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http://www.mariasracingforum.com/
this is the link there are people on here quietly grinding away betting their systems and making nice money |
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There is no way you will catch me on here after 5 years let alone 30 years. One way or another, whether ive made loads of money or lost loads of money i wont be here after 5 years
Don't get the thinking behind this...if you were consistently making big money for each of those 5 years, why give up something that is working very well for you? |
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thanks judo
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did people get rich on here following maria's thread selections?
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30 years of punting and rugbyleage player is having trouble figuring out what a system is. All these years, his friend was trading pre match market movements and he thought he had invented a 'system'! Its no wonder you have punting 30 years. There is zero chance you have made any money in 30 years
TSO you really are a clown, you have no idea what a system is, you have no clue about gambling full stop, it's clear, you just seem to want to try and bluff and argument, you are bluffing the wrong person. Also why does me gambling 30 years trouble you so much? Firstly I enjoy it, secondly it gives me a nice second income, sorry for not giving it up. You don't know me so stop presuming I am like you, I am not. 99% of people on here call you a clown, you come across as one, but I am trying to give you the benefit of the doubt. If you would rather have a childish spat with someone then go ahead, cos your starting to wear very thin now. |
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it might be Lithuania
and she is really hot! |
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Rugbyleaguer
12 Dec 11 00:47 Joined: 30 Jul 08 | Topic/replies: 2,011 | Blogger: Rugbyleaguer's blog 30 years of punting and rugbyleage player is having trouble figuring out what a system is. All these years, his friend was trading pre match market movements and he thought he had invented a 'system'! Its no wonder you have punting 30 years. There is zero chance you have made any money in 30 years TSO you really are a clown, you have no idea what a system is, you have no clue about gambling full stop, it's clear, you just seem to want to try and bluff and argument, you are bluffing the wrong person. Also why does me gambling 30 years trouble you so much? Firstly I enjoy it, secondly it gives me a nice second income, sorry for not giving it up. You don't know me so stop presuming I am like you, I am not. 99% of people on here call you a clown, you come across as one, but I am trying to give you the benefit of the doubt. If you would rather have a childish spat with someone then go ahead, cos your starting to wear very thin now. Part in bold that is why he creates these type of threads he knows what reactions will come his way and he seems to strangely enjoy them. |