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Nocerina v Modena
No goal in the first 10'. First goal @ 19' Win! Mgladbach v Leverkusen I expect no goals in the first 10'. First goal @ 20' Win! B Munich v H Berlin I expect one goal in the first 30'. First goal @ 5' Win! Cardiff v Ipswich I don't expect a goal in the first 10'. First goal @ 19' Win! Real Madrid v Betis Expecting one goal in the first 30'. First goal @ 46' Loss |
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Xanthi v Panathinaikos
Xanthi started getting into shape but because of the National team games the league has been interrupted. Today the team is against a weak opponent. Panathinaikos is going to Xanthi with many good players missing, and has not managed to play a game with the good players for 30 days. I expect no goals in the first 10'. Norrkoping v Elfsborg Norrkoping has to do the best for a win, to stay in the group. Elfsborg is in the same position because without a win, the team's participation in Europa League is in danger. I'm expecting many goals and of course the first in the first 30' of the match. Rosenborg v Aalesunds Rosenborg is in a good shape, and the team plays aggressively to manage to cover to points diference to be the top team of the League. Aalesunds is not interested in the League matches, because they are looking for the Cup Final. The match will be an easy win for Rosenborg and I expect a goal in the first 30'. Sevilla v Gijon Sevilla has to win, to stay in the top teams of the League. This match is "a piece of cake" for the team, because Gijon is in a bad shape. Gijon has only one point in the League, so I expect a goal in the first 30'. |
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Xanthi v Panathinaikos
I expect no goals in the first 10'. First goal @ 21' Win! Norrkoping v Elfsborg First goal in the first 30' of the match. First goal @ 32' Loss Rosenborg v Aalesunds I expect a goal in the first 30'. First goal @ 4' Win! Sevilla v Gijon I expect a goal in the first 30'. First goal @ 15' Win! |
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WIN OR LOSE you're just guessing
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4/5 then 3/4 is a pretty decent strike rate if you ask me, great "guessing" ntinosbetf. By the way Norrkoping over 2.5 came in morrow and his bet was 2 minutes off, so his prediction was right but unfortunately goal came slightly late.
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Thanks for your opinions. Doing statistics on paper and sharing some picks with you. Trying to build a system of picking and choosing back or lay bets for the first 30 minutes. Chose to lay only the forst ten minutes when I expect under 2.5 goals and back the first 30' when expecting over 2.5 goals.
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Marseille v Arsenal
Both teams are not very good in their Leagues, but they are in the firsts of their groups. With a draw, tey'll be satisfied. I don't expect a goal in the first 10'. Barcelona v Plzen Barcelona needs to win to become first in the group. I beleive that Mesi and his folks will have a party against the last team of the group. Expecting a goal in the first 30'. Olympiakos v Dortmund Both teams will fight for the third position, that leads to Europa League. They need points so the match play will be aggressive. I expect goals, especially a goal in the first 30'. Porto v APOEL Apoel is a pleasant surprise in this Champions League. I expect Porto to have a hard time to win. No goal in the first 10'. Chelsea v Genk Chelsea will try to be the winner from the first half. The last team of the group Genk, may try to be defensive, but I don't expect any chances to avoid a goal from Chelsea. Expecting a goal in the first 30'. |
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Marseille v Arsenal
I don't expect a goal in the first 10'. No goal in the first half, Win! Barcelona v Plzen Expecting a goal in the first 30'. First goal @ 10' Win! Olympiakos v Dortmund I expect goals, especially a goal in the first 30'. First goal @ 8' Win! Porto v APOEL No goal in the first 10'. First goal @ 13' Win! Chelsea v Genk Expecting a goal in the first 30'. First goal @ 8' Win! |
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AEK Larnaca v Schalke
AEK has perforned better than expected, so I don't expect that the team will give up against Schalke, which usually is an aggressive player. I think that AEK will play a defensive match, and perform counter-strikes. It would be hard for Schalke to break AEK's defence. I expect no goals in the first 10'. FC Zurich v Lazio Both teams are aggressive. Because they are in the last positions of the group, they will try for a win. Expecting many goals, the first goal will be scored in the first 30' of the match. PAOK v Shamrock Rovers PAOK is a tough and strong team when playing at home, but in the current match many goos players are missing. Shamrock's performance is not very good, so I expect that it will not give the chance to PAOK to score a goal in the first 10'. Maccabi Haifa v Steaua Bucharest Maccabi with 3 points and Steaua with 2 points expect Schalke to fail (4 points), so one of them becomes first in the group. Waiting for a defensive play of both, so no goal in the first 10'. |
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Good luck to you, all bets are guessing so everyone does it, just makes the difference if you get them right and your doing well getting most of them right. I was doing bets after 30mins other day till end of the game but this first 30mins bets sounds good may have to do one myself, what sort of money you putting down on these bets?
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I started with a small bank 200 Euros, and I follow the Maria's Laying System for a bet for 1% of the
bank. I bet 2 euros to lay the first 10' when I expect no goals in the first 10'. When expecting goals I back 2 euros for each of the first goal bets (0-10, 11-20, 21-30). Usually odds are around 5 (in 0-10, 11-20) so when I win, I earn 8 euros minus 4 that I lose in the other back bets leaves me with a profit of 4 Euros. In case the first goal is scored after 20' (21-30), the odds are higher 7-8 so I have a profit of 12 Euros minus 4 lost of the other two back bets that makes a profit of 8 Euros. |
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Oh rite im with you, just reading up now not really tried systems out myself just do my own thing but going good for you at the moment, hows your bank going now whats your plan to keep going to a target you have or pull out some and continue this system?
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I don't pay very much attention to the bank amount, because, I'm exploiting this betting system. I have not used it enough to see how is it going. I found out that first goal bets, have not been exploited enough, so I pay attention to collect statistics and trim the system. Time may show that I should consider backing only 0-10 and 11-20, as time showed me that I shouldn't lay all 30 minutes when not expecting a goal. A friend of mine also noted that when waiting for no goal, time is on your side, as the delays, injuries, corners and other delays, are added to the end of each half. So when not waiting for a goal, time is in favor of you. When waiting for a goal, time is against you, becuase you need action to take place for a goal to be scored. In the long run, I might decide to lay the first ten minutes only. For the bank amount I have a small profit up to now, 22.65 Euros, not important anyway.
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ntinos that is the same reason it makes sense to trade unders as you need 2 goals before half time to make your bet be in a losing position whereas everything is against you on overs...I am enjoying this thread and have favourited it, keep up the good work.
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loadedgimp,
You are right. One small detail. When trading overs and unders, the delays are added after half-time and full time, so there is a small difference, because the referee, doesn't calculate the delays exactly. Only with first goal trading and times up 40 minutes you have a chance to "get rid of" the extra minutes, the referee adds after the 45' or 90'. |
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AEK Larnaca v Schalke
I expect no goals in the first 10'. No goal until 14' Win! FC Zurich v Lazio Goal in the first 30' of the match. First goal @ 22' Win! PAOK v Shamrock Rovers No goal in the first 10'. First goal @ 12' Win! Maccabi Haifa v Steaua Bucharest No goal in the first 10'. First goal @ 10' Lose! |
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HJK Helsinki v MyPa
For Helsinki after the two wins, the next threee matches of the Veikkausliga, are a "piece of cake". I expect that basic players won't participate in this match. MyPa is sure about remaining in the Veikkausliga, so the match is not interesting for the team. Expecting no goal in the first 10 minutes. Eskisehirspor v Manisaspor Both teams do not have a good performance. None of them is looking for high positions, will fight for a better position. I don't expect many goals, so no goal in the first 10 minutes. Sampdoria v Cittadella Sampdoria had a first win after three matches. the team is facing Cittadella with three players missing. Citadella after a win against Grosseto might choose an aggressive play. If aggressive play is chosen, the team will lose from Sampdoria. I expect a defensive play for the team, so no goal in the first 10 minutes. Luzern v Neuchatel Xamax Luzern is still in the first place, but after the bad performanve in the previous match, the team is looking for a win against Xamax, to increase the distance from the following teams. Xamax has finincial problems and the players were on a strike on Thursday, so they are not prepered for the match. Expecting a goal in the first 30 minutes. |
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VPS v Honka
VPS will remain in the group if it manages to have a draw in the 5 next matches. I expect a defensivw play against Honka. Honka needs a win to stay in the third position, for participation in Europa League. I expect no goals in the first half, especially in the first 10 minutes. |
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VPS v Honka
VPS will remain in the group if it manages to have a draw in the 5 next matches. I expect a defensivw play against Honka. Honka needs a win to stay in the third position, for participation in Europa League. I expect no goals in the first half, especially in the first 10 minutes. |
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VPS v Honka
No goals in the first 10 minutes. No goal until half time, Win! HJK Helsinki v MyPa Expecting no goal in the first 10 minutes. First goal @ 5' Lose! Eskisehirspor v Manisaspor No goal in the first 10 minutes. No goal until 27' Win! Sampdoria v Cittadella No goal in the first 10 minutes. No goal until half time, Win! Luzern v Neuchatel Xamax Expecting a goal in the first 30 minutes. First goal @ 41' Lose! |
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Manchester United v Manchester City
Both teams are in a very good shape, I'm expecting a match with many goals. A goal in the first 30'. Fullham v Everton Both teams are not very good in Premiere League. Everton is not very good when away. I don't expect a goal in the first 10'. Az Alkmaar v Roda JC Both teams had scored many goals in eight of nine matches (over 2.5 goals). Expecting meny goals in this match. Waiting for a goal in the first 30'. Inter v Chievo This year is not very good in the Italian Serie A. Only in european games the team has a good performance. The team will try to ensure remaining in the group, and if a goal comes up it'll be good. No goal in the first 10'. Brann v Sarpsborg Brann has to win Sarpsborg in has plans to participate in Europa League. Sarpsborg is last scoring only thre goals in the last twelve matches. Brann will face an easy opponent. Waiting for a goal in the first 30'. |
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Manchester United v Manchester City
A goal in the first 30'. First goal @ 22 Win! Fullham v Everton I don't expect a goal in the first 10'. First goal @ 3' Lose Az Alkmaar v Roda JC Waiting for a goal in the first 30'. First goal @ 51' Lose Inter v Chievo No goal in the first 10'. First goal @ 34' Win! Brann v Sarpsborg Waiting for a goal in the first 30'. First goal @ 4' Win! |
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FC Copenhagen v FC Nordsj
Copenhagen is tired because the team participated in three matches in one week. Nordsj is good at home but not very good when away. I don't expect a goal in the first 10'. Mersin Idman Yurdu v Besiktas Mersin is a new team in the group, have lost from Fener, but has a good performance at home. The team is trying to stay in the group. Besiktas has good players, but they are a from different team, and haven't managed to "settle" in the team and play well with the other players. The team has a match for Europa League and I expect that it will not be in a good shape. Expecting no goals in the first 10'. Sp Lisbon v Gil Vicente Lisbon had a bad start but as time passes the team has better results. Gil has three wins in the last three matches, likes a draw result, but Lisbon os not an easy opponent. Expecting a agoal in the first 30'. |
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Good work ntinos, very unlucky with the Fulham match yesterday, I don't think anyone was expecting that.
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Thanks. things are better for the last picks. All Win!
FC Copenhagen v FC Nordsj I don't expect a goal in the first 10'. No goal until 12', Win! Mersin Idman Yurdu v Besiktas Expecting no goals in the first 10'. No goal until 12', Win! Sp Lisbon v Gil Vicente Expecting a goal in the first 30'. First goal @ 7', Win! |
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Dortmund v Dynamo Dresden
Dortmund will be without basic players in this match, but that will not be a problem against Dynamo. I expect many goals, and of course one in the first 30'. Wycombe v Charlton Wycombe has only one win in the last five games. The team wil be aggressive because it's in the last positions and will try to remain in the group. Charlton is first, so a win is needed to remain first. Waiting for a goal in the first 30'. Brentford v Stevenage Brentford is doing it's best in every match, but in the last four there is no win. Stevenage has shown in the previous match, that if the other team chooses a defense play, it'll be hard to score. No goal in the first 10'. Aldershot v Man Utd Aldershot is looking for a good play, to increase income from tickets. Manchester United, after the 6-1 from Manchester city, will try to change it's image by defeating Aldershot. Waiting for a goal in the first 30'. |
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Dortmund v Dynamo Dresden
Οne goal in the first 30′. First goal @ 30', Win! Wycombe v Charlton Waiting for a goal in the first 30′. First goal @ 6', Win! Brentford v Stevenage No goal in the first 10′. No goal in first half, Win! Aldershot v Man Utd Waiting for a goal in the first 30′. First goal @ 15' Win! |
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Dijon v Paris St-G
Both teams had a match before three days and Paris was the winner with 2-0. I expect Dijon will fight for a win having the advantage playing home. I think that both teams are tired, so I don't expect a goal in the first 10'. Orduspor v Bursaspor Orduspor is a surpise this period in the league, have 4 wins and 2 draws in the last 6 matches. Bursaspor needs a win but it's not in a good shape, because in the last five matches the team lost 3 times and had one draw. I expect no goal in the first 10'. Honka v Jaro Honka needs two wins in the last two games to participate in Europa League, so I expect an aggressive play against Jaro. Jaro has managed to ensure that it'll remain in the group, so the match has nothing interesting for the team. I expext that Honka will try to score from the first half. Expecting a goal in the first 30'. Karlsruhe v Schalke Karlsruhe is in the last positions of it's group have nine matches without a win. For Schalke it'll be a "piece of cake" to score in this match. Expecting a goal in the first 30'. Rot-Weiss Essen v H Berlin Essen is in the last positions of the group, having the worst defense in the group. The team is interested in the cup, only for financial reasons. H Berlin is in a good shape so I expect easy scoring with a goal in the first 30 minutes. Rosenborg v Fredrikstad Both teams need a win for different reasons. Rosenborg is looking at participation in the Europa League, and Fredrikstad will fight to avoid dropping to a lower group. Expecting many goals, especially one in the first 30'. Real Madrid v Villarreal Real, has 6 over (2.5 goals) in 10 matches, so it'll pass like a train over a dead body. Villarreal has 2 wins in 12 matches. Expecting a goal in the first 30 minutes. |
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Where do you put these on ?
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first goal odds. Laying the first 10 minutes (no goal), Backing (0-10,11-20,21-30).
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Ahh i see, cheers. Good luck
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Sivasspor v Mersin Idman Yurdu
Sivasspor after 2 wins and 2 draws had a bad time after the 6 goals in the last match. If the team wants to remain in the group has to win teams like Mersin. I expect no goal in the first 10'. |
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FC Nordsj v FC Midtjylland
Nordsj has only one loss in the last 6 matches and the team is looking for higher ranking to have the chance to participate in Europe matches. Some players will not participate in this match because of last match. Midtjylland needs to win but the teams has not a good performance when away. Expecting no goal in the first 10'. Angelholms v Syrianska FC Angelholms is trying to particapte in Syrianksa's group. Both teams will be very careful, so I don't expect many goals. I expect no goal in the first 10'. Espanyol v Betis Espanyol has 2 away wins and when at home has lost only from Real. Betis has 4 losses after 4 wins. Today, the team will try to score a goal but no goal in the first 10'. |
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Dijon v Paris St-G
I don’t expect a goal in the first 10′. First goal @ 16' Win! Orduspor v Bursaspor I expect no goal in the first 10′. First goal @ 44' Win! Honka v Jaro Expecting a goal in the first 30′. First goal @ 47' Loss Karlsruhe v Schalke Expecting a goal in the first 30′. No goal at half time Loss Rot-Weiss Essen v H Berlin I expect a goal in the first 30 minutes. No goal at half time Loss Rosenborg v Fredrikstad Expecting a goal in the first 30′. First goal @ 15' Win! Real Madrid v Villarreal Expecting a goal in the first 30 minutes. First goal @6 Win! |
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Sivasspor v Mersin Idman Yurdu
I expect no goal in the first 10′. First goal @ 21' Win! FC Nordsj v FC Midtjylland Expecting no goal in the first 10′. First goal @ 27' Win! Angelholms v Syrianska FC I expect no goal in the first 10′. No goal @ half-time Win! Espanyol v Betis No goal in the first 10′. No goal @ half-time Win! |
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H Rostock v Cottbus
Rostock is very good when playing at home, having only one loss, in the six matches in Rostok. Cottbus has no win when playing at Rostock home. In the seven last league matches the team has only one win. No goal in the first 10'. Clermont v ESTAC Troyes Clermont which is second in ranking, has no loss in the last three matches. The team is looking for a win. Troyes is a team with good performance and a tight defense, so it's difficult for the opponent to score a goal. No goal in the first 10'. Tours v Laval Both teams are not very good. They usually don't score many goals. Tours has only one win in the last seven matches. Laval in the last three games has managed to score in only one. I don't expect many goals, especially one in the first 10'. |
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Ajaccio v Bordeaux
I expect no goal in the first 10' Evian TF Auxerre I expect no goal in the first 10' |
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Ajaccio v Bordeaux
I expect no goal in the first 10'. First goal @ 25' Win! Evian TF Auxerre I expect no goal in the first 10'. First goal @ 15' Win! |
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Inter v Juventus
Expecting no goal in the first 10'. |
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Inter v Juventus
Expecting no goal in the first 10'. First goal @ 12' Win! |