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Arsenal v Olympiakos
Arsenal is one of the best teams of England, so Olympiakos is underestimated. There are voices saying that Arsenal will not bring all top players to the field. The coach of Olympiakos, and many players that participate in the team are from the Spanish Primiera Division. Their contracts expire next summer, they do their best for a good play so, they can find a new team in Spain (with better earnings) for the next period. Trading out for at 30 minutes
if score is still 0-0, or a first goal from Olympiakos.
Laying Arsenal for half time, odds 2.16 stake 20 liability 23.20
Shakhtar v Apoel
Shakhtar is the best team of Ukraine for the last years, the team is experienced in the Champions League. Two back players are missing, and it underestimates the opponent, will have a problem for the rest of the Champions League. Apoel is living in a dream. The team was underestimated from Zenith and payed the price. In the group all the other teams are strong, so Apoel will make their best. Trading out for at 30 minutes if score is still 0-0, or a first goal from Apoel.
Laying Shakhtar for half time, odds 2.16 stake 20 liability 23.20
Arsenal is one of the best teams of England, so Olympiakos is underestimated. There are voices saying that Arsenal will not bring all top players to the field. The coach of Olympiakos, and many players that participate in the team are from the Spanish Primiera Division. Their contracts expire next summer, they do their best for a good play so, they can find a new team in Spain (with better earnings) for the next period. Trading out for at 30 minutes
if score is still 0-0, or a first goal from Olympiakos.
Laying Arsenal for half time, odds 2.16 stake 20 liability 23.20
Shakhtar v Apoel
Shakhtar is the best team of Ukraine for the last years, the team is experienced in the Champions League. Two back players are missing, and it underestimates the opponent, will have a problem for the rest of the Champions League. Apoel is living in a dream. The team was underestimated from Zenith and payed the price. In the group all the other teams are strong, so Apoel will make their best. Trading out for at 30 minutes if score is still 0-0, or a first goal from Apoel.
Laying Shakhtar for half time, odds 2.16 stake 20 liability 23.20
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traded out shakhtar odds 3.6 stake 13 profit 33.80
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Laying Current score Arsenal v Olympiakos odds 5.1 stake 24 liability 98.40
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Hoffenheim v B Munich
If Hoffenheim doesn't manage to score a goal in the first minutes, so the game is dificult for the team. The players give their best to score a goal early. Bayern, this year, is a team with power, and cannot be stopped easily. A goal can be scored at will. In this game I think that we'll see lot of goals, and the party will start from the first minutes. Man Utd v Norwich Manchester United is a very good team for this period. Sometimes the opponent is underestimated like Basel with a draw at 3-3. Norwich, although new in the group. will go to the field with high morality. There are three back players missing, so many goals can be scored. I expect many goals in the first half. Admira Wacker v Rapid Vienna The newcomer Admira, has made Austria become crazy. In eight subsequent games, there is no game lost. The team manages to score at the first half. Rapid, is an aggressive team, so many goals will be scored in the first half. half. Nancy v Evian TG Nancy is last in the group, and has three draws and a loss lately. The team haven't managed to win, and it's not expected to do it, in this game. Evian haven't managed to win six games, has many players punished, so I expect they will try to keep a 0-0 draw. I don't think that anything can be done, so I don't expect goals in the half time frame. Blackpool v Bristol City Blackpool, this period, has problems in scoring in the first half. In twenty games, the goals of the team were scored in the second half. Bristol City is in the last positions, and recieved eight goals in the second half. The team has two back players missing so, they'll try to keep a 0-0 draw. I don't expect any goals in the first half. |
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Todays results:
Hoffenheim v B Munich 0-0 loss Man Utd v Norwich no goal in first 30 minutes loss Admira Wacker v Rapid Vienna no goal in first 30 minutes loss Blackpool v Bristol City first goal at 37' win! Nancy v Evian TG no goal until 31' win! |
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Munich v Dynamo Dresden
Munich is a very strong team and I expect it to play good today. Waiting for a goal in the first half. Bolton v Chelsea I think that this will be a vert exciting game. Waiting for a goal to be scored in the first half. Groninigen v Ajax Ajax is a team that usually scores goals. I excpect many goals in this game, and of course one in the first half. Paris ST-G v Lyon The two teams are strong and have good defense. I don't expect many goals, so I think that in the first half there will be no goals, or at least, there'll be a goal after 30 minutes. |
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Munich v Dynamo Dresden
Betting for a goal in the first 30 minutes, first goal at 13' Win! Bolton v Chelsea Betting for a goal in the first 30 minutes, first goal at 2' Win! Groninigen v Ajax Betting for a goal in the first 30 minutes, no goal until 31' Loss Paris ST-G v Lyon Laying first goal until 30', no goal until 31' Win! |
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Gillingham v Barnet
Gillingham does not show that, it's a solid team. The players do as they wish. Barnet has problems in defense, and the coach is in danger. I expect that goals will be scored in the first minutes of the game. Exeter v Swindon Both teams are not very good. Exeter has only one win in seven games. Swindon is in a similar position. I don't expect goals in the first half. Wycombe v Cheltenham I expect Cheltenham to start strong in this game and a goal has chances to be scored in the first half. Wycombe's players do as they wish. Bournemouth v Yeovil I don't see something interesting in this game. I expect no goals in the first half, although we may see something unexpected. Vicenza v Varese The first team seems like it's in vacation. Varese haven't scored in the last six games. The team has changed coach, but I don't see something changing. Expecting no goals in the first half. |
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IS THIS WHAT LOSERVILLE LOOKS LIKE?
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Maybe.
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Gillingham v Barnet
Expecting goal in the first' (scored @ 5') Win! Exeter v Swindon No goal for the first 30'(scored at 18') Loss Wycombe v Cheltenham Expecting goal in the first 30' (scored at 37') Loss Bournemouth v Yeovil No goals for the first 30' (scored at 16') Loss Vicenza v Varese Expecting no goals for the first 30' (half time ended 0-0) Win! |
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Greece U21 v San Marino U21
San Marino is a weak team in it's group so, for the Greek team, it will be a "piece of cake", to score goals. I expect goals in the first half. Sweden U21 v Slovenia U21 For me, both teams have similar power. In the field, each will be afraid of the other, so I expect a defensive play. Probably there will be no goal in the first half. Germany U21 v Bosnia U21 Germany cannot be stopped easily, so they are heading for a clear win. Waiting for a goal in the first half Croatia U21 v Spain U21 Croatia has not showed a good performance in the two games the team has played. Many players, have left the team for the national team of the country. Spain has a good performance and they are favorite for the group. Expecting goals in the first half. Iceland U21 v England U21 Iceland has received 2 goals from Norway. It will be very easy for England to score. Expecting a goal in the first half. |
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No offence mate but your not very good at this so i'd give it up
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No problem. I'm sharing my bets, so someone can take and improvise for himself.
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Greece U21 v San Marino U21
Expecting goals in the first 30', (first goal @ 24'), Win! Sweden U21 v Slovenia U21 Predicted no goal for first 30', (first goal @ 16'), Loss Germany U21 v Bosnia U21 Expected a goal in the first 30', (first goal @ 20'), Win! Croatia U21 v Spain U21 Expected a goal in the first 30', (first goal @ 17'), Win! Iceland U21 v England U21 Expected a goal in the first 30', (first goal @ 12'), Win! |
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Moldova U21 v Russia U21
Moldova has 2 losses in the first 2 games, the team has a basic defender missing, and I don't expect something in this match. Russia on the first game against Poland has showed a good shape, so I'm expecting an easy win, and goals scored in the first 30 minutes. France U21 v Kazakhstan U21 France is the favorite, there are very good players in the team, there was no problem with Latvia, so the win against Kazakhstan, will be "a piece of cake". Expecting a goal in the first 30'. Malta U21 v Ukraine U21 Malta is doing it's best on all the games played, although there is only one win with two following losses. Ukraine is not very good, so I expect that there will be no goal in the first 30'. Latvia v Malta Malta is a loser, the team has players missing, I don't expect anything from the team. Latvia is seeking a win because it's the home team and will have many chances to score a goal from the first 30'. Belgium v Kazakhstan Kazakhstan has shown a ver bad shape, because in eight games the seven were lost. The team is in the last positions and I don't expect something to be changed. For Belgium the win most probable after the draw (1-1) with Azerbaijan. Kazakhstan is looking for a win, so I expect goals in the first 30'. |
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Good afternoon, why don't you put some odds up with your bets pal. More people would be interested
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This is something I try for the first time. There are many choices for someone who follows this thread. Someone may back or lay, only 10 minutes or 20 or 30 minutes. I want to let the people free to improvise. If I put odds, then I'm narrowing the perspective. That's why I'm not putting some odds up to now. Anyway, I'm trimming this system, and next week, I'll change the way I bet and when I expect
no goals, I'll be laying only the first ten minutes. When backing, I'll be backing 0-10,11-20 and 21-30 (three bets). It would be very interesting for me to have feedback and ideas, to improvise this kind of betting. When I'm satisfied from the search, and finilize how to bet, then I'll start posting odds. |
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No one will give you feedback because what exactly are we giving you feedback on?
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should be 1-2 what a miss
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harder to miss than score
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First of all, I have to find a way to choose games that I can have more than 50% win. In the first bets, things were not very good. As time progresses, picking shows to be better.
The concept is simple there are three bets of first goal to examine: Back 0-10, 11-20, 21-30 and the corresponding lays. When waiting for goals I can back all the three bets, when waiting for no goals, first, I tried to lay the three bets. Until now I found that when I expect no goals, it's better to lay only one bet. The last bet, 21-30 will not be picked for laying, because the odds are higher, so I have a higher liability for the same amount won. So for laying there are only two bets 0-10 11-20. I picked up 0-10 because I think I have more chances to win than laying 11-20. This is an assumption. I have to wait for some time, to see what is better, (laying 0-10 or 11-20). In time I can also trim the backing bets, and back only two of the three, according to the stats I gather. I think that my concept is clearer now. |
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It is but why didn't you just write these on paper and start a thread when you was ready and willing to show us your bets. Anyway good luck.
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I think that sharing my bets, gives a chance to someone to improvise, and help him to pick some of mine and win. He may not have checked out the games I propose. That's why I'm sharing my game selections and predictions, to help someone look at these games and see if there is a choice for him to win.
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ok pal, good luck
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Moldova U21 v Russia U21
Waiting for goals to be scored in the first 30' (first goal @ 20') Win! France U21 v Kazakhstan U21 Waiting for goals to be scored in the first 30' (first goal @ 26') Win! Malta U21 v Ukraine U21 (updating betting plan to lay only the first 10') No goals expected, (first goal @ 11') Win! Latvia v Malta Expecting goals, (first goal @ 33') Loss Belgium v Kazakhstan Expecting goals, (first goal @ 40') Loss |
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Colchester v Yeovil
Colchester has two wins and the team is in a good shape. Usually in the first half, a goal is a great possibility. Yeovil has received goals in the first half in many matches. Expecting a goal in the first 30'. Bournemouth v Rochdale Both teams are aggressive, scoring many goals in the previous matches. Expecting an active game with many goals. Waiting for a goal in the first 30'. Charlton v Tranmere Tranmere will try to stay in the group, so I expect a defensive play. Charlton is doing the best to be the top. I expect Charlton to score goals from the first minutes. Aldershot v Macclesfield Both teams looking for a high ranking in the group. They have similar strength, so I don't expect a goal in the first 10'. Turkey U21 v Hungary U21 The Turkish team is first in the group and they are playing against Hungary that has two losses in two matches. Hungary has not managed to be in the finals since 1996. I expect a goal in the first 30'. |
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Colchester v Yeovil
Expecting a goal in the first 30'. First goal @ 1' Win! Bournemouth v Rochdale Waiting for a goal in the first 30'. First goal @ 30' Win! Charlton v Tranmere Expecting goals in the first 30'. First goal @ 33' Loss! Aldershot v Macclesfield No goal expected in the first 10'. No goal until 11' Win! Turkey U21 v Hungary U21 Expecting a goal in the first 30'. First goal @ 28' Win! |
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santos v Palmeiras
Santos has already 3 losses in the last three matches. The team will do it's best to get the three points, because the ranking is low. Palmeiras has no losses in the last four matches, but only one win, and the coach is in a difficult position, the players are supportive, so they'll do their best to win the match. I expect a goal in the first 30'. Cordoba v Villarreal B Villareal has managed to score in all the matches of the group because it has the best attack players. Cordoba has four wins and has the best defence in the group. I expect no goal in the first 10'. Avai v Atletico PR Avai will not manage to stay in the group. In the last seven games the team has 5 losses and 2 draws. I think that if the team manages to keep a draw, it will be OK. Atletico PR is in a similar position, so I don't expect a goal in the first 10'. |
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Santos v Palmeiras
I expect a goal in the first 30′. Half time 0-0 Loss Cordoba v Villarreal B I expect no goal in the first 10′. No goal until 11' Win! Avai v Atletico PR I don’t expect a goal in the first 10′. First goal @ 9' Loss |
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Georgia v Greece
Greece will go to Georgia for a win. If the match is a win for Greece the team will become first in it's group. A draw is good also. I expect no goals in the first 10'. Croatia v Latvia If Greece loses or the match is a draw, Croatia will remain first in the group. I expect a goal in the first 30 minutes in the match against Latvia, to stay in the first position. Belarus U21 v Greece U21 Belarus is seeking a win against Greece, that has not manage to find it's pace, and is struggling in each match. I expect no goals in the first 10'. Germany v Belgium If Belgium goes to Germany, and planning to play aggressively, I expect a German tsunami, and many goals will be scored. Even if they decide a defensive play, Germany will manage to pass defense and score goals. I expect a goal in the first 30'. Malta v Israel Isreal is going to Malta like going for holidays. Malta will try to be defensive, so I don't expect a goal in the first 10'. |
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Georgia v Greece
Expecting no goals in the first 10', first goal @ 19' Win! Croatia v Latvia Expecting a goal in the first 30', first goal @ 64' Loss! Belarus U21 v Greece U21 Expecting no goals in the first 10', first goal @ 40' Win! Germany v Belgium Expecting a goal in the first 30', first goal @ 30' Win! Malta v Israel Expecting no goals in the first 10', first goal @ 11' Win! |
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Cordoba v Huesca
Cordoba is in a good shape and needs a win to get better morality. The team needs fans, so the ticket price is low (5 Euros). Huesca is not interested in the cup, because it has a low ranking in the division, so in this match we will not see the best players of the team. Expecting a goal in the first 30'. Eibar v Ponferradina Eibar is trying to go to the higher Division for three years. The team is not interested in te cup, Ponferradina has problems as an away team but the teamis interested for the cup. I don't expect a goal in the first 10'. Deportivo v Alcoyano Deportivo is not interested in the cup, because the team is trying to return to the Primera Division. The team will be aggressive in this match, because the team lost from Alcoyano in the division. Alcoyano, will enter the field with a feeling that the 2-0 will be repeated. Departivo, will pay more attention to the opponent, so I expect a goal in the first 30'. |
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Cordoba v Huesca
Expecting a goal in the first 30', half-time 0-0 Loss Eibar v Ponferradina I don't expect a goal in the first 10', first goal @ 25' Win! Deportivo v Alcoyano I expect a goal in the first 30', first goal @ 32' Loss! |
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VPS v IFK Mariehamn
VPS is one step ahead to remain in Viekkausliga, but needs two wins to ensure that. In previous matches the team has won against Mariehamn with a low score. Mariehamn in all, away matches is weak, but the team is not interested in the game because it's already clear that will remain in Viekkausliga. I expect no goal in the first 10'. HJK Helsinki v JJK Helsinki has already gathered the points so the team will be the top in Vekkausliga. The performance of the team was the best, with an aggressive play with 72 goals scored, and good defense with only 18 goals of the opponent. JJK is looking for Europa League, so, in this match, the team will try to have a good performace. Expecting a goal in the first 30'. TPS v MyPa TPS is looking for points to go to Europa League, so the team needs to win in the next matches. Mypa is not interested in the points, because the team has ensured the stay in vekkausliga. In the past matches, the results were not good for Mypa. I except that TPS, can win easy, so I expect a goal in the first 30'. Haka v RoPS Haka is not interested in gaining points for this match, but because of the not good performance of the last matches, the coach and the players will have problems. RoPS will do it's best to remain in Vekkausliga, and there are not many matches ahead, so a win is important. I expect a goal in the first 30'. |
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A bad day today!
VPS v IFK Mariehamn I expect no goal in the first 10'. First goal @ 9' Loss HJK Helsinki v JJK Expecting a goal in the first 30'. Half time 0-0 Loss TPS v MyPa I expect a goal in the first 30'. Half time 0-0 Loss Haka v RoPS I expect a goal in the first 30'. First goal @ 45 Loss |
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Bochum v Eintracht Frankfurt
Bochum is waking up after 2 wins, so I expect an aggressive match with Eintracht. The history shows that the team has chances to win. Eintracht has history with no loss until now. The team has seven over 2.5 goals in ten matches. Expecting a goal in the first 30'. Arles v Amiens Arles is in bad shape having 3 losses for 4 matches. Amiens has a defensive play, and the team is satisfied with draws. Expecting no goal in the first 10'. Nantes v Istres Both teams have similar strength and in the past the start to be aggressive late in the match. I don't expect a goal in the first 10'. |
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I dont expect a goal in the first 10' either. Nor do the bookies EXPECT it
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Bochum v Eintracht Frankfurt
Expecting a goal in the first 30'. First goal @ 16' Win! Arles v Amiens Expecting no goal in the first 10'. First goal @ 21' Win! Nantes v Istres I don't expect a goal in the first 10'. First goal @ 23' Win! |
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Leverkusen has a good history (19 matches with no loss), but five basic players are missing. Mgladbach is not very good in attack, but is one of the best teams in defense. Only 4 goals have been scored from the opponent this year. I expect no goals in the first 10'.
B Munich v H Berlin H Berlin has a good shape, but the team has not managed to win in Munich, since 1977. B Munich is better than other teams, having the best attack and defense play in Bundesliga 1. I expect many goals, especially one in the first 30'. Cardiff v Ipswich Cardiff has not lost in the last four matches and the defense has been broken only once with one goal, but before, the goals where one after the other. I expect that the team will try to keep a draw, and many players are returning from injury. I don't expect a goal in the first 10'. Real Madrid v Betis Madrid's tsunami is called Real. The team has managed to score ten goals in the last two matches, I expect no problem to get over the difficulty called Betis. So many gaols expected in this games, of course one goal in the first 30'. |