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And none of his critics give the slightest mention to the fact that he has revolutionised many aspects of the care and fitness of players, eg diet, stretching exercises, warm-downs, individual monitoring of players and so on...
These methods are credited by the players as extending the careers of such as Adams, Dixon, Winterburn by several years. |
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Wenger has transformed Arsenal in his time there, creating a completely new football culture at the club, on every level.
And has laid down solid foundations for a great future, for well after he's gone. Without a doubt, he is the club's greatest-ever manager. |
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Utterly laughable really, to find people who can barely manage a readable sentence on here, imagining they're somehow 'qualified' to sit in judgment of a guy like Wenger!
(Yes, I know we live in a wonderful democracy and all that...I know we all have a right to our (prejudiced and ill-informed) opinions, but just look at the situation, please! Hilarious, if it wasn't so utterly pathetic). |
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Every club in the world would replace their manager with wenger (bar Man utd perhaps, but if they're not top by xmas all the 'life long' fans will be calling for fergies head). The man has transformed the club from a struggling mid table team, to one of the more successful, (only) financially viable and sustainable club in the premier league.
God knows what the last 10 or so years would have been like if we had someone else in charge! |
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Its impossible to say that the club would have been in a terrible position over the last 10 years without him, because it can only ever be conjecture, He is obvioiusly a very talented manager, he has won the prem the fa cup and others, his team is probably the best footballing team in europe from box to box, I do think he has gone a fair time at a top 4 club without a trophy, and maybe a new manager would win something with his team, again thats only conjecture, So I would say he is not overated imo
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mike everyone is entitled to there opinion.
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agree with redundant really, cant agree that every club would replace their manager with Wenger..
e.g Spurs wouldnt...hull..well i bet arsene doesnt even know who sang the song sloop john b,let alone the words.. |
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Wenger IS overated.
He is more interested in himself, and how football views him, than the club he is employed to win trophies for. All of his trophies were won with the spine of a team he inherited. His two greatest players were Henri and Berkamp, and it's not surprising Arsenal have won feck all since those two players left. Wenger has a scatter gun approach to buying players, he buys dozens of young players every year in the hope one or two make the grade eventually. Arsenal will never win the PL again under Wenger. |
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And who signed Henry?
Mug |
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who sold him... teapot
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Got the best years out of him and sold him for a profit.
Mug |
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barca champs league medal, arsenal no no no..saucepan
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Lets think - 13 years ago when AW took over, Arsenal were on par with Spurs and Villa.
Now if Martin O'Neill or Redknapp in the next 13 years were to guide their teams to 3 league titles, 4 fa cups, a Champions League final, Uefa Cup final - they would be focking knighted. Wenger - most underrated manager ever. |
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While playing some pretty good football along the way and signing some of the best players England has ever seen.
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While spending peanuts
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yeah if arsenal and villa had been a dominant force in english soccer3 -5 years earlier..supplying up to 50% of the national team...you'd be right... dessert spoon
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While playing Champions league football for 13 seasons in a row
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yeah if spurs and villa had been a dominant force in english soccer3 -5 years earlier..supplying up to 50% of the national team...you'd be right... dessert spoon
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While finishing in the top 2 for 8 of his 12 full seasons in charge
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While finishing in the top 4 at least in every season since he took charge
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agree jaap he is a nearly man...
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While going through a whole season unbeaten
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A good manager, dont rate him as a person
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1 point for a draw,these days
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How many players have come through the academies of Man Utd, Liverpool and Chelsea over the past 10 years and gone on and played for England?
Can't be as many as one or two. Pretty much the same as Arsenal. |
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Gerrard, owen, carragher, neville x2, beckham, butt, scholes,terry,for starters...
arsenes done a good job for France spain and african nations though to be fair... |
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mikenichols 29 Oct 14:18
Utterly laughable really, to find people who can barely manage a readable sentence on here, imagining they're somehow 'qualified' to sit in judgment of a guy like Wenger! (Yes, I know we live in a wonderful democracy and all that...I know we all have a right to our (prejudiced and ill-informed) opinions, but just look at the situation, please! Hilarious, if it wasn't so utterly pathetic). CailiniDeas8 29 Oct 14:37 mike everyone is entitled to there opinion. I suggest you re-read my above post, Cailini. But do you really RESPECT the opinions of all who post on here?! |
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Didnt read the brackets their mike. No harm meant.
:-) |
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Last 10 years?
Chelsea - Terry Man Utd - Wes Brown? Liverpool - ? Arsenal - Ash Cole, Bentley |
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McHaggis 29 Oct 14:38
Wenger IS overated. He is more interested in himself, and how football views him, than the club he is employed to win trophies for. A more ill-informed, irrational, foolish post on this topic can barely be imagined! Again, I suggest you read up a bit on the man's life and career before you spout such stupid garbage. |
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CailiniDeas8 29 Oct 15:10
Didnt read the brackets their mike. No harm meant. :-) Ok, Cailini, no probs. |
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The England under 21 team is full of players either playing for Arsenal or have played for Arsenal.
In 10 years time the England team will be technically accomplished because of the players produced by Arsenal. I don't see many young English players coming through at Chelsea, Liverpool or Utd that are of the standard of Wilshere or Gibbs. |
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@Jaap
29 Oct 14:51 And who signed Henry? Mug. So he managed to sign ONE great player in 13 years. And you call me a mug...........LOL As I said very overated........... Won only 7 trophies in his 13 years, Compare that to other clubs in the same time frame Arsenal = 7 trophies Chelsea = 11 trophies Utd = 15 trophies Liverpool = 8 trophies. Yes its true, Wenger has won less trophies than any of his major rivals |
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Briefly, just contrast Arsenal pre-Wenger and Arsenal now...
Virtually end of topic, isn't it?! |
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Yes, and how much more money have they spent to win them trophies?
Of course Chelsea were cleaning up the league titles before Roman arrived. :^0 |
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jaap arsenal obviously have some talented youngsters, like the ones you mention, but they dont always progress as a unit or individuals, what happened to the great team of kids from 3/4/5 seasons ago, most of Arsenals best players currently are all bought in players imo, van persie, arshavin, fabregas, nasri rosicky
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mchaggid, he also signed pires, viera, petit, overmars, anelka.. need I go on?
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Anyway, excellent haul OP.
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mike i do know a bit about wengers past life , history etc, he has gone on record in the past as saying that he prefers blacks players..
in all honesty if another manager said i prefer white players he would be accused of being a racist, and would be pilloried for it... i respect those that think hes the bees knees, i dont, but lets get a bit of perspective... |
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Source please Music Man?
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