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is arsene wenger the most overrated manager ever?

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By:
owl4life
When: 28 Oct 09 21:27
this season ant finished yet tho mate, i count in full seasons
By:
owl4life
When: 28 Oct 09 21:29
worst side 2 have ever won champions league, u tryin 2 rile the scousers?
By:
Darkco
When: 28 Oct 09 21:30
that side won a european cup - the most prestigious cup + only 2 players remain
Players that came through the academy =- gerrard + carragher
y if a side that good - were more players not kept??
By:
Darkco
When: 28 Oct 09 21:30
name a worse side player for player?? since the current inception??
By:
owl4life
When: 28 Oct 09 21:33
take it u given up on the principal debate, difficult 2 compare as i dont have the team sheets 4 every winner
By:
music man
When: 28 Oct 09 21:34
arsenalman 28 Oct 21:26


shame hes so anti English ????????

He has said on many occasions that he does not loo at players passports just if they are good enough

James Shea english
Kieran Gibbs english
Kerrea Gilbert english
Kyle Bartley english
Mark Randall english
Craig Eastmond english
Jack Wilshere english
Sanchez Watt English

future england stars coming thru

.............


YAAWNNN.. been saying that for years... they will be sold ...Upson, Bentley, the list is HUGE... apparently not good enough but seem to be good enough for other big clubs,and frequently their national side...
best bet for the Arsenal team is be an ok player and change your name to something french,spanish or african...
if u can get a good tan and some dreads..
By:
owl4life
When: 28 Oct 09 21:35
still scarred by the jeffers buy, i keep on tellin u ppl
By:
arsenalman
When: 28 Oct 09 21:37
maybe start a thread about the demise of sheff wed??
By:
Darkco
When: 28 Oct 09 21:38
more scarred of the reyes signing imo
By:
owl4life
When: 28 Oct 09 21:39
that happened years ago, til sum investment comes along we will languish in championship or get relegated, simple as
By:
Darkco
When: 28 Oct 09 21:40
199293 FRA Marseille
199394 ITA Milan 40 Barcelona ESP Olympic Stadium 70,000
199495 NED Ajax 10 Milan ITA Ernst-Happel-Stadion 49,730
199596 ITA Juventus *11* Ajax NED Stadio Olimpico 67,000 [f]
199697 GER Borussia Dortmund 31 Juventus ITA Olympiastadion 59,000
199798 ESP Real Madrid 10 Juventus ITA Amsterdam ArenA 47,500
199899 ENG Manchester United 21 Bayern Munich GER Camp Nou 90,045
19992000 ESP Real Madrid 30 Valencia ESP Stade de France 78,759
200001 GER Bayern Munich *11* Valencia ESP San Siro 71,500 [g]
200102 ESP Real Madrid 21 Bayer Leverkusen GER Hampden Park 52,000
200203 ITA Milan *00* Juventus ITA Old Trafford 63,215 [h]
200304 POR Porto 30 Monaco FRA Arena AufSchalke 52,000
200405 ENG Liverpool *33* Milan ITA Atatürk Olympic Stadium 70,024
200506 ESP Barcelona 21 Arsenal ENG Stade de France 79,500
200607 ITA Milan 21 Liverpool ENG Olympic Stadium 74,000
200708 ENG Manchester United *11* Chelsea ENG Luzhniki Stadium 67,310 [j]
200809 ESP Barcelona
By:
Darkco
When: 28 Oct 09 21:41
there is your winners - give me a worse side than that liverpool side plz!!
By:
owl4life
When: 28 Oct 09 21:41
and the team sheets?
By:
Darkco
When: 28 Oct 09 21:42
do u want dvd footage of every game as well??
By:
owl4life
When: 28 Oct 09 21:43
yea plz mate
By:
popup
When: 28 Oct 09 22:00
If you think wenger is the most overrated manager ever, then you haven't watch a lot of footy have you?
By:
owl4life
When: 28 Oct 09 22:12
watched loads, never said he is the most overrated manager ever, i just asked the question
By:
lives with his mum
When: 28 Oct 09 23:21
Music Man

Seem good enough for other big clubs:

Upson - Brum and West Ham

Bentley - Blackburn and Spurs

Not exactly massive

Pennant did end up at a big team but would he have made the carling cup team tonight?
By:
Occam's Razor
When: 28 Oct 09 23:28
He is like a French Derren Brown.

Fans paying the highest prices in the world to watch them win nothing. 'Yes, but once the stadium is paid off we will be unstoppable.' No, it will be 2050 and you will need a new one.

It is like it is too easy for him conning the fans and he challenges his mass hypnotism skills by playing Bendtner.
By:
arsenalman
When: 28 Oct 09 23:29
oh dear ...
By:
owl4life
When: 28 Oct 09 23:39
i enjoyed his views
By:
do i like dogs
When: 29 Oct 09 01:06
Arsenal = no history @ the new stadium ,
By:
Terry 'The Bull' Jenkins
When: 29 Oct 09 01:14
Depends how much you rate him, and the truth behind his transfer funds. I go on trophies won, and how much money there has to be spent, and whether you utilise the funds available. Going on some reports you could build a case that would suggest he is inept and horribly over rated, but if he has utilized his available funds, then he has done a sterling job and deserves the merit. Seems a big if to me. I am happy to take a more real view, alot of people who like attacking football, or are Arsenal fans, or believe the medias opinion of people, will feel threatened by the truth, but the truth is, it is very likely he is a horribly over rated manager.
By:
Leaf
When: 29 Oct 09 01:17
Invicibles
By:
Terry 'The Bull' Jenkins
When: 29 Oct 09 01:22
Invincibles. What an era. Shame he has gone totally backwards from there. Would love to have seen Pires stay on etc.
By:
owl4life
When: 29 Oct 09 01:55
nice 2 c we have a more balanced perspective now its not just arsenal fans commenting
By:
Terry 'The Bull' Jenkins
When: 29 Oct 09 02:05
arsenal fans are on a whole a weird breed. flying against general concensus is bound to hurt the brains of most people on this forum bud!
By:
louie87
When: 29 Oct 09 02:08
as a nuetral i love watchin arsenal play. therefore i'm very grateful arsene wenger in the premier league.I expect many feel likewise.
By:
louie87
When: 29 Oct 09 02:09
*is in the premier league :)
By:
Terry 'The Bull' Jenkins
When: 29 Oct 09 02:11
lol that sums him up i am afraid
By:
dddddew
When: 29 Oct 09 02:15
in 1-2 years arsenal will win 5 premier leagues in a row

chelsea cant sign players
utd players are getting past it scholes giggs etc

arsenals youngs guns are unreal

still tink they can win the league this year
By:
TALKSPORT
When: 29 Oct 09 02:15
The players i see wenger bringing through/building has a great future ahead for many years playing good stuff anyother manager at the club would of taken it in a completly different direction.good for the premiership.
By:
slimfast
When: 29 Oct 09 02:16
no
By:
INEEDATIP
When: 29 Oct 09 02:16
depends
By:
Terry 'The Bull' Jenkins
When: 29 Oct 09 02:16
lol
By:
louie87
When: 29 Oct 09 02:19
not sure. obviously playing pretty football doesn't win trophies but this side is capable of challenging for the league and the cups.Big year for them this year as the pressure is on them to deliver a trophy but I don't think you can call him over rated, surely?
By:
Aj123
When: 29 Oct 09 02:57
Arsene Wenger is in fact very overrated pathetic record in the Champions League.
By:
music man
When: 29 Oct 09 05:55
not yet !!!
By:
owl4life
When: 29 Oct 09 12:54
really can't c them winning 5 years in a row mate, maybe if wenger leaves
By:
mikenichols
When: 29 Oct 09 14:02
I suggest those who doubt Wenger go and read his biography, by Jacques Rivoire, with comments and opinions from many key characters in his career.

Listen to former and current Arsenal players, for example...

Or how about tracking the progress of players who left Arsenal:
Hleb, Flamini, Pennant, Bentley, Vieira and a lot more...
Most go downhill, even those at or approaching their peak...

Wenger is a highly gifted coach who knows how to bring the best out of players. Didn't any of you critics watch last night's match, for example?!


And most of his detractors here don't seem to have the remotest clue about the financial constraints under which he's been working these last few years.
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