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By:
nugget
When: 17 Jul 16 16:39
Good win by Pantano the Colombians finally have something to cheer about in this race.  Big ride from Alaphilippe I think he should of won were it not for some bad luck.
By:
nugget
When: 18 Jul 16 10:20
Sagan in the break today or will he play it safe for the green jersey?
By:
Cosmo Kramer
When: 18 Jul 16 10:29
Albasini for today
By:
nugget
When: 18 Jul 16 10:44
good stage for him
By:
nugget
When: 18 Jul 16 10:54
another Swiss rider Cancellara is very short, I think he's from Bern
By:
nugget
When: 18 Jul 16 11:10
could be one for the classics riders
By:
bb66
When: 18 Jul 16 13:07
noone wants it more today than Spartacus, Martin is doomed to fail.
By:
bb66
When: 18 Jul 16 13:07
noone wants it more today than Spartacus, Martin is doomed to fail.
By:
bb66
When: 18 Jul 16 13:10
the finish is taylormade for him, but Sagan and the likes of GvA, Kristoff will make it not that easy
By:
bb66
When: 18 Jul 16 13:24
probably Martin is going to sacrifice himself for Alaphillipe
By:
nugget
When: 18 Jul 16 16:28
Sagan! nowhere but on the line
By:
bb66
When: 18 Jul 16 16:35
Sagan puts Cav in his bagLaughTongue Out
By:
bb66
When: 18 Jul 16 16:56
usually it is Cav who is seen nowhee but on the line, while esp in this forum Sagan is confronted with winning far too less compared to his efforts being tactically inapt, but he's shown he isn't!
By:
bb66
When: 19 Jul 16 23:44
riders who leave the tour early should get paid only half their price money at best, going for early stage wins and then drop out is far too easy to be compared with what real champions like Merchx or Hinault have achieved!
By:
nugget
When: 20 Jul 16 02:01
At least Sagan is finally winning some stages, the green jersey wins he had over the last 2 TdF's were a bit hollow imo considering he didn't even win a stage.  Good to see he has rectified that and is getting the wins to match his talent and amazing consistency.  Since he became road race world champion he cant stop winning, he's certainly repping the wc jersey better than most have.
By:
nugget
When: 20 Jul 16 02:10
Cavendish (31yo) 30 TdF stage wins
                 15 Giro d'Italia stage wins
                 3  Vuelta Espana stage wins
                 --------------
                 48 grand tour stage wins


Sagan (26yo)     7 TdF stage wins
                 0 Giro d'Italia stage wins
                 4 Vuelta Espana stage wins
                 --------------
                 11 grand tour stage wins


a little respect please...
By:
nugget
When: 20 Jul 16 02:28
moving on to todays stage, stage 17 which although not the hardest stage has probably the hardest mountain top finish of the race.  I wonder what tactics Movistar will try to employ.  Many were critical of their tactics last year and it doesn't look like they've learnt their lesson. I mean what on earth were they doing on the Ventoux stage, Team Sky definitely seem to have them rattled.  It seems like their main goal is to get Valverde on the podium and win the team classification, it doesn't look like they believe in Quintana.
By:
nugget
When: 20 Jul 16 05:16
I think cycling is moving too far in the direction of F1 racing with regards to equipment.  Maybe they should look at standardizing sprockets/chainrings and do away with onboard computers.
By:
nugget
When: 20 Jul 16 09:53
stage 17

h2h multi
Yates @2.0 vs Valverde
Porte @1.65 vs Mollema
Aru  @1.75 ys Bardet

pays 5.8
By:
Wildcat Army.
When: 20 Jul 16 10:26
Hills have enhanced Froome to win Stage 17, 5/2 out to 4/1.  Think it's £25 max.
By:
CJ70
When: 20 Jul 16 14:04

Jul 20, 2016 -- 10:26AM, Wildcat Army. wrote:


Hills have enhanced Froome to win Stage 17, 5/2 out to 4/1.

By:
CJ70
When: 20 Jul 16 14:05
Sneaky. You pretty much could have guaranteed a break would go today unless Movistar/Astana killed themselves before tomorrow's TT,
By:
bb66
When: 20 Jul 16 14:19
Probably teams are too big also to show vivid racing, should be not more than 5 or 6
By:
CJ70
When: 20 Jul 16 14:34

Jul 20, 2016 -- 2:19PM, bb66 wrote:


Probably teams are too big also to show vivid racing, should be not more than 5 or 6


Would be the same problem as far as I could see. The strongest riders would still be on the strongest teams with less scope for tactics.

By:
sixtwosix
When: 20 Jul 16 15:37
Another follow the leader yawnfest , with none of the contenders willing to leave their comfort zone and attack until right at the end where if you are lucky you might make a few seconds .

It's a lot cleaner these days  , but crikey it also very dull.
By:
nugget
When: 20 Jul 16 15:54
Zakarin finally

although I thought he was going to crash there zipping his jersey up inside the final km.
By:
Dope
When: 20 Jul 16 22:22
I know Tom Dumoulin is a beast but not he should be so short (3.35, 2nd fav) for this mountain time trial. It's a 10.5km climb at 6.2%.

1st Froome, 2nd Porte for me tomorrow.
By:
nugget
When: 21 Jul 16 08:34
The time trial on stage 13 started with a 7km climb at 5% and finished with a climb of 3.3km at 5%.  Dumoulin was the fastest up the first climb and also had the fastest final split which included the final climb to the line.  He also won from a break on stage 9, a big mountain stage which finished on a 10.1km climb at 7.2%.  The climb was regular and he was dropped on the previous climbs but paced himself back each time.  Dumoulin took it easy yesterday finishing over 20 minutes behind the gc riders but the gc riders only really raced the final 5-6km and had a rest day 2 days ago so there's probably not a lot in that.  My initial thoughts were that Froome would be a certainty for this stage but the way Dumoulin has been climbing and going in general makes me think he has a chance here.

stage 13 TT splits

start to first intermediate- 7km @ 5.0%
Dumoulin
Porte +10
Oliveira +15
Clement +16
Boasson Hagen +17
Froome +17
Thomas +18


3rd intermediate to finish- 9.5km incl. 3.3km @ 5.0%

Dumoulin
Froome +15
Oliveira +35
Coppel +41
Dennis +24
Mollema +26
Thomas +50
Boasson Hagen +53
Valverde +1:02
Porte +1:05



Stage 18
Todays time trial(17km) - The first 4km are flat.  The next 2.5km are at 9.2%.  The next 4km are at 4%.  The next 4 individual km are 8.3%, 0.2%, 8.2%, 2.5%.  The final 2.5 km are slightly downhill.

So 9km out of the total 17km are less than 2.5% gradient. 4.5km of the course has a gradient over 8%. The other 3.5km's are between 4.3% and 5.1%. 

The irregularity of the climb wont help Domoulin but the flatter sections should favour him and he could gain time there.   

The first time check comes after 6.5km.  The final 2km's before that first time check are at 11% and 10.1% and could be decisive. The steep sections suit Froome and he'll certainly be looking to take his advantage there.  The greater number of flattish km's should suit Dumoulin but time differences are usually greater on the climbs than the flat which should favour Froome.  Tough call.
By:
dom888
When: 21 Jul 16 15:41
small bet on dumoulin, the 3.7 you can get now doesnt look too bad
By:
nugget
When: 21 Jul 16 16:29
Big advantage for Froome by going after Dumoulin.  Paced himself the best.
By:
nugget
When: 21 Jul 16 16:33
I wonder how Froome would go if he used a normal chainring.
By:
CJ70
When: 22 Jul 16 14:25
Not sure what Astana are doing today, this may be inspired or ridiculous
By:
bb66
When: 22 Jul 16 14:50
Hope this is not the end of Dumoulin's olympic aspiratonsCryCry
By:
CJ70
When: 22 Jul 16 14:53

Jul 22, 2016 -- 2:50PM, bb66 wrote:


Hope this is not the end of Dumoulin's olympic aspiratons


Looks bad. I really feel sorry for him. He couldn't have asked for a better route.

By:
CJ70
When: 22 Jul 16 15:24
Pierre has no luck. Nasty off.

I'm starting to warm to him now he's not in the French team.
By:
CJ70
When: 22 Jul 16 15:32
Porte down as well. Conditions absolutely horrendous, hope no serious injuries here.
By:
CJ70
When: 22 Jul 16 15:55
Froome down.
By:
Angela Rebecchi
When: 22 Jul 16 16:23
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55            £118

Bardet delivers Cool
By:
nugget
When: 22 Jul 16 16:23
allez Bardet

great ride
By:
nugget
When: 22 Jul 16 16:24
good overs on the exchange
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