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By:
DixieDean60
When: 04 Aug 25 14:09
Maybe Root did have a word with Brook, who knows ?  I doubt he would take any advice on board anyway the way he plays !

Brook is 26 years old, 92 FC games including 30 Tests - he should be experienced enough to understand the match situation.
By:
paulo47
When: 04 Aug 25 14:53
As no Arlott ....
There's a breathless hush in the Close to-night-
Ten to make and the match to win -
A bumping pitch and a blinding light ,
An hour to play and the last man in .
And its not for the sake of a ribbonned coat ,
Or the selfish hope of a season's fame ,
But his Captain's hand on his shoulder smote -
'Play up ! play up ! and play the game ! '


Sir Henry Newbolt - Vitai Lambada .
By:
tobiasr
When: 04 Aug 25 15:11
that's twice in a row now that england have snatched defeat from the jaws of victory and blown the short odds. yet the plaudits keep coming. genuinely baffling
By:
elisjohn
When: 04 Aug 25 16:05
england 10 years since a series victory v big 2
By:
Try My Best
When: 04 Aug 25 16:37
Well played Pomms. Another stunning performance from the 4th ranked side in the world playing India's B Team.
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 04 Aug 25 17:19
It’s back!

The after timer in chief.

Obviously has dementia as he cannot remember India C beating Australia to take the series at the Gabbatoir in 2021
By:
LoyalHoncho
When: 04 Aug 25 18:26
I don’t have a view on Brook’s dismissal but did think that Root, with all his brilliance and experience, gave his wicket away rather cheaply.  The regret was etched on his face as he departed the crease.
India never gave up but Root could have hit another few crucial runs, surely?!
By:
Hayden
When: 04 Aug 25 18:31
If you need a deciding factor maybe consider the fact England gave away 22 wides and 6 no balls in the match , so combined that's nearly 5 times the margin of victory   Happy
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 04 Aug 25 18:33
It looked like a poor dismissal to me too and he knew it.

Pressure does things to even the most experienced of people. I thought England should have won today. They lacked composure the irony is Gill and India had it in spades.

Special thanks to Ben Stokes for making all this possible. He has been magnificent. His team should have had no chance but to use the immortal words of Paul Merson he gave them unbelievable belief.

This should not be forgotten. Not only is he a Lion Heart he raised this team of 30-3 and 40-4 into real Champions and fighters.
By:
LoyalHoncho
When: 04 Aug 25 18:41
I agree.  He is a phenomenon.
By:
SlippyBlue
When: 04 Aug 25 19:06
Merson actually said, " The belief the boss had in us was unbelievable. "

I like that one as well. Grin
By:
elisjohn
When: 04 Aug 25 19:11
didnt really see much fight in them when try to avoid defeat in 2 test , the fights were in jadeja and co in 3 test, jadeja again with washington in 4 test when 0-2 , no i dont see much fight in the english team, theyr good at chasing runs when not exoected to get ,( nothing to lose ). the fight by eng this test for last 6 wickets was abysmall
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 04 Aug 25 19:30
Slippy

I am looking for the sky sports YouTube on that. It was so funny at the time. I am convinced in my head anyway he said unbelievable belief in that order to s****s and guffawing.

What makes it more interesting for me is the Non sense of the phrase ( the English ) being juxtaposed against the spirit of the statement.
By:
Try My Best
When: 04 Aug 25 22:07
Champions and fighters or delusional Pomms and bottle merchants. It's most certainly the latter.
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 05 Aug 25 08:35
We’ll see starting on November 21st

We shall see who is delusional and who has a batting line up too
By:
mafeking
When: 05 Aug 25 15:11
australia's top 3 is a complete mess but the aged bowling attack is still fearsome whereas england have pretty good top 7 but who knows what attack will be available. tracks seem more bowler friendly down under these days. which of australia's iffy batting or england's less than stellar bowling attack can stand up ?
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 05 Aug 25 15:21
It is a tight schedule. Australia’s attack is good. It is also aging. We shall see what happens when it comes under attack. The Kookooburra now has a more pronounced seam and more lacquer.

The India series has proved a good test for England who may now be more aware of their limitations and the need to rotate their bowlers to be more effective. Englands bowlers may not be as good but they have two with extreme pace that can unsettle anyone. They also have 4 other fast bowlers.

I think England will prove the better team unfortunately the second Test is a day night game. Let’s hope it is a great contest.
By:
mafeking
When: 06 Aug 25 14:48
on the face of it 2-2 against a somewhat inexperienced india side is not a good result but there are mitigating factors. played on 4 of the flattest tracks imaginable which england certainly can't have wanted resulting in the bowlers being flogged to death and a 2nd string attack taking the field on the most bowler friendly track of the series

all the dropped catches at the oval is a sign of mental tiredness and smith looked frazzled by the end too having kept for more than 1000 overs in the series. first choice atkinson and wood only playing 1 match between them as well
By:
Try My Best
When: 06 Aug 25 20:44
Poms won 5 tosses and lost the most sessions of play throughout the series. 2-2 rather flattered them methinks. Poms batting averages in last ashes series was abysmal. Will have to do much better if they are to compete. The full quota of bowlers will be reduced somewhat with injuries as always with Archer probably twisting an eyelash before he goes and having 6 months off. 5/2 to win the series. How many Poms are backing them on here.
By:
The Dragon
When: 06 Aug 25 20:45
are u a wind up merchant tmb or just plain daft
By:
Try My Best
When: 06 Aug 25 21:06
What do you not agree about regards the above.
By:
Try My Best
When: 06 Aug 25 22:34
Obviously nothing.
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 07 Aug 25 09:44
I think 2-2 flattered England personally

India COULD have been 3-0 up after 3.

The tail batting collapses in first Test and weak leadership by Gill cost them the first Test.

I think the third Test ( I get confused ) the Pant run out before lunch was the hinge. Not sure which Test Gill got caught on boundary on 144 off Bashir going for his 150 was also a hinge.

What got me was after the even with the value of hindsight Stokes said he would have still put India in!

At the end of the day if my Aunty had …… it is what it is

India were superb. They got their selection wrong and they threw away 2 Test matches they should have won.

I would hope both countries would have learned.

Bumrah and Archer did not need to play on a flat wicket at Old Trafford

I think England will be better stocked with fast bowling resources for the Ashes.

Punter thinks Archer and Wood should play together at Perth and the Gabbatoir as they are the fastest pitches. I might not argue with Punter in that but my own plan would be to rotate Archer and Wood. Atkinson should be more of a constant and Carse and Tongue could both rotate. Overton May be more effective in Aus.

England will have to think about which bowlers on which wickets after this summer.

I thought our batters showed some resilience but bottled it or rather did not THINK it through in the last Test and must do better.

Australia have huge problems in their batting and the tight schedule will put their attack under pressure. It is up to England to bat time and grind them down.

Should be a good series.
By:
The Dragon
When: 10 Aug 25 17:08
oz bowled out for not a lot v saffersCool
By:
DixieDean60
When: 10 Aug 25 17:46
It was a T20 game Dragon.....and they won by 17 runs !
By:
The Dragon
When: 10 Aug 25 18:19
apols dixie .. need to pay more attention, thought it was first day of testCrazy
By:
DixieDean60
When: 10 Aug 25 18:24
I don't think Steve Smith would have been wearing his red pyjamas yesterday if there was a test going on Dragon !
By:
The Dragon
When: 10 Aug 25 18:29
indeed dixie indeedBlush
By:
The Dragon
When: 10 Aug 25 18:36
saffers 120 for 3 chasing 178 and loose. typical saffers
By:
Hayden
When: 10 Aug 25 19:47
Good trading match
By:
Try My Best
When: 16 Aug 25 13:59
Well done lads. Another T20 series win against the Saffers this time.
By:
The Dragon
When: 17 Aug 25 12:14
maxwell to the rescue
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