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South Africa v India 2021/22
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People are trading this ball by ball
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Of those four bat-swingers, if they survive average twenty deliveries each, they'll have sixty runs and around 150 lead without anyone else.
Key is that they swing the bat. |
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Obviously, the above is somewhat finger-in-the-air stuff.
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I would take 150 right now!
Does the pitch flatten? It’s only day3 I think! |
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would have thought the cracks have to widen a bit in the hot sun but can't see it changing a huge amount from what we have currently...lively but value for shots as well..
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Roller hasn't had the clear effect it was having each time it was used at Jo'burg...
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Yep, very confusing.
Interesting info. India beat the bat something like 64 times but only took 4 wickets while SA took 10 from the same. Article about Bumrah yesterday. A good read on cricinfo |
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For their second successive innings on the field, India were doing most things right without getting the reward for it. The previous time had been South Africa's fourth-innings chase in Johannesburg, where the bowlers had induced 62 false shots and only picked up three wickets. Other factors had contributed to India's defeat, such as rain making conditions easier to bat in on the fourth day, and the taller South African bowlers being able to better exploit an up-and-down pitch than India's, but you couldn't deny the role luck had played.
It seemed to be happening all over again. India had been bowled out for 223, and South Africa, following that drop, were 143 for 4. During India's innings on day one, South Africa's bowlers had induced 64 false shots while picking up ten wickets in 77.3 overs. India induced their 64th false shot in the 56th over of South Africa's innings, 5.3 overs after Pujara's drop. This time, Mohammed Shami found Bavuma's edge with a ball that straightened dangerously in the fifth-stump channel. The edge may have fallen short of a less athletic second slip, but Kohli dived to his left to complete an outstanding two-handed grab, his 100th catch in Test cricket. South Africa were 155 for 5. https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/sa-vs-ind-2021-22-2nd-test-india-and-jasprit-bumrahs-faith-in-the-process-finally-pays-off-1296635 |
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Interesting stuff. Fortune has an indelible role in the short-term.
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Pant has won this for India if he makes it to lunch. There, I said it.
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good stuff WD - that 2nd inns for SA @ J'burg felt quite remarkable at the time...
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Richie Benaud's view on Captaincy translates quite well to trading or indeed cricket outcomes more generally.....it's 90% luck....10% skill...
but don't try it without the 10% skill... |
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It was special by SA but there were extremely lucky too nit just the playing and missing but the weather! The rain may have dampened down the pitch of ball, making either of both more playable
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Luck plays a decisive part sometimes
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Are you sure Panty Boi
What a shot! |
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naughty shot but at least in these circs you feel it fits the situation better than when he has sometimes taken that approach..
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He has his eye in now is the difference!
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Pant has won this for India if he makes it to lunch.
...unless Kohli takes all the strike. |
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yep, well that's certainly a fair point as well...trying it in your first few balls when you have his ability (in this format) is crazy..
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England played Pakistan there in 2015. He was struggling a little bit and after he got left out of the third Test we went to the nets and he unloaded quite a lot of things that were on his mind. What it came down to was a lack of trust in and understanding of first-class cricket and an uncertainty about how to play at No 6 or No 7 when perhaps the scoreboard is not dictating your approach.
In one-day cricket he might be leading a run chase and knowing he needs six an over or when batting first he might need to take advantage of a powerplay, but Test cricket is not formulaic in the same way. In that net session, I suggested I should throw him a few balls and he should play each ball on its merits. He seemed to not quite understand Ramprakash about Butler It has taken him 100 Test innings to work out he us nit a Test Match batsman! |
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Jos Buttler’s injury has spared the selectors a decision about whether to retain him in the team for the final Test in Hobart, but it has forced England to think about who will keep wicket this week and also in the future.
100 F ing innings! |
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Full article
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2022/jan/12/100-innings-facts-jos-buttler-not-test-batsman-england-ashes |
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His overall record would still make him a reasonable choice @ 7 if his keeping was sharper but agree with the view that he seems confused at times as to how to play..
Bairstow seems to be very keen on keeping so in the short term (once hand injury sorted) seems an easy choice with Foakes getting another go if Bairstow doesn't make it his own..Billings obviously a chance to impress in Hobart as well.. |
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Buttler is an enigma. I feel, put him in a different nation's Test side, he would've excelled.
Why has he never really been given a go above 7, for starters. Pant is a six, and batting-wise, where is the great difference? (Except that I think Buttler is probably more talented) |
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I think Pant is granted full licence, whatever plays out in the short-term is fine.
They must have a word when he wafts wildly at Cummins/Rabada third ball, for the fifth time...but beyond that, he's utilised purely as an attacking force. When the situation dictates, (and he comes off for an hour or two) he comes into his own. When the situation doesn't dictate, they accept he's not gonna be what a Rahane/Pujara type would be. |
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Time for India to wave goodbye to Pujara and Rahane - their returns have fallen away over a long period now and not getting any younger. OUT!
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End of the line for both Pujara & Rahane, their returns have fallen away over a long period. Form is temporary and decline is permanent
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A person who is so high up in the batting echelons of both limited overs formats, must be of use for a country with a presently fairly average Test batting lineup.
Maybe having Ramprakash as your Test adviser early-on wasn't all that useful (given that all of his weakness was in the mind). |
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Where the hell have you been Eminence?
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Pant has reigned himself in but even so his strike rate on this spicy deck is excellent. What a game changer!
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Oh I think Pant has more talent. He has already won maybe more than 3 or 4 Test Matches. He is 21
Butler is an enigma and yes he is amazing at white ball pyjama cricket! India could have lost the game in the time he has been at the crease. They still might lose but he us putting them in a position where they might win. He us truly awesome and remember you heard it here first. I said this a long time ago! |
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Sorry to hear that! Good to see you. Don’t you just enjoy the game even if not gambling?
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YES Apt!
I was a huge Ramprakash fan. I hated Hussain! But now I wonder. How can someone with so much talent like Butler not transfer it to Test Match Cricket? I wasn’t to see Livingstone get a chance but fear those in charge might ruin him |
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Ah good man!
I have to say I am sick of some of the disgusting people on these forums. |
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Where’s yer marney?
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On India for now but it may not stay there. When Rahane fell India went out 2.20+ and Kohli and especially Pant have brought that back down sub 1.5
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No brainier for me. India at odds against in every Test Match but got lucky with a weather play in the second to get my money back for no loss!
Really 8moressed with SA particularly the bowling and pleased the batting stood up. They could be contenders if the batsmen continue to progress. Petersen and Bavuma need to learn to grind out hundreds and Markram needs a break maybe bat middle order, he has talent. Can’t wait to see Nortje in the side and wonder who they could leave out! Olivier has bowled well so has Ngidi but Jansen is a find. Rabada, Nortje, Jansen like WOW |