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By:
VardonVoo.
When: 15 Feb 21 14:47

Feb 15, 2021 -- 11:25AM, johnnythebull wrote:


so,you send in a nightwatchman,that failssmn pls explain to me the rationale behind sending in 2 in a row


This is a good question - I imagine the answer depends on how many rabbits there are left. You don't want a good batsman to fall in the last over or two before close-of-play before he gets himself "in", so logic dictates that you want those balls used up by a less important batsman. Therefore if that doesn't work it kind of makes sense to keep sending in sacrificial batsmen until the close so long as you have enough left for the next day's play to support your protected batsman once he gets going. If instead your remaining serious batsman got out in the last over, as so often happens, then having a few rabbits left in the hutch is likely to be of no help in saving a match.

Now here's a question that no-on seems to ask - as so many batsman seem to drop on the last ball of a session why not have a "lunch watchman" or a "tea watchman" when a wicket falls close to the end of a session?

By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 15 Feb 21 15:27
Got what we deserved for going silly with the changes

Never change a winning side and never think its a done deal
By:
differentdrum
When: 15 Feb 21 17:05
Which changes have affected the position in a negative way? Anderson for Broad but unlikely to have made a deal of difference on this pitch. You could argue that the other changes have made the team stronger.
By:
Number9
When: 15 Feb 21 19:28
SS, how many wickets has Ali got? Want to continue your argument?
By:
Number9
When: 15 Feb 21 19:29
How well has Foakes kept? Who top scored in 1st innings? Want to continue?
By:
Number9
When: 15 Feb 21 19:32
SS, How many wickets have fallen to seam? What difference does it make who bowls seam? (How many overs of seam have been bowled?) 17 Test matches this year - do you want to bowl our best bowler (aged 87 or something, a world-class all-time great) into the ground before the Ashes even start?
By:
Number9
When: 15 Feb 21 19:33
SS, have you seen the Indian spinners, at home on an Indian bunsen, compared to our spinners? And you think we would have done any better with 1st Test team?
By:
roache
When: 15 Feb 21 22:52
I hope the match referee is going to be having a little chat with Kohli after this test as his constant harranging of the umpires is out of order and will no doubt pressurise the umpire into his way of thinking next time he gives it large on an appeal, how he challenged the umpire over his running on the wicket was laughable and showed a lack of respect to that umpire, i wonder if he had a similar conversation with the groundsman to reprimand him over the 1st test flat wicket that was not to his liking.
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 16 Feb 21 04:03
Marning

Anyone got a scooby on how many Engerland will score?

Bet365 201
Betfair 190
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 16 Feb 21 04:13
I'm sorry but how the hell are you supposed to play that!
By:
brentford
When: 16 Feb 21 04:18
from the non strikers end preferably WD Happy
By:
brentford
When: 16 Feb 21 04:24
shame that from Lawrence had, shown some real composure...until then
By:
brentford
When: 16 Feb 21 04:26
too early in the day to put my commas in the right place Cry
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 16 Feb 21 05:01
I like the look of Lawrence.

Crawley will be in next match but Lawrence might keep his place for Burns. Test cricket is tough and he needs some time to learn
By:
brentford
When: 16 Feb 21 05:09
Likewise WD - he's had a pretty tough start in terms of itinerary compared to some over the years who've been rather more eased in with a home series against SL or WI ...
I'm assuming Bairstow comes in next game so some decisions to be made
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 16 Feb 21 05:20
Bstard only comes in at 3 or 6. Crawley may open.

I think the young man should be given a chance although I like Johnny at 6. I think Pope is struggling against spin even if the tv commentators think he is a good player of spin.
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 16 Feb 21 05:21
I really like Pope as a Test Match batsman too but I would play Johnny at 6 next game
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 16 Feb 21 05:42
You know the commentators were saying how well Pope played in the first innings and how he was a good player of spin and I was watching thinking....nah! Although to be fair. Who can play against spin on this pitch?

Back you judgement, I topped up on under's thinking Pope would be out soon!
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 16 Feb 21 05:44
Ok my man Foakes is in now. I hope he does well. They keep going on about Butler being a better batsman and imho he is not! Game changing batsman when he gets it right maybe but this is Test Cricket. How many games has he changed?
By:
brentford
When: 16 Feb 21 05:47
Putting aside his actual score - Foakes looked by far the most composed player of spin in the 1st dig all be it against a slightly softer ball, obviously he's playing as keeper through the rest of the series but in terms of future tours to Asia he Butler and Bairstow all have claims to be in Eng's best XI on turning pitches...
at least we have good depth if rather lacking a 2nd world class bat.
By:
brentford
When: 16 Feb 21 05:55
re Butler.. I would have largely held a similar view until the last 18 months or whatever it is but he seems to have found a bit more comfort in red ball stuff and the keeping has been a lot better (though not probably as good as Foakes - the Foakes love in re his keeping is arguably a touch overdone)
By:
brentford
When: 16 Feb 21 06:00
Don't think Eng look like gaining any positives from this 2nd inns effort  Sad
By:
elisjohn
When: 16 Feb 21 07:02
might as well open with ali, and give him carte blanche to do this, Grin
By:
elisjohn
When: 16 Feb 21 07:03
brentford, a bit of positive hereWink
By:
brentford
When: 16 Feb 21 07:04
nice while it lasted ej
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 17 Feb 21 05:49
Forget the positive I think a sense of perspective is required.

India just beat Australia in Australia without Kohli, K L Rahul, B Kumar, Shami, Ishant, Umesh, Jajeda and even Bumrah for the last Test!

India out bowled  an Australian attack of Cummings, Starc, Hazlewood and Lyon. Pattinson could not even get in that side that busted Indian bones.

India out batted an Aussie side in their home turf against a side that included Warner, Smith and Labuschagne.

India beat Aussie at the Gabbatoir.

England are 1-1 against that side on their home turf.
By:
Number9
When: 17 Feb 21 09:50
............and I echo your unspoken corollary, WD................bring on the Ashes
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 17 Feb 21 16:37
Absolutely cannot wait!

I was at Sabina Park in 2004 after 30 years of hurt!

Seriously thinking about going to Melbourne.

Wait till we get you to The Gabba Mr Paine...Archer, Wood, Stone, Anderson....welcome to hell!
By:
elisjohn
When: 18 Feb 21 22:34
yes and well still get walloped at least 4-0Laugh
By:
detraveller
When: 20 Feb 21 19:04
yo waenkers wassup.
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 21 Feb 21 10:45
Where have you been DT?

Can you really say saving lives is more important than cricket?

You have missed a couple of big wins!

I think these teams are well matched still on favourable wickets. Clearly India have the spin advantage but the next game I have closer to 50/50 not 1.6/4.4

Had a speculative punt on England already but not sure where the advantage is with the toss. How the ball will swing under lights and when, also how quickly will the ball go soft. I think Bstard and Crawley will strengthen England. The word is the ball is swinging but India can exploit that too so it could be a game of swings which will provide opportunities to make money
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