if they only just pass the follow on loads of time for oz to smash a few and still have best part of 100 overs at england 4th inns

Doesn't matter where you put Buttler, Denly and Roy because they aren't test standard

The most baffling thing of all is we thought changing the bowling would cure the problem, and we lengthened the tail to do so

And then Aus smash 500 right on cue

no wonders. say england 320 all out. around 145 overs left. score 200 in 45 setting 380 in 100 overs

Score	60/2	70/2	99/2	108/2	115/2	Tea	130/2	166/2	166/3	168/3	175/4	196/5	Stumps
England	50	34	29	26	24	32	32	38	44	55	70	90	65
Australia	2.04	2.18	2.32	2.5	2.76	3.0	3.2	4.2	2.9	2.76	1.92	1.85	2.02
Draw	2.0	1.94	1.96	1.8	1.65	1.56	1.52	1.35	1.58	1.67	2.14	2.32	2.04

As i've said before what makes them great one day players is the exact same thing that makes them walking wickets in test matches...if we keep trying to force a square peg through a round hole their one day form could be going down the swanny as well

Eric - if you had to choose your players from either the T20 and One-Day squads
or from the best of the eligible County team players, who are arguably more
used to playing proper cricket, which would you choose?

I don’t think runs are likely to be overly relevant here. England need to bat til at least tea tomorrow to save the game and will need to bat well in the fourth innings. Can’t see Aussies forcing follow on, no matter what happens tomorrow (barring some unlikely big scoring from England), Australia will bat again, score quickly and take the game away from England. If they skittle is tomorrow morning they’ll put us in with 30/40 minutes to go before stumps. If we hold out for a bit they’ll give themselves 50/60 overs on day 5.

Funny, we seem quite happy to seperate our one day bowlers from our test bowlers but dont seem to be able to do the same with our batsmen.

yes agree with that , they are not up to test standard

a question for the cricket nuts on here do you think jason roy get a sex tape of root and bayliss and thats why he is in the team

agree on sibley

& doc...roy our best batsman in the WC, had to play this series, shouldn't have opened & probably should be even lower down the order
clearly it hasn't worked (so far)

Warner has been told to be a good boy though

the mongrel has been removed from him, that's what made him the gritty little bas*ard he was, he was a very good player until that sandpaper incident

I wish he'd get it back because he looks a shell of a man without it

Try My Best06 Sep 19 20:02

Rabbit Roy it was so obvious. Still plenty on here wanted him. You lot know nothing about the game

Pot, kettle, black?

Why does this fool never post anything before a game starts

Weather forecast for Sat/Sun looks quite good so we should get 2 full days cricket. 196 overs.

Plenty of time for a result. The new ball is due in 6 overs so this first session is going very tough for England.

It will be interesting to see if Aussies enforce the follow on if they have a choice.

I'm not sure they would.

GLA

surely Eng only need to avoid follow on , and then bat out last day for the draw ?, 2,22 the draw seems high to me

burns is an impressive guy, arguably captaincy material



Can he make joffrey bowl a line wuthout getting the pip?

surely Eng only need to avoid follow on , and then bat out last day for the draw ?, 2,22 the draw seems high to me

Assuming Aussie bat 40 or so Eng need to survive about 60 balls per wicket.

Its quite close to a coinflip with their balls faced/batting averages. Problem is a few are out of nick. And you dont get your average batting on day 4 / 5 pitches!

eng just need to bat most of the day & get somewhere close to aus

then its a cert thai

aus will bat again even if they roll eng quick

Just need to bat as long as possible, if we bat to around Tea today the Aussies could potentially have the best part of 3 consecutive days bowling here - that's what we've got to be thinking about especially with back to back Test to follow. Easier said than done though!