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By:
elisjohn
When: 05 Sep 19 12:42
ebony was on 1st half hourCry
By:
elisjohn
When: 05 Sep 19 12:48
no boycs this morning
By:
GRANTCKING
When: 05 Sep 19 12:53
has ebony declared the thai free wonger yet?
By:
Cardinal Scott
When: 05 Sep 19 12:55
he's a genius!
By:
jucel69
When: 05 Sep 19 12:56
weather has cleared now, draw shortening for no particular reason
By:
Cardinal Scott
When: 05 Sep 19 12:57

Sep 5, 2019 -- 12:56PM, jucel69 wrote:


weather has cleared now, draw shortening for no particular reason


I was scratching my head too, not the Filthy Cabal again?

By:
jucel69
When: 05 Sep 19 12:59
bowling both sides of the wicket isn't a great idea ffs
By:
Cardinal Scott
When: 05 Sep 19 13:00
That light drizzle forecast tomorrow is all at 50%....if it moves to 60 & 70
By:
jucel69
When: 05 Sep 19 13:00

Sep 5, 2019 -- 12:57PM, Cardinal Scott wrote:


Sep  5, 2019 -- 12:56PM, jucel69 wrote:weather has cleared now, draw shortening for no particular reasonI was scratching my head too, not the Filthy Cabal again?


Clifford, Arlington, Buckingham, Ashley, and Lauderdale

By:
jucel69
When: 05 Sep 19 13:01
yeh have to see how that rain materialises, if it's a big band or not
By:
jucel69
When: 05 Sep 19 13:02

Sep 5, 2019 -- 1:00PM, jucel69 wrote:


Sep  5, 2019 -- 12:57PM, Cardinal Scott wrote:Sep  5, 2019 -- 12:56PM, jucel69 wrote:weather has cleared now, draw shortening for no particular reasonI was scratching my head too, not the Filthy Cabal again?Clifford, Arlington, Buckingham, Ashley, and Lauderdale


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cabal_ministry

By:
jucel69
When: 05 Sep 19 13:02
this game is done!
By:
jucel69
When: 05 Sep 19 13:06
Look at Smith's wagon wheel, shocking bowling!

https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/19430/statistics/1152849/england-vs-australia-4th-test-icc-world-test-championship-2019-2021
By:
jucel69
When: 05 Sep 19 13:09
fcuking hell Stephen Fry on TMSCry
By:
jucel69
When: 05 Sep 19 13:10
wonder if his 13 year old husband is with him
By:
Eric.Cartman
When: 05 Sep 19 13:15
poor fella..prostate buggered into submission
By:
jucel69
When: 05 Sep 19 13:16

Sep 5, 2019 -- 1:15PM, Eric.Cartman wrote:


poor fella..prostate buggered into submission


Laugh

By:
anxious
When: 05 Sep 19 13:17
England 5-1 Draw 6-4  Australia 21-20   365
By:
Cardinal Scott
When: 05 Sep 19 13:17
When I found out he had been in the nick for fraud way back I was STAGGERED!
By:
jucel69
When: 05 Sep 19 13:21

Sep 5, 2019 -- 1:17PM, Cardinal Scott wrote:


When I found out he had been in the nick for fraud way back I was STAGGERED!


> Did he blame it on his manic depression?

By:
jucel69
When: 05 Sep 19 13:23
Can't see Eng holding on for a draw here
By:
SaveTheWhales.
When: 05 Sep 19 13:23
Fry was celibate for 16 years .. poor lad must be getting wrecked thats a lot of catching up to do
By:
Cardinal Scott
When: 05 Sep 19 13:23

Sep 5, 2019 -- 1:21PM, jucel69 wrote:


Sep  5, 2019 --  1:17PM, Cardinal Scott wrote:When I found out he had been in the nick for fraud way back I was STAGGERED!> Did he blame it on his manic depression?


Was way back in the 70s

By:
jucel69
When: 05 Sep 19 13:24

Sep 5, 2019 -- 1:23PM, SaveTheWhales. wrote:


Fry was celibate for 16 years .. poor lad must be getting wrecked thats a lot of catching up to do


**** like a ring doughnut

By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 05 Sep 19 13:24
Hello Chaps,

Just back from a short trip to Belgium.

Same old same old!

My theorey to bowl at Smiff is to bowl a middle and leg line.

Leg slip. long leg. square leg. Deep Backward very square leg, two short mid wickets. Mid on

3 on the off somewhere!

As I said leg stump line but he is such a fine player he can deal with that.

IMHO the deal is to vary the angle of attack from the crease i.e bowl wide and close to the stumps, move around the crease don't let him get into a slot.

Change the length or don't settle on a length. He is a very good judge of length. He can aslo deal with this.

The key then would be to incorporate the above with a change of pace. Pace can be difficult to judge.

We are looking to get him caught at leg slip and fine leg off quicker balls. Deep backward off the hook or pull.  Short mid wicket / square leg off slower balls or mi****.

It is harder to place the ball precisely on the leg side than the offside. Easier to hit it in the air. The aim would be to try and dry up his runs by bowling one side of the wickets and forcing him to play scoring shots where there are fielders waiting. This is a dangerous game as he has such a great eye and can score quickly but I don't think this tictac has been tried at length with sustained skill and accuracy. We have a bowler in Archer who has the pace to bowl a legside line and he has good skill and a brain. I am not sure the others have enough skill or pace, maybe Broad could.

Anyway that is my way of dealing with Smiff
By:
jucel69
When: 05 Sep 19 13:26

Sep 5, 2019 -- 1:24PM, Whisperingdeath wrote:


Hello Chaps,Just back from a short trip to Belgium.Same old same old!My theorey to bowl at Smiff is to bowl a middle and leg line.Leg slip. long leg. square leg. Deep Backward very square leg, two short mid wickets. Mid on3 on the off somewhere!As I said leg stump line but he is such a fine player he can deal with that.IMHO the deal is to vary the angle of attack from the crease i.e bowl wide and close to the stumps, move around the crease don't let him get into a slot.Change the length or don't settle on a length. He is a very good judge of length. He can aslo deal with this.The key then would be to incorporate the above with a change of pace. Pace can be difficult to judge.We are looking to get him caught at leg slip and fine leg off quicker balls. Deep backward off the hook or pull.  Short mid wicket / square leg off slower balls or mi****. It is harder to place the ball precisely on the leg side than the offside. Easier to hit it in the air. The aim would be to try and dry up his runs by bowling one side of the wickets and forcing him to play scoring shots where there are fielders waiting. This is a dangerous game as he has such a great eye and can score quickly but I don't think this tictac has been tried at length with sustained skill and accuracy. We have a bowler in Archer who has the pace to bowl a legside line and he has good skill and a brain. I am not sure the others have enough skill or pace, maybe Broad could.Anyway that is my way of dealing with Smiff


https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/19430/statistics/1152849/england-vs-australia-4th-test-icc-world-test-championship-2019-2021

By:
SaveTheWhales.
When: 05 Sep 19 13:27
Is there a miracle 330+ from Eng in the tank?

Or even a performance where less than 3 wickets get thrown away?
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 05 Sep 19 13:28
Celibate for 16 years? what no masterbation either?

If that's the case I'd be tearing down buildings Laugh
By:
jucel69
When: 05 Sep 19 13:29

Sep 5, 2019 -- 1:27PM, SaveTheWhales. wrote:


Is there a miracle 330+ from Eng in the tank? Or even a performance where less than 3 wickets get thrown away?


If they bat like they did in the 2nd inns at Headingley then yes!
They really need to dig in and give em nothing

By:
jucel69
When: 05 Sep 19 13:30

Sep 5, 2019 -- 1:28PM, SontaranStratagem wrote:


Celibate for 16 years? what no masterbation either? If that's the case I'd be tearing down buildings


imagine the state of his kegsCry

By:
Eric.Cartman
When: 05 Sep 19 13:33
Everythings been tried to death with Smith..FA seems to work hence best batsman in the world...reckon he's definitely on the autistic spectrum...i'd put a silly mid-off in, right in his eyeline and have his laces/fly undone..reckon it would really p!ss Smith off
By:
SaveTheWhales.
When: 05 Sep 19 13:34

Sep 5, 2019 -- 1:28PM, SontaranStratagem wrote:


Celibate for 16 years? what no masterbation either? If that's the case I'd be tearing down buildings


maybe the TMS comms will figure out this is a question that needs posing

By:
SaveTheWhales.
When: 05 Sep 19 13:35

Sep 5, 2019 -- 1:33PM, Eric.Cartman wrote:


Everythings been tried to death with Smith..FA seems to work hence best batsman in the world...reckon he's definitely on the autistic spectrum...i'd put a silly mid-off in, right in his eyeline and have his laces/fly undone..reckon it would really p!ss Smith off


yes. And drop random pieces of litter around he has to keep picking up

By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 05 Sep 19 13:36
I'd have someone wearing odd trainers running in, one orange trainer one pink trainer, that might mess with him as well
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 05 Sep 19 13:41
SPD Smith   

101(163)
11x4 - 0x6
Control %
93%

Productive Shot
Flick

38 runs

Therein lies the problem

His control is excellent!

But sometimes your strength can also be your weakness. We know where he likes to score. I am not saying bowl to his strengths but defend his strong areas. Do not give him easy runs in his scoring areas make him work for them by challenging him to go through or over his scoring areas. Again I say change of pace, angle and length plus a bumper barrage from Archer.

If you bowl a 4th stump line you cannot have slips and defend both sides of the wicket. He can take his time to wait for the half volley and alse keep moving across the line to fins the leg side gaps.

It is a tough call because he is so good but I have not seen anyone sustaining a leg theory challenge and would like to see it
By:
tomtimtum
When: 05 Sep 19 13:45
ffs roy
By:
sewter lives again
When: 05 Sep 19 13:48
wtf Roy again
By:
johnnythebull
When: 05 Sep 19 13:48
the selectors come in for some stick but fair play for recruiting a SAFFER who not only scores a ton of test runs when needed but is also a superb slip fielder..sometimes they DO get it right
By:
Cardinal Scott
When: 05 Sep 19 13:49
Some huge draw backs coming in!
By:
Eric.Cartman
When: 05 Sep 19 13:50
At this rate Roy will soon be batting 11 and fielding at third man
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