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By:
SaveTheWhales.
When: 05 Aug 19 15:23

Aug 5, 2019 -- 3:21PM, Try My Best wrote:


How much have you lost on this one girls. You lot are clueless.


youll probably find books talk here a lot less than you would believe

By:
roache
When: 05 Aug 19 15:24
Winning the world cup was never an issue for the Aussies to continue winning test matches as the Sky folk are stating its a world cup malaise Laugh
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 05 Aug 19 15:27
How much have you lost on this one girls. You lot are clueless.


Won £500!

How about posting your opinion on the cricket before a game starts?
By:
Eric.Cartman
When: 05 Aug 19 15:27
England
-£2,465.96
   
               
Australia
£5,492.99
   
               
The Draw
£4,664.82
By:
johnnythebull
When: 05 Aug 19 15:32
mega wimp Root coming out with the same lame duck,deluded BS
By:
wondersobright
When: 05 Aug 19 15:38
refusing to blame the batting again
By:
wondersobright
When: 05 Aug 19 15:38
england's batting is crap
and bar smith & warner so is australia's
By:
detraveller
When: 05 Aug 19 15:42
Isa should be sacked
By:
the artful dodger
When: 05 Aug 19 15:55
Hard to say which is worse, England's batting today or the umpiring!
By:
Eric.Cartman
When: 05 Aug 19 15:57
cant think of any other test side that Denley would get into..including the associates...fair enough if he was 22 with a bit of improvement in him....as for Roy..he will have a couple of more fails at the top of the order be moved down to five/six...fail again...then wont see him playing test cricket again(his hands get so far in front and outside of his body, just a walking wicket)...like to see sam curran back in...unless its swinging he probably will struggle but at least he is far less likely to break down and certainly carrys less mental scar tissue. Vince back in (25 will do)..Archer's gonner be fascinating..cant have both Bairstow/Buttler.
Burns
Vince
Root
Stokes
Foakes
Woakes
Curran
Archer
Broad
Any spinner (doesnt matter all sh1t)
any one of Buttler/roy/Bairstow in any position from 1-7
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 05 Aug 19 16:26
"England surrender on final day"

Shock horror

That has to be the most pathetic capulation in test match history

Having them 122/8 and heading into the lead with 2 set batsman and 6 wickets in hand and still lose by that margin... that took some doing so fair play to us for that one SadCry

A shower of s****
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 05 Aug 19 16:33
Did think it would turn into a minefield once we batted on it

Root should be sacked as captain for that shower of c*ap yesterday, just gave in and he has no clue when it comes to tactics either
By:
mafeking
When: 05 Aug 19 16:46
game wasn't lost today. letting them off hook day 1 and after that hard to overcome having no anderson and moeen horribly out of form. root literally had no one to turn to at times yday
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 05 Aug 19 16:51
Mafeking

Root needed to do some motivating, standing there like a chocolate teapot isn't going to rally the troops

Get in the Aussies faces, sledge them, eff and blind if needs be, something to get your men tails up

Standing there hands on hips and looking like a spare part at a wedding isn't going to do anything, it felt like a funeral yesterday

Broad should be captain if only for the fact he winds up the Aussies
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 05 Aug 19 16:53
Failing that make Stokes captain?

Someone with a bit of fire in their belly ffs

Root looks like the milky bar kids half brother
By:
elisjohn
When: 05 Aug 19 16:57
all these are getting knighted for winning a mickey. mouse trophy few weeks back, most of them CANNOTplay proper cricket.
By:
Try My Best
When: 05 Aug 19 17:00
Loving this
By:
Injera
When: 05 Aug 19 17:03
The selection of Moeen was plain daft. They didn't think him good enough to bowl 10 overs in the World Cup so...

His batting is shot to pieces.

Woakes WAS fit yesterday and bowled 7 overs. Why?

I still question Root's desire to be 'expansive' (yuk). JB's late cut off Siddle was ludicrous and Roy's shot today x rated . Haven't seen any other wickets today but fear the worst.

JB down at 7 and keeping again needs some explaining. Foakes is the best in the country and has the potential to average high 30s at 7. If JB can't average 40+ at 5, he shouldn't be playing.

If Bayliss and Root can't get the off field decisions right, we have no chance.
By:
detraveller
When: 05 Aug 19 17:08
Root looks like the milky bar kids half brother

I don't know who the milky bar kid is but this made me chuckle.
By:
VardonVoo.
When: 05 Aug 19 17:20
In ASDA they have a shelf full of "Reduced to Clear" items. At certain times of day a member of staff appears with a price gun to mark everything down even further and hands back to the baying crowd their items that they'd already grabbed and given him to re-price. Usually it's a youngish Asian chap at my local store. I sometimes tell him he is "The Milky Bar Kid" and he gives me this polite-but-clearly-perplexed half-smile, even when I point to the "gun".
By:
VardonVoo.
When: 05 Aug 19 17:23
You youngsters don't even have a proper old sea-dog for a Captain Birds-Eye these days.

O tempora! O mores!
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 05 Aug 19 17:57
Archer, Woakes, Stokes and Broad are probably going to be our 4 quicks in the next test

Archer is untried and doesn't look good enough for test cricket, Woakes bowls like he's in 20/20s which is 3 over spells and then is tired, Stokes is basically a poorer version of a prime peter Siddle, will run in all day but hasn't really got the accuracy and pace to really threaten, he's a nice option to have if we've got 2 other great seamers though. Broad is Broad, he can have spells where he's totally unplayable, but he needs back up at the other end. Then there's the spinners CryCry Root had to turn to himself yesterday ffs.
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 05 Aug 19 18:03
I think England are flat track bullies when batting and only bowl well in helpful conditions otherwise look pretty ordinary at times. Aussie got their selection right and we did not.

Unfortunately Moen has to go for Leach. I like Moen but he needs to find some form and runs in County cricket. We could still play him and Leach in the same side with Root at 3.

The answers unfortunately are not so obvious as the problems. Foakes is one of the answers. Get him in for Bstard or Butler.

I like the look of Malan this year. Maybe he is ready for another crack. I have seen enough of Roy to know every gun fast bowler in Test Cricket would fancy him. It is a shame as I would like to see someone like him in the side but not Bstard, Butler and him.

Too early to panic. Maybe Lords will return to a normal pitch and our batters might flourish I think only desperation will call for one of the young guns to open and then it will be too late.

I am not a huge Broad fan, 1-91 in the second innings but he is now the leader of the line. Archer must come in at Lords. How does curran get in? I would rather play him than Denly. Move everybody else up.

So for me

Burns
Roy
Root
Stokes
Butler
Curran
Foakes
Woakes
Archer
Leach
Broad

I wouldn't be averse to throwing in a youngster at the top instead of Roy but he ought to be given a chance. Test Cricket is a hard game. At the moment he does not look well adapted to it.
By:
Injera
When: 05 Aug 19 18:20
WD - Roy has no desire nor charge to adapt. Root wants him to play HIS way. Madness for sure but it's the brand....

Leach HAS to play. Archer is box office. As your team suggests, it's a no brainer to pick Foakes ahead of Denly.
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 05 Aug 19 18:38
Archer is untried and doesn't look good enough for test cricket

Give him a chance we need a FAST bowler
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 05 Aug 19 18:43
WD

I will give him a chance, I thought he should have been in ahead of Woakes personally

But is he good enough? I'm sure we'll find out soon enough
By:
tomtimtum
When: 05 Aug 19 19:11

Aug 5, 2019 -- 6:43PM, SontaranStratagem wrote:


WD I will give him a chance, I thought he should have been in ahead of Woakes personally But is he good enough? I'm sure we'll find out soon enough


You haven't given him a chance because you've already said he doesn't look good enough for test cricket.
What is that actually based on?
He's been fantastic in white ball cricket for England.
His red ball record is exceptional and he himself has said he's a better red ball bowler than white ball

By:
wondersobright
When: 05 Aug 19 19:13
SaveTheWhales. • August 5, 2019 3:04 PM BST
Odds for Lords?

wondersobright • August 5, 2019 3:06 PM BST
11/8
5
11/8
something like that


Laugh not bad
By:
tomtimtum
When: 05 Aug 19 19:18

Aug 5, 2019 -- 6:03PM, Whisperingdeath wrote:


I think England are flat track bullies when batting and only bowl well in helpful conditions otherwise look pretty ordinary at times. Aussie got their selection right and we did not.Unfortunately Moen has to go for Leach. I like Moen but he needs to find some form and runs in County cricket. We could still play him and Leach in the same side with Root at 3.The answers unfortunately are not so obvious as the problems. Foakes is one of the answers. Get him in for Bstard or Butler.I like the look of Malan this year. Maybe he is ready for another crack. I have seen enough of Roy to know every gun fast bowler in Test Cricket would fancy him. It is a shame as I would like to see someone like him in the side but not Bstard, Butler and him.Too early to panic. Maybe Lords will return to a normal pitch and our batters might flourish I think only desperation will call for one of the young guns to open and then it will be too late.I am not a huge Broad fan, 1-91 in the second innings but he is now the leader of the line. Archer must come in at Lords. How does curran get in? I would rather play him than Denly. Move everybody else up.So for meBurnsRoyRootStokesButlerCurranFoakesWoakesArcherLeachBroadI wouldn't be averse to throwing in a youngster at the top instead of Roy but he ought to be given a chance. Test Cricket is a hard game. At the moment he does not look well adapted to it.


As much as I like Curran that batting order looks a batsman light to me, do we really need 6 bowling options at home.

Burns
Roy
Root
Bairstow
Stokes
Buttler
Foakes (wk)
Woakes
Archer
Broad
Leach

They need to take the gloves off Jonny.
We don't need a wk batsman, we have plenty of those. We need some batsman capable of scoring runs and Jonny is capable of that if liberated from the gloves!

By:
Cardinal Scott
When: 05 Aug 19 19:21
As long as I get my green I don't get wound up about Eng losses.

Nevertheless this Eng team if you look through last 5 years have a habit of bouncing back after a dreadful display at home so don't get too despondent.
By:
johnnythebull
When: 05 Aug 19 19:27
likely as not to get owned again at Lords
weather may help them salvage a draw
zero chance of winning(beforetiming)Wink
By:
detraveller
When: 05 Aug 19 19:49
Laying aus at 2.3 for 500
By:
detraveller
When: 05 Aug 19 19:50
When people drink away the sorrow of the loss tonight, England will be favorites again.
By:
detraveller
When: 05 Aug 19 19:51
*today's loss
By:
roggrain
When: 05 Aug 19 19:53
Beyond me how England's batsmen can be so hopeless at playing Lyon's severe spin. Anyone who has played any game involving a ball will

know that if all you do is to block the ball the spin will take on your bat/racquet. It is essential to do one of three things: 1.Go down the wicket

and hit it on the full, 2: hit the ball at the moment it bounces or 3, hit through the ball to cancel out the spin.

Unbelievable naivety from England.
By:
sewter lives again
When: 05 Aug 19 20:16
Sibley
Vince/Burns your choice but I prefer Vince
Stokes
Root
Roy
Buttler
Foakes
Woakes
Rashid/Leech your choice but I prefer Rashid
Archer
Broad

such a shame Morgan cant/wont play Test cricket purely for his captaincy. Root has been pitiful in this department
By:
onthejim
When: 05 Aug 19 20:36
Foakes has to play,i believe his technique against the quicks is as good as anyone we have, Roy has to go , his dismissal  was one of the worst shots I've seen at test level (would loved to have been in Boycott's presence when he played it!!), would bring Vince in for Denly, Archer has to play if fit along with Woakes and Broad, Moen out prob for Leech, as for an opener to go with Burns (still not convinced) I'm struggling, what happened to the lad from Lancashire?,  he looked a proper batsman but seems to have dropped off the radar!
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 05 Aug 19 20:36
Lyon was made to look like Warne today, he's not even in Giles class ffs

It baffles me how he manages to get the amount of wickets he does, he's a part time spin bowler in the 90s in my opinion
By:
detraveller
When: 05 Aug 19 20:56
Part time is the new full time.
By:
elisjohn
When: 05 Aug 19 21:30
agree sontaran, standard in sport in decline, but one area that cricketers have made giant strides is in their fielding
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