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By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 05 Aug 19 14:29
You are regualrly berating these Umpires, maybe fairly at times but they are not the reason England are losing this match. If anyone should be under the spotlight it is the Selectors, The Manager, the Captain, the Bowlers, the tictacs!
By:
wondersobright
When: 05 Aug 19 14:29
post where I have (other than this game)
ta
By:
sewter lives again
When: 05 Aug 19 14:30
Woakes looks a better Test match batsman than either Buttler or Bairstow
By:
detraveller
When: 05 Aug 19 14:30
The amount of nonsense on the forum regarding umpires was clear in the world cup final.
Kumar dharmasena got it wrong and people started questioning why he was there in the first place.
He was there because he was the umpire of the year.
If you think he didn't deserve to be standing in the final, you have an issue with the whole ICC umpiring system because if the umpire of the year isn't good enough for you, you are the one with the problem.
By:
tomtimtum
When: 05 Aug 19 14:30

Aug 5, 2019 -- 2:30PM, sewter lives again wrote:


Woakes looks a better Test match batsman than either Buttler or Bairstow


was just away to post that Woakes looks like our best batsman again!

By:
detraveller
When: 05 Aug 19 14:30
I am right becasue I write bigger. End of story.
By:
wondersobright
When: 05 Aug 19 14:30
Laugh
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 05 Aug 19 14:30
The reaction of the batsman is often a pretty good indicator on whether a decision is "good" or "bad".
If Jonny is reviewing it instantly and saying it didn't hit his glove, how can Wilson 22 yards away be saying with 100% certainty that it did?


We are playing Australia. Do you think their batsmen will say jolly good shout Umpire, yes I did hit that!
By:
wondersobright
When: 05 Aug 19 14:31

Aug 5, 2019 -- 2:30PM, tomtimtum wrote:


Aug  5, 2019 --  2:30PM, sewter lives again wrote:Woakes looks a better Test match batsman than either Buttler or Bairstowwas just away to post that Woakes looks like our best batsman again!


ignorant morons will still call for him to be dropped though

By:
wondersobright
When: 05 Aug 19 14:32
he's 1 of our best players I find it pretty incredible tbh
By:
detraveller
When: 05 Aug 19 14:32

Aug 5, 2019 -- 2:28PM, tomtimtum wrote:


Aug  5, 2019 --  2:27PM, Whisperingdeath wrote:bairstow reviewed suggesting it missed his gloveAnd still the third Umpire did not over turn it!Now you are getting angry at the Umpire for giving the correct decision!The reaction of the batsman is often a pretty good indicator on whether a decision is "good" or "bad".If Jonny is reviewing it instantly and saying it didn't hit his glove, how can Wilson 22 yards away be saying with 100% certainty that it did?


Non sense again.

Its not that you are wrong about it. Its just that you expecting the third umpire to consider a batsman's reaction in his decision isn't something I expected you to say.

By:
wondersobright
When: 05 Aug 19 14:32
gough on the review show was saying he wouldn't have picked him for this test Shocked
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 05 Aug 19 14:33
Woakes looks a better Test match batsman than either Buttler or Bairstow


Agreed. Both him and Curran need to try and force their way into the side as batsmen. If Anderson was fit neither would be likely playing at Lords! The thing is there are vacancies at 3 and 6
By:
detraveller
When: 05 Aug 19 14:33
You're gonna have Kamran Akmal fake a heart attack everytime he's given out and reviews. Are you going to give him not out becase the reaction of the batsman clearly showed it was a wrong decision?
By:
tomtimtum
When: 05 Aug 19 14:33

Aug 5, 2019 -- 2:33PM, detraveller wrote:


You're gonna have Kamran Akmal fake a heart attack everytime he's given out and reviews. Are you going to give him not out becase the reaction of the batsman clearly showed it was a wrong decision?


I think you're confused here, I haven't mentioned the third ump.

By:
wondersobright
When: 05 Aug 19 14:34
I didn't either
3rd umpire was brought into the discussion
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 05 Aug 19 14:35
Its not that you are wrong about it. Its just that you expecting the third umpire to consider a batsman's reaction in his decision isn't something I expected you to say.


I didn't say thatWink did I tom!
By:
detraveller
When: 05 Aug 19 14:35
Ok then i misunderstood both of you. apologies.

But i stil don't get how the reaction of the batsman can be used to make a correct decision considering it comes after the decision is given.
By:
tomtimtum
When: 05 Aug 19 14:36

Aug 5, 2019 -- 2:35PM, detraveller wrote:


Ok then i misunderstood both of you. apologies.But i stil don't get how the reaction of the batsman can be used to make a correct decision considering it comes after the decision is given.


The reaction isnt used for anything, its merely a reflection of the on field umpires decision.
If a batsman refers instantly then its highly likely the umpire gave the wrong decision.

By:
wondersobright
When: 05 Aug 19 14:37
no worries det

I didn't say use bairstow's reaction as part of the umpire decision making
I merely suggested that his instant review implied that he hadn't hit it
which replays couldn't conclusively confirm or deny

and hence the onfield call had to stand
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 05 Aug 19 14:37
Laugh

Different argument DT!

But looking for the Batsman reaction is not only in the Laws but plain stupid.
By:
detraveller
When: 05 Aug 19 14:37
Ok.

But what is the issue here? The umpire thought it was out.
And we know from the replays that even with the benefit of replays we can't figure out what exactly happened. That's how close it was.
By:
wondersobright
When: 05 Aug 19 14:37
some might say jo-el went off the aussie fielders reactions!!
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 05 Aug 19 14:38
If a batsman refers instantly then its highly likely the umpire gave the wrong decision.


Laugh

Stuart Broad! Watson from Australia?
By:
wondersobright
When: 05 Aug 19 14:38
high
By:
wondersobright
When: 05 Aug 19 14:39
well yeah broad didn't walk for a nick to 1st slip remember!!
By:
wondersobright
When: 05 Aug 19 14:39
kohli walked in the world cup when hadn't nicked it also
By:
detraveller
When: 05 Aug 19 14:39

Aug 5, 2019 -- 2:39PM, wondersobright wrote:


well yeah broad didn't walk for a nick to 1st slip remember!!


didn't hit it. You could see from the way he stood his ground that he didn't hit it.

Of course some still say he had edged it. Most of them are aussies.

By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 05 Aug 19 14:39
And these people are complaining about the two current on field Umpires!
By:
wondersobright
When: 05 Aug 19 14:39

Aug 5, 2019 -- 2:38PM, wondersobright wrote:


high


boom Grin

By:
detraveller
When: 05 Aug 19 14:40
PEACE
By:
GoBallistic
When: 05 Aug 19 14:40
JoEl getting his eye in now Grin
By:
detraveller
When: 05 Aug 19 14:41
At the end of the day, Australia and diversity have won.
By:
Cardinal Scott
When: 05 Aug 19 14:41
I knew I would lose some of my green today and I have......about £300
By:
detraveller
When: 05 Aug 19 14:41

Aug 5, 2019 -- 2:40PM, GoBallistic wrote:


JoEl getting his eye in now


LaughLaughLaugh

By:
wondersobright
When: 05 Aug 19 14:41
like a fine wine getting better with age
By:
detraveller
When: 05 Aug 19 14:41
I am finishing at 1035 green. I think that's my second biggest ever. Goodbye lads. Im out of here
By:
detraveller
When: 05 Aug 19 14:42
CIAO
By:
wondersobright
When: 05 Aug 19 14:42
wd det & ciao
By:
wondersobright
When: 05 Aug 19 14:42
woakes top scorer now
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